From jregnier at gmail.com Sun Nov 1 11:24:11 2009 From: jregnier at gmail.com (jregnier at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:24:11 +0000 Subject: [eDebate] translating point scales Message-ID: <000e0cd6aaf08509c7047752877a@google.com> I'll admit that I didn't go back in the archives to read everything that has been written on this topic, so maybe my concern has already been addressed. It seems to me that as long as we keep trying to "translate" point scales, the problem of point differentiation can't really be dealt with. The Harvard Tournament's practice of establishing a strict ratio between the two scales is the worst form of this. All it does is lop off the first digit of the 30pt scale and then move the decimal over one point to the right (27.5 => 7.5 => 75). This may make us feel better (because we can say that the difference between speakers is "5 points" instead of ".5 points"), but the relative difference is the exact same. There is no difference between the two ratios, which means that there is no functional difference at all. We could just as well be using a 10pt scale (with tenths). Speaker points have become too self-referential. I think there is a tendency when deciding speaker points to jump too quickly to the number: that was a 28 quality speech, this is a 29.5 quality speech, etc. As long as the numbers themselves are the reference point, new point scales will only replicate the problem. In other words, we should never ask ourselves "What does a 27 look like in the new scale?" The problem is not the scale. The problem is the set of reference points. If we want to differentiate more between speakers, then what we need is a new rubric for interpreting those differences. And it probably needs to be more detailed than "Perfect: 30/100, Excellent: 29.5/95, Very Good: 29/90, Good: 28.5/85, Fair: 28/80, Below Average: 27.5/75, Poor: 27/75, Bad: 26.5/26." Many of us also teach oral communication as our day job. There we evaluate speeches based upon a number of categories (eg delivery, composure, organization, sound argumentation, use of evidence, etc) each of which can be further subdivided into specific evaluable factors. One way of establishing a new rubric could be to establish reference points for speeches that accomplish each of the criteria to varying degrees. Another possible rubric would be to base it on projected competitive success. For instance, 95s are speeches that we would expect to hear from debaters who win major tournaments. 90s are those we would expect to be competing in late elims. 85s are for those we think should consistently break and sometimes see in middle elims. 80s for people who we think would probably break. And so on down the line. I don't know if either of these is the right solution, but I am pretty confident that just switching the numbers up on people without giving them a new rubric for evaluation will only mean that we continue to chase our tails. Jason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091101/df136576/attachment.htm From max.o.archer at gmail.com Mon Nov 2 13:44:55 2009 From: max.o.archer at gmail.com (Max Archer) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:44:55 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Seeking to hire rounds at Wake Message-ID: <1944fe1d0911021144m582275fk3e7185ff8a86405c@mail.gmail.com> Email me back if you have any available for hire. Thanks, Max Archer Director of Debate Augustana College -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091102/93009dfa/attachment.htm From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Mon Nov 2 14:03:55 2009 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:03:55 -0800 Subject: [eDebate] Tournament invitation hosted by Augustana IL Message-ID: Name:Viking Debates Starts:1/29/2010 Ends:1/31/2010 Hosted by: Augustana IL Contact: Max Archer Address: 639 38th Street Rock Island, IL 61201 Phone: 309-794-7717 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True Divisions Offered: Varsity with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos Junior Varsity with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters Novice with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email. From max.o.archer at gmail.com Mon Nov 2 14:11:05 2009 From: max.o.archer at gmail.com (Max Archer) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:11:05 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Viking Debates at Augustana College - Invitation Message-ID: <1944fe1d0911021211o59251724hcb1c23e47cff5e14@mail.gmail.com> 2 November 2009 Dear Community, The Augustana Debate Union and the Department of Communication Studies are pleased to invite you and your colleagues to attend the 2010 Viking Debates at Augustana College. This year?s edition of the Viking Debates will be held on Friday, January 29, Saturday, January 30 and Sunday, January 31, 2010 in Rock Island, IL. The tournament will include three divisions of debate on the 2008-2009 CEDA/NDT topic, have six (6) high quality preliminary rounds in Open and clear to an appropriate number of elimination rounds in each division. All rounds will be held on the campus of Augustana College. We have every intention of making this tournament as comfortable and enjoyable as possible. Breakfast and lunch will provided on Saturday. We are committed to providing high quality competition, hospitality, awards and tournament administration. If there is any way we can better accommodate you, please to not hesitate to let us know. Please accept our invitation and join us for a grand time of competitive debates. We look forward to hosting you in Rock Island. Sincerely, Max Archer, Director of Debate Augustana College (o) 309-794-7717 (c) 281-381-7328 maxarcher at augustana.edu REGISTRATION: We will accept entries for the tournament through Tuesday, January 26 at 5:00 pm CST. Entries may be made at at www.debateresults.com. If there are any entry problems, please contact Max Archer at maxarcher at augustana.edu or by phone at (309) 794-7717. Registration will take place in Old Main 19 on Friday, January 29 from 2:30-3:30pm. DIVISIONS: We plan to host three (3) divisions of debate this year. The open division is open to any undergraduate student with eligibility. The Junior Varsity and Novice divisions are open to anyone who meets the CEDA eligibility standards for junior or novice participation. In the event that there are an insufficient number of teams entered in a division, arrangements will be made by the Tournament Director and Tab Room staff to accommodate all participants. While it is unlikely, one or more teams from Augustana might compete at the tournament to ensure an even number of teams and to prevent a bye from being assigned. However, no Augustana team will compete in elimination rounds. Awards will be given in each division to elimination round participants and an appropriate number of recognized speakers. JUDGING: Each school should provide a qualified judge to cover your judging commitments. One (1) team requires three (3) rounds of judging, two (2) teams require six (6) rounds of judging. There will be few (if any) judges available for hire at the rate of $100/uncovered team, but you should let us know well in advance if you need to hire judges. Because extra judging is limited in the Quad Cities area, we would prefer your judges rather than take your money. Each judge is obligated to cover their school?s commitment through the first elimination round, or one round beyond your team's elimination. All judges should enter their philosophy at www.debateresults.com prior to the beginning of the tournament. Each judge will assignment a win to one and only one team and a loss to one and only one team. The judge will also rank each debater 1 to 4 and rate each debater 0-30 using half points. Each judge will have a maximum of two hours and forty-five (2:45) minutes from the official start time of the debate to record a decision for that debate. A judged assigned by the tab room to a particular debate is responsible for the submission of a correctly completed ballot at the conclusion of that debate. Failure on the part of the judge to comply with these rules may result in a decision by the tab room staff and may also result in penalties being imposed upon the judge?s school. FORMAT AND RULES: We will use the 9-3-6 format, with ten minutes preparation time per team. Rounds 1-2 will be preset. The rest will be powered. Debate teams consist of two persons from the same school. Hybrid teams are acceptable, and may advance to elimination rounds. In the event of illness, a single debater may debate two (2) rounds alone but will not be allowed to advance to elimination debates. Unless the teams have met previously in the preliminary rounds, sides in elimination debates will be determined by coin flip or an agreement by both teams. The tournament will NOT break brackets in elimination rounds. TAB ROOM STAFF AND TOURNAMENT ADMINISTRATION: Justin Green of Kansas State University has agreed to direct the operations of the tabulation room. Mr. Green and the Tournament Director will resolve any tournament administration problems that arise. Current and former Augustana students will be available throughout the tournament to run ballots, give directions and generally provide any needed assistance. FEES: Entry fees are $85/team for all divisions. This includes trophies, tournament supply expenses, and hospitality. Checks should be made out to ?Augustana College.? HOUSING: We have reserved a block of rooms at the La Quinta Inn-Moline Airport. La Quinta has guaranteed a hotel block with doubles for $72.25/night and kings for $63.75/night. Reservations should be made by contacting the La Quinta Inn Central Reservation Center by phone at 1-866-527-1498. Identify yourself as part of the ?Viking Debates? party, Confirmation Number 0673GRDNNF. All final details pertaining to your stay should be coordinated directly with the Moline hotel staff, whom you may contact by phone at (309) 762-9008. The block closes on January 7, 2010 ? please make reservations soon. All participants are strongly encouraged to stay at the tournament hotel. Pairings will be released at the tournament hotel and on campus. SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND DISCRIMINATION: The tournament will follow the CEDA guidelines on sexual harassment and discrimination. 2010 Viking Debates TOURNAMENT SCHEDULE Friday, January 29 2:30-3:30PM Registration, Old Main 19 4:30-7:00PM Round One 7:00-9:00PM Round Two Saturday, January 30 8:00AM Pairings released at hotel and on campus 9:00-11:00AM Round Three 11:00-1:00PM Round Four 1:00-2:00PM Lunch 2:00-4:00PM Round Five 4:30-6:30PM Round Six Sunday, January 31 8:00AM Pairings released at hotel and on campus 9:00-11:00AM First Elimination Debate 11:30AM Awards Assembly Elimination Debates Continue -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091102/79f8a46a/attachment.htm From mphall at liberty.edu Mon Nov 2 15:41:51 2009 From: mphall at liberty.edu (Hall, Michael P. (Debate)) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:41:51 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Liberty Tournament Updates Message-ID: Are being posted at http://cedadebate.org/forum/liberty/. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091102/7fe75530/attachment.htm From chris.thiele at gmail.com Mon Nov 2 16:39:38 2009 From: chris.thiele at gmail.com (Chris Thiele) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:39:38 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Berkeley Swings: Hire Me Message-ID: <9c24dd310911021439n1e253438r2e84f56aef060a44@mail.gmail.com> Will coach, cut updates, write files, judge, babysit, drive van, etc for the Berkeley Swing. Just looking for a plane ticket and a little cash. Its two tournaments worth of work for the travel costs of one. I swing both ways (policy and critique), I judge a wide range of debates, I don't discriminate. Hire Me. PS. I know edebate sucks now, and forums/facebook/twitters will never be the same thing. But still hoping this gets out. Chris Thiele chris.thiele at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091102/52ecc667/attachment.htm From henryzliao at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 07:35:47 2009 From: henryzliao at gmail.com (Henry Liao) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:35:47 +0800 Subject: [eDebate] High-Tech Legal Startup looking to partner with teams nationwide Message-ID: <60ccc17e0911030535s1d6bcbepfd3fd11ca7e61d7@mail.gmail.com> Hi fellow debaters, I'm writing to you on behalf of Seravia, a high-tech legal startup founded by a Google Product Manager, Stanford PhD, and Goldman Sachs Executive Director. We're looking to partner with student organizations and educational groups, including debate teams, throughout the US that can help forward mail to our Chicago address (and sign for certified mail/be on standby for service of process). We're willing to compensate you for helping us by helping contribute to a debate team fund, coach fund, or tournament fund. Since we're a startup, we're taking it slow to test our operations before we grow, but if mail volume increases we'll adjust compensation accordingly. If you're interested please let me know! -- Henry Z. Liao www.seravia.com Stanford University B.A. Human Biology B.A. International Relations -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091103/27617ac4/attachment.htm From twoan318 at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 13:41:42 2009 From: twoan318 at gmail.com (Tansy Woan) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:41:42 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Thank you Harvard Message-ID: Just wanted to say thank you to Harvard for hosting an excellent tournament! I had a fantastic time this weekend, as did many others. As always, the food was phenomenal and the hard work put forth by Dallas, Stefan, Sherry, all of the Harvard Debate Team, and anyone else that I am forgetting (I apologize in advance) was greatly appreciated. You all really outdid yourselves this weekend, it was quite impressive =). Thanks again for all of your hard work and hosting one of the best tournaments of the year! Best, Tansy Woan P.S. If anyone happened to find a green folder that had "Binghamton University" written on the front, please let me know. I lost it at some point this weekend and I think I may have left it in one of the rooms in Sever Hall. It contains a lot of documents that are really important to me, many of which I need for class. Thanks so much! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091103/a6ba7543/attachment.htm From delliott at KCKCC.EDU Tue Nov 3 15:22:01 2009 From: delliott at KCKCC.EDU (Darren Elliott) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:22:01 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] FW: NFA Schools... A request for information In-Reply-To: <8CC2AD8DF6323BE-E00-14090@webmail-d080.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC2AD8DF6323BE-E00-14090@webmail-d080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: This was posted to the IE list serv. Anyone in that area able to have any influence to keep Marist? chief ________________________________ From: bounce-4526626-3411687 at list.cornell.edu [bounce-4526626-3411687 at list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of audrad75 at aol.com [audrad75 at aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:10 PM To: ie-l at cornell.edu Subject: NFA Schools... A request for information Hi All, Marist is in the middle of re-assessing forensics and they know they want to transition away from Policy (NDA/CEDA), but are wanting some data and recommendations, which is where I come in. I've been tasked to put together a series of recommendations for them in really rebuilding what they're going to do with forensics here. To that end, I'm trying to collect some anecdotal information about program participation in NFA, in particular and so if you would like to be included as an anecdote or aggregate of information :) :) :), any information you could send me on the following would be greatly appreciated. Not surprisingly, there's no deadline, but the sooner I can get it in the better (translation, they'd like it two days ago :) ), so if you get an immediate chance for feedback fantastic. I'll also be trolling the NFA meeting for feedback as well. Points of commentary: 1. Why NFA versus or in addition to AFA, NPDA, Policy, etc. etc.? 2. What range of salary is appropriate AND realistic for a DOF (not asking how much you make, though that could be a good gauge :) )? 3. Do you think NFA offers any unique benefits for competition and participation among diverse populations of students--compared to AFA, NPDA, Policy, etc. etc.? 4. How much of a difference would it make/ does it make to have an administrative assistant doing the paperwork for the team? (versus doing it yourself) 5. And the catch all--what else do you think an administration should know about supporting and re-tooling a forensics program? Thanks in advance! Audra -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091103/ada5ee3b/attachment.htm From ML.Sandoz at Vanderbilt.Edu Thu Nov 5 09:09:07 2009 From: ML.Sandoz at Vanderbilt.Edu (Sandoz, M L) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:09:07 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] [Released] Looking to hire judges at Liberty Message-ID: <1922.10.12.70.62.1257352587.squirrel@vuwebmail.vanderbilt.edu> email ml.sandoz at vanderbilt.edu ------------------------------------------------- Sandoz, M L Director of Debate Vanderbilt University Email: mary.l.sandoz at Vanderbilt.Edu From twoan318 at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 10:58:12 2009 From: twoan318 at gmail.com (Tansy Woan) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:58:12 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] wake rounds for sale Message-ID: i have 3 rounds available to sell for wake - backchannel me if you're interested tansy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Email fordhampolicydebate at gmail.com with your offers. -- Asha Cherian Faculty Adviser to Debate Director of Debate Debate Coach Gannon Speech & Debate Fordham College Lincoln Center New York, NY From blakejohnson at baudl.org Fri Nov 6 23:39:04 2009 From: blakejohnson at baudl.org (Blake Johnson) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:39:04 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] BAUDL Considers hosting Open Eligibility Tourn at NDT/CEDA Message-ID: <7c50ea8f0911062139h1b7728a8q75f85524f3755c3d@mail.gmail.com> The Bay Area Urban Debate League is considering the possibility of hosting a Pro Debate Round Robin (no eligibility required - open to current/former/never was debaters) to benefit the UDL during the CEDA/NDT week in Berkeley. I am writing here to gather feedback on this issue. If you would be interested in participating in such a competition, please backchannel me. While this is an idea that excites me personally, our decision to move forward with it will be dependent on the amount of enthusiasm that is expressed. Here's the idea: We'll accept ten teams who make a minimum donation to the BAUDL (probably somewhere in the range of $200) to participate in a round robin which will take place on the off day between NDT and CEDA. Each team will also be required to bring one judge. Teams will be divided into two wheels of five. Each team will debate each of the others in its wheel and each team will receive one bye. The two teams who win their wheels will debate in a final round which will take place during an awards ceremony and banquet, to which we will invite all comers and at which we will host a cash bar. I cannot emphasize this enough: *if you think you might be interested in participating in the open-eligibility tournament, please backchannel me expressing such. *We will be making a decision in the next month or so to move forward with or abandon this idea. The enthusiasm that is expressed by this community will be the most influential factor in making this decision. Thanks for your attention. Please forward this email to anyone who it might interest. -- Blake Johnson Executive Director Bay Area Urban Debate League 2 Embarcadero Center, 28th Floor San Francisco, California www.baudl.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091107/d0c7e61b/attachment.htm From blakejohnson at urbandebate.org Fri Nov 6 23:40:31 2009 From: blakejohnson at urbandebate.org (Blake Johnson) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:40:31 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Fwd: BAUDL Considers hosting Open Eligibility Tourn at NDT/CEDA In-Reply-To: <7c50ea8f0911062139h1b7728a8q75f85524f3755c3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c50ea8f0911062139h1b7728a8q75f85524f3755c3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7c50ea8f0911062140t464fd391xeed4784bc3ed5074@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Blake Johnson Date: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 9:39 PM Subject: BAUDL Considers hosting Open Eligibility Tourn at NDT/CEDA To: edebate at www.ndtceda.com Cc: thusspakeblake at gmail.com The Bay Area Urban Debate League is considering the possibility of hosting a Pro Debate Round Robin (no eligibility required - open to current/former/never was debaters) to benefit the UDL during the CEDA/NDT week in Berkeley. I am writing here to gather feedback on this issue. If you would be interested in participating in such a competition, please backchannel me. While this is an idea that excites me personally, our decision to move forward with it will be dependent on the amount of enthusiasm that is expressed. Here's the idea: We'll accept ten teams who make a minimum donation to the BAUDL (probably somewhere in the range of $200) to participate in a round robin which will take place on the off day between NDT and CEDA. Each team will also be required to bring one judge. Teams will be divided into two wheels of five. Each team will debate each of the others in its wheel and each team will receive one bye. The two teams who win their wheels will debate in a final round which will take place during an awards ceremony and banquet, to which we will invite all comers and at which we will host a cash bar. I cannot emphasize this enough: *if you think you might be interested in participating in the open-eligibility tournament, please backchannel me expressing such. *We will be making a decision in the next month or so to move forward with or abandon this idea. The enthusiasm that is expressed by this community will be the most influential factor in making this decision. Thanks for your attention. Please forward this email to anyone who it might interest. -- Blake Johnson Executive Director Bay Area Urban Debate League 2 Embarcadero Center, 28th Floor San Francisco, California www.baudl.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091107/3ac8fbe4/attachment.htm From gregachten at berkeley.edu Sat Nov 7 00:18:12 2009 From: gregachten at berkeley.edu (gregachten at berkeley.edu) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:18:12 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Wake Judging Message-ID: Cal is looking to hire rounds at Wake Forest. We pay in cash at the tournament. Let me know if you are interested, Greg From alfred.snider at uvm.edu Sun Nov 8 02:59:28 2009 From: alfred.snider at uvm.edu (Alfred C Snider) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:59:28 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Unger & Company 1992 videos now online Message-ID: <4AF68850.2050409@uvm.edu> This is a discussion program that was made in 1992 featuring some of the most successful coaches of American policy debate. I have processed three programs from the third series. The panelists are: James J. Unger, American University (chair) William Southworth, University of Redlands Joel Rollins, University of Texas Dallas Perkins, Harvard University Jeff Parcher, Georgetown University Part One - Evidence, Topicality, Judging, Impact analysis. http://debatevideoblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/discussion-policy-debate-unger-and.html Part Two - inherency, structure, generics, counterplans and real world issues. http://debatevideoblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/discussion-policy-debate-unger-company.html Part Three - Presentation, Intrinsicness, Institutes and Direction http://debatevideoblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/discussion-policy-debate-unger-and_08.html James J. Unger has now passed away. You can see his tribute webpage at: http://jimunger.org/index.html Thanks to the Lynde Foundation and to the National Forensic League for these videos. Debate videos are regularly posted at http://debatevideoblog.blogspot.com/ Download from the Debate Video archive at - in chronological order, newest first http://www.uvm.edu/~debate/watch/?C=M;O=D For more debate information, go to http://debate.uvm.edu Video processed by Alfred Snider, University of Vermont -- Alfred C. Snider aka Tuna Edwin Lawrence Professor of Forensics University of Vermont Huber House, 475 Main Street, UVM, Burlington, VT 05405 USA Lawrence Debate Union http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/LDU/ Global Debate Blog http://globaldebateblog.blogspot.com Debate Central http://debate.uvm.edu 802-656-0097 office telephone 802-656-4275 office fax From sheldonkreger at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 14:06:08 2009 From: sheldonkreger at gmail.com (Sheldon Kreger) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:06:08 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] List of Debate Resources Message-ID: <5511512e0911081205v45780dbdrd58531909a9b7ad9@mail.gmail.com> It appears that eDebate is being phased out. As such, I would appreciate any information on online debate resources for all of us to stay up to date in debate community ongoings. Thank you, -sheldon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091108/7b08dfbf/attachment.htm From antonucci23 at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 14:28:36 2009 From: antonucci23 at gmail.com (Michael Antonucci) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:28:36 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] edebate's estate Message-ID: <4a71966c0911081228s21bed9f0k1a2699f4eafd5772@mail.gmail.com> Let me echo Scott's thanks to Phil. I think, in both this and other projects, you've advanced the community's interest tirelessly. I think you should do precisely what you want to do. If you feel that maintaining the listserv is rewarding, you should do that. If you feel that it's a pain, you should pull the plug - or let it fall into disrepair. It isn't doing any harm, but the effort involved in making it fast again might be prohibitive. I have one small concern. What about the archives? It seems that measures should be taken for executing e-debate's estate. Will they be maintained at the current location? Is that costing you? I'm sure that hosting is available at any number of places. -- Michael Antonucci Debate Coach Georgetown University Mobile: 617-838-3345 Office: 202-687-4079 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091108/ab9ad555/attachment.htm From Roy.Eno at utsa.edu Tue Nov 10 08:01:30 2009 From: Roy.Eno at utsa.edu (Roy Eno) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:01:30 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] eDebate Digest, Vol 50, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7CE039ACB3DF9645B48718D2FDB21DCA01185625@opal1604.UTSARR.NET> Before "pulling the plug" on edebate, if that indeed happens, how about transferring archives? Perhaps this has already been planned and I have missed the thread--if so, disregard. Either way, Phil, thanks for a pioneering platform for creating community and process memory, not to mention a massive amount of work! Skip Eno UTSA -----Original Message----- From: edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com [mailto:edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com] On Behalf Of edebate-request at www.ndtceda.com Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 12:00 PM To: edebate at www.ndtceda.com Subject: eDebate Digest, Vol 50, Issue 7 Send eDebate mailing list submissions to edebate at www.ndtceda.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to edebate-request at www.ndtceda.com You can reach the person managing the list at edebate-owner at www.ndtceda.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of eDebate digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Phil, Shut Down edebate--its OK (scottelliott at grandecom.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:09:24 -0500 From: scottelliott at grandecom.net Subject: [eDebate] Phil, Shut Down edebate--its OK To: edebate at ndtceda.com Cc: ceda_L at ndtceda.com Message-ID: <20091026080924.12582l85lgas3kp0 at webmail.grandecom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" I want to thank Mr. Kerpen for maintaining edebate. (He is also a real hoot to watch on the Glen Beck show.) However, it is time to shut this site down. Its ok. We really do not need it anymore. Maintaining the site is causing confusion and delaying the transition to the CEDA sponsored listserves. Based on the dearth of postings, and the delays in needed postings, it is apparent that edebate has outlived its purpose. It would save time, money and bandwidth to just get rid of it. Having had more fun than just about anyone ranting on edebate, I am a little saddened by its demise. But it is time to pull the plug on edebate. Scott Elliott ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate End of eDebate Digest, Vol 50, Issue 7 ************************************** From dave at miami.edu Tue Nov 10 10:37:18 2009 From: dave at miami.edu (Steinberg, David L) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:37:18 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Invitation to Party at NCA Message-ID: The University of Miami School of Communication Cordially invites you to a reception at the NCA Convention 2009, Thursday, November 12th, 8:00 - 10:00 p.m., Hilton Chicago, Meeting Room, Boulevard B, Second Fl David L. Steinberg Director of Debate, University of Miami P.O. Box 248127 Coral Gables, Florida 33124 305-284-5553 (office) 305-284-5216 (fax) 305-926-8498 (cell) dave at miami.edu Go Canes! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091110/9679cca5/attachment.htm From ssa2133 at columbia.edu Tue Nov 10 14:12:34 2009 From: ssa2133 at columbia.edu (Shree Awsare) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:12:34 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Cite Request--Emory Message-ID: Hey, if Emory GM (Gibson/Malsin) or someone on the team can backchannel me about 1NC cites Emory GM read against us in Round 5 of Harvard, I would be much obliged. Thanks! Shree Awsare Columbia AD -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091110/15204dd6/attachment.htm From blain at unt.edu Tue Nov 10 18:34:31 2009 From: blain at unt.edu (Lain, Brian) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:34:31 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] UNT Invite 2010 Message-ID: Dear Community: The University of North Texas Debate Forum and the Department of Communication Studies at UNT are pleased to invite you and your debate teams to attend the annual William R. DeMougeot Debates on January 5-7, 2010. The tournament this year will include three divisions of debate on the 2009-2010 CEDA/NDT topic, have quality preliminary rounds in Open, Junior, and Novice divisions, and clear to an appropriate number of elimination rounds for each division. Preliminary rounds will be held at the University of North Texas. This year our tournament hotel is the Holiday Inn, (940-383-4100) which has guaranteed us a special rate for participants in the tournament ($85.00). If you are making reservations online, please use reservation code "DEB" to get the special rate. We strongly encourage you to stay at the tournament hotel as registration, and all other extra-events will be held there. You should make reservations as soon as possible. We plan to use the 100 point "Ross K. Smith" scale for speaker points. We will clear half of the field in all divisions. As our colleagues at the University of Texas at Dallas mentioned, this tournament is held in conjunction with the "Fear and Loathing in Dallas" tournament in order to provide two opportunities for quality competition in Texas' lovely January weather. The UNT prelim debates will be held January 5th and 6th and we plan on having 7 preliminary debates. Participation in the DeMougeot debates is a prerequisite to winning the coveted "Texas Two-Step Award" given to the team with the best prelim record at the two tournaments. There is a full day off between the two Texas steps (January 8th). This year we will host a coaches'' reception, breakfast and lunch for participants, coaches, and judges on January 5th and 6th , and much, much more. We hope you will consider joining us in January. Sincerely, Brian Lain, Director of Debate Louie Petit, Assistant Director of Debate Calum Matheson, Debate Coach Lauren Sabino, Assistant Coach Jason Sykes, Assistant Coach The North Texas Debate Forum 2010 WILLIAM R. DEMOUGEOT DEBATES January 5-7, 2010 REGISTRATION: We will accept entries for the tournament through, January 1, at 5:00 pm. We have enabled Bruschke's entry system at www.debateresults.com . If there are any problems, email me at blain at unt.edu. Registration will take place at the tournament hotel on Monday night. DIVISIONS: We will have three divisions of debate at the tournament this year. Open division is open to any undergraduate student with eligibility. The Junior division and Novice divisions are open to anyone who meets the CEDA eligibility standards for junior or novice participation. JUDGING: A qualified judge must be provided to cover your judging commitments. Because we will have 7 rounds, one team requires four rounds of judging, two teams require 7 rounds of judging. There may be some judges available for hire at the rate of $100/uncovered team, but you should let us know well in advance if you need to hire judges. Judging obligations extend through the first elimination round, or one round beyond your team's elimination. FORMAT AND RULES: We will use the 9-3-6 format, with ten minutes preparation time per team in open and junior divisions. Rounds 1-2 will be preset. The rest will be powered. Debate teams consist of TWO persons from the same school. Hybrid teams are acceptable, and may advance to elimination rounds. In the event of illness a single debater may debate 2 rounds alone but may not be allowed to clear based on the tournament director's discretion. We will NOT break brackets in elimination rounds. FEES: Entry fees are $100/team for all divisions. This includes trophies, tournament supply expenses, and hospitality. Please make checks payable to "North Texas Debate." HOUSING: We have reserved a block of rooms at the Holiday Inn Hotel here in Denton. They have guaranteed us a rate of $85/night for most of the hotel's quad rooms. This hotel is close to campus and very close to many fine-dining establishments. This is where the pairings will be released, and registration will take place. Please confirm your reservation at the Holiday Inn by calling (940-383-4100). Make sure to mention University of North Texas Debate. TRANSPORTATION: We are unable to provide shuttle service between the tournament hotel and UNT during the tournament. Should you have difficulty in arranging transportation, please contact us ahead of time. 2010 William DeMougeot College Tournament Tentative TOURNAMENT SCHEDULE Tuesday, Jan 5th 7:00am Rounds 1 and 2 released at Radisson 7:30 Breakfast at the School 8:30am-10:30am- Round 1 10:30am-12:30pm-Round 2 12:30-1:30 Lunch (On your own) 2:00pm-4:00pm- Round 3 4:30pm Round 4 Pairings released 5:30pm-7:30pm Round 4 Wednesday, Jan 6th 7:00am Rounds 5 & 6 released at Radisson 7:30 Breakfast at the School 8:00am-10:00am Round 5 10:30-12:30pm Round 6 12:30-2:00 Lunch (provided) 2:00pm Round 7 Pairings released 2:30-4:30pm Round 7 (open only) 5:00pm Awards Assembly and Pairings for Doubles released 5:30pm-7:30pm Double Octafinals Thursday, Jan 7th 7:00am Elim Pairings released 8:00-10:00 Octafinals Open -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091111/fb72fc6b/attachment.htm From ralph.paone at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 19:08:03 2009 From: ralph.paone at gmail.com (Ralph Paone) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:08:03 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] 4 Rounds for sale at Wake Message-ID: <86f9bd6d0911101708j5adf5d86x3ccf4a72070005c4@mail.gmail.com> Back channel me. I'm open to hearing any offers. -Ralph -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091111/9750d1d2/attachment.htm From jtedebate at yahoo.com Wed Nov 11 16:56:45 2009 From: jtedebate at yahoo.com (J T) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:56:45 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Wake Judging for sale Message-ID: <177159.39271.qm@web110611.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I have two rounds I can cover W. James Taylor ("JT") Clinical Instructor Asst. Debate Coach Emporia State University ***Nothing in this email should be taken to represent Emporia State Debate or Emporia State University. The contents are the sole opinion of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091111/a5be033b/attachment.htm From debatekorea at hotmail.com Thu Nov 12 08:39:42 2009 From: debatekorea at hotmail.com (Jason Jarvis) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:39:42 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Jack Rogers? In-Reply-To: <4AFAD2FC.8080507@uvm.edu> References: <4AFAD2FC.8080507@uvm.edu> Message-ID: I apologize for the mass mail. I am trying to find Jack Rogers, who at one point was part of UT Tyler and published an article about judge bias in debate. I'm trying to find out about his research so if you know him and can help me get into contact with him I would SINCERELY appreciate it! cheers, Jason Jarvis _________________________________________________________________ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091112/3fe56705/attachment.htm From alfred.snider at uvm.edu Thu Nov 12 12:19:47 2009 From: alfred.snider at uvm.edu (Alfred C Snider) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:19:47 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Ithaca College Tournament January 30-31 2010 Message-ID: <4AFC51B6.60707@uvm.edu> This is a preliminary announcement. NORTHEAST OPEN DEBATE TOURNAMENT * Worlds format * JV & Novice policy format On the weekend of the NYC policy round robin in NYC, others will be getting in on the debating act in Ithaca, New York. Ithaca College will, in cooperation with Cornell University, be offering all that is not happening in NYC. The tournament will feature competition in the WUDC format with 6 prelims and an appropriate number of elimination rounds. The Chief Adjudicator will be Alfred Snider (that's me!) from the University of Vermont, while the DCA will be Sam Nelson of Cornell. THIS WOULD BE AN IDEAL TIME FOR WUDC FORMAT TEAMS FROM THE WEST COAST AND BEYOND WHO WANT TO SAMPLE EAST COAST BP TO COME AND TRY IT OUT. Ithaca College will also be offering policy debate competition at the junior varsity and novice levels. Send your varsity debaters who are not in NYC as judges! A full invitation will be coming out soon, but circle those dates on your calendar. Tuna -- Alfred C. Snider aka Tuna Edwin Lawrence Professor of Forensics University of Vermont Huber House, 475 Main Street, UVM, Burlington, VT 05405 USA Lawrence Debate Union http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/LDU/ Global Debate Blog http://globaldebateblog.blogspot.com Debate Central http://debate.uvm.edu 802-656-0097 office telephone 802-656-4275 office fax From bigpoppa9889 at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 12:10:34 2009 From: bigpoppa9889 at gmail.com (Mike Lacy) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:10:34 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Georgetown HS In-Reply-To: <5b4b224e0910312109i68db0480ve37f9563f728980b@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b4b224e0910312109i68db0480ve37f9563f728980b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1e269fd30911131010y67167ec9kbdffa89ef1a44912@mail.gmail.com> He's not wrong. Hao really did kill it. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Steve Ticker wrote: > Can I get the cites for the framework cards you read in the block today? > > Really impressed by the 1nr. Hao killed that. Impressed with > Georgetown HS especially given the year off. Still a bit slow. I think > Hao can carry this team. > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091113/33cf1dbd/attachment.htm From scottelliott at grandecom.net Mon Nov 16 09:01:28 2009 From: scottelliott at grandecom.net (scottelliott at grandecom.net) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:01:28 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Mardi Gras Tournament 2010 Invitation Message-ID: <20091116090127.19145x610xdwukw7@webmail.grandecom.net> Dear Colleagues: The University of Louisiana-Lafayette Debate Program invites you to attend the Mardi Gras Policy Debate Tournament on February 12 through 15, 2009. Our intent is to offer some Ragin? Cajun hospitality and some good competition. We have the tournament scheduled to encourage participation in Mardi Gras festivities. You may want to arrive for the tournament on February 12, 2010. We also suggest that you stay over Monday night in order to celebrate Fat Tuesday with us either in Lafayette or New Orleans. A Humane Schedule We do not believe that tournament have to be death marches to victory. When possible, tournaments should strive to be more humane toward participants; and, more importantly, to coaches. Friday February 20th will be registration. We encourage you to register early enough so that you may then attend the Friday night parade. Saturday has three rounds beginning at 9:00 a.m. We will strictly enforce start times with forfeit rules. Our goal is to have you out in time to watch the Bonaparte parade. Sunday rounds also begin at 9:00 a.m. and we hope to end before 5:00 p.m. Monday elimination rounds begin at 10:00 a.m. Nuclear Blast Get Together In keeping with last year?s ?support your local CAFO? barbecue which featured hamburgers and homemade jambalaya, we will again have a politically incorrect lunch and an off-campus coaches reception. Those who attended last year will attest that last year?s hospitality lives up to Louisiana traditions. Parades in Lafayette The schedule allows individuals time to attend the Lafayette Mardi Gras parades. The Friday (February 12 night parade begins at 6:30 p.m. The Saturday night Parade of Bonaparte begins at 6:30 p.m. Given that the parade route runs right by campus, persons attending the tournament will merely have to walk fifty yards from their last debate round on Saturday to secure a prime bead catching location. There are no parades in Lafayette on Sunday night. However, there are plenty of festivities throughout Lafayette to celebrate. Monday?s Queen of Evangeline Parade begins at 6:00 p.m. Mardi Gras really is a Louisiana official holiday and, yes, we really do get four days off from school to celebrate. (When we lived in Texas, my wife was appalled to find out that other states did not recognize this holiday; another affront to Cajun culture). We look forward to seeing you this February. Scott M. Elliott, Ph.D. J.D. Asst. Prof. and Dir. of Debate, UL-Lafayette Sme2607 at louisiana.edu Office: 337-482-6090 Cell 337-849-7487 Tournament Information: Entry Fees: $60.00 per team. $10.00 per person other than debate teams. The fees will be used to cover the cost of the barbecue, awards, coffee and king cake, and tournament administration costs. Judging Teams will only be allowed to enter if they have judging to cover them. As a new program we do not have the alumni to hire as extra judges. Please bring judges to cover your commitment. Awards Some of the old guard may remember the unique awards from the Southeastern Louisiana University Mardi Gras Tournament. We hope to provide the same type of awards, but with a Cajun flare. The Mardi Gras masks may come back. But we are also looking into some support from the Tabasco company and local artist, George Rodrigue (Blue Dog). Directions, location, airports Lafayette, Louisiana is at located at the junction of Interstate 10 and Interstate 49. The Lafayette Regional Airport is literally 10 minutes from campus and less than ten minutes from the tournament hotel. We are 45 minutes from Baton Rouge. We are two hours from the New Orleans airport. We are four hours from Houston and approximately eight hours from Dallas. Hotels Remember, it is Mardi Gras. So try to book your rooms early. Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites LAFAYETTE-SOUTH 210 KALISTE SALOOM (337) 456-6900 Hilton Lafayette 1521 West Pinhook Road, Lafayette, Louisiana, United States 70503-3158 Tel: 1-337-235-6111 Fax: 1-337-237-6313 La Quinta Inn & Suites, Lafayette 1015 West Pinhook Road Lafayette, LA 70503 Phone: 1-337-291-1088 Fax: 1-337-235-4703 Ramada Lafayette 120 E Kaliste Saloom Rd Lafayette, LA 70508 US Phone: 337-235-0858 Fax: 337-232-8022 Tournament Schedule University of Louisiana-Lafayette Mardi Gras Policy Tournament Tentative Schedule. Friday February 12, 2009 Registration. Tournament Hotel. 5:00-8:00 p.m. Lafayette Mardi Gras parade from 6:30-9:00 Pairings for Rds. 1 and 2 released at Hotel and on edebate (as soon as possible after registration. Saturday Feb. 13 9:00 a.m. King Cake, coffee. Round 1. 11:00 a.m. Round 2. Lunch break following Round 2 2:30 p.m. (or earlier) Pairings for Rd. 3 released. 3:00 p.m. Round 3. Sunday Feb. 14 8:00 a.m. Round 4 pairings released. Hotel and edebate. 9:00 a.m. King Cake, Coffee. Round 4. 11:30 a.m. Round 5 Lunch Break following Rd. 5 (Depending on the University, we will have the barbecue either for lunch after round 5; or a barbecue off campus for dinner; after round 6) 3:00 p.m. Round 6 Breaks Posted Monday Feb. 15 10:00 a.m. First Elimination Rounds 12:30 p.m. Awards 1:30 p.m. Second Elimination Rounds 4:00 p.m. Third Elimination Rounds From nicksciullo at hotmail.com Mon Nov 16 20:55:11 2009 From: nicksciullo at hotmail.com (Nick Sciullo) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:55:11 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Selling up to 6 rounds at Wake Message-ID: I'm selling up to 6 rounds at Wake. Email me if you need some rounds. I have room and travel. nicksciullo at hotmail.com Thanks, Nick J. Sciullo Navy Debate _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091117/f3cb6b68/attachment.htm From andy.edebate at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 10:11:15 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:11:15 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] [CEDA-L] FW: NFA Schools... A request for information In-Reply-To: References: <8CC2AD8DF6323BE-E00-14090@webmail-d080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <9368bc9b0911170811l1f6a9fb3k1d5b11639ef8841d@mail.gmail.com> What possible reason would anybody on this listserv have for supporting them in this move. I can understand why the nfa listserv would be intersted and any members that have dual membership might see it as part of the goal of promoting forensics but this is a list for the cross examination debate association. It seems silly to use it to help people who are explicitly in opposition to cross examination debate promote their agenda. On 11/3/09, Darren Elliott wrote: > This was posted to the IE list serv. Anyone in that area able to have any > influence to keep Marist? > > chief > > > ________________________________ > From: bounce-4526626-3411687 at list.cornell.edu > [bounce-4526626-3411687 at list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of audrad75 at aol.com > [audrad75 at aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:10 PM > To: ie-l at cornell.edu > Subject: NFA Schools... A request for information > > Hi All, > > Marist is in the middle of re-assessing forensics and they know they want to > transition away from Policy (NDA/CEDA), but are wanting some data and > recommendations, which is where I come in. I've been tasked to put together > a series of recommendations for them in really rebuilding what they're going > to do with forensics here. > > To that end, I'm trying to collect some anecdotal information about program > participation in NFA, in particular and so if you would like to be included > as an anecdote or aggregate of information :) :) :), any information you > could send me on the following would be greatly appreciated. Not > surprisingly, there's no deadline, but the sooner I can get it in the better > (translation, they'd like it two days ago :) ), so if you get an immediate > chance for feedback fantastic. I'll also be trolling the NFA meeting for > feedback as well. > > Points of commentary: > 1. Why NFA versus or in addition to AFA, NPDA, Policy, etc. etc.? > 2. What range of salary is appropriate AND realistic for a DOF (not asking > how much you make, though that could be a good gauge :) )? > 3. Do you think NFA offers any unique benefits for competition and > participation among diverse populations of students--compared to AFA, NPDA, > Policy, etc. etc.? > 4. How much of a difference would it make/ does it make to have an > administrative assistant doing the paperwork for the team? (versus doing it > yourself) > 5. And the catch all--what else do you think an administration should know > about supporting and re-tooling a forensics program? > > Thanks in advance! > Audra > -- Sent from my mobile device From andy.edebate at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 10:17:25 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:17:25 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] [CEDA-L] FW: NFA Schools... A request for information In-Reply-To: References: <8CC2AD8DF6323BE-E00-14090@webmail-d080.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <9368bc9b0911170817j1f7f53afq3090b192e6aa361a@mail.gmail.com> What possible reason would anybody on this listserv have for supporting them in this move. I can understand why the nfa listserv would be intersted and any members that have dual membership might see it as part of the goal of promoting forensics but this is a list for the cross examination debate association. It seems silly to use it to help people who are explicitly in opposition to cross examination debate promote their agenda. On 11/3/09, Darren Elliott wrote: > This was posted to the IE list serv. Anyone in that area able to have any > influence to keep Marist? > > chief > > > ________________________________ > From: bounce-4526626-3411687 at list.cornell.edu > [bounce-4526626-3411687 at list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of audrad75 at aol.com > [audrad75 at aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:10 PM > To: ie-l at cornell.edu > Subject: NFA Schools... A request for information > > Hi All, > > Marist is in the middle of re-assessing forensics and they know they want to > transition away from Policy (NDA/CEDA), but are wanting some data and > recommendations, which is where I come in. I've been tasked to put together > a series of recommendations for them in really rebuilding what they're going > to do with forensics here. > > To that end, I'm trying to collect some anecdotal information about program > participation in NFA, in particular and so if you would like to be included > as an anecdote or aggregate of information :) :) :), any information you > could send me on the following would be greatly appreciated. Not > surprisingly, there's no deadline, but the sooner I can get it in the better > (translation, they'd like it two days ago :) ), so if you get an immediate > chance for feedback fantastic. I'll also be trolling the NFA meeting for > feedback as well. > > Points of commentary: > 1. Why NFA versus or in addition to AFA, NPDA, Policy, etc. etc.? > 2. What range of salary is appropriate AND realistic for a DOF (not asking > how much you make, though that could be a good gauge :) )? > 3. Do you think NFA offers any unique benefits for competition and > participation among diverse populations of students--compared to AFA, NPDA, > Policy, etc. etc.? > 4. How much of a difference would it make/ does it make to have an > administrative assistant doing the paperwork for the team? (versus doing it > yourself) > 5. And the catch all--what else do you think an administration should know > about supporting and re-tooling a forensics program? > > Thanks in advance! > Audra > -- Sent from my mobile device From andy.edebate at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 11:13:08 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:13:08 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] [CEDA-L] FW: NFA Schools... A request for information In-Reply-To: <9368bc9b0911170817j1f7f53afq3090b192e6aa361a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8CC2AD8DF6323BE-E00-14090@webmail-d080.sysops.aol.com> <9368bc9b0911170817j1f7f53afq3090b192e6aa361a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9368bc9b0911170913wa29e49r8dd7ce04df267762@mail.gmail.com> My bad. Too quick of a response. I got overwhelmed by the second part of it. And missed the first part On 11/17/09, Andy Ellis wrote: > What possible reason would anybody on this listserv have for > supporting them in this move. I can understand why the nfa listserv > would be intersted and any members that have dual membership might see > it as part of the goal of promoting forensics but this is a list for > the cross examination debate association. It seems silly to use it to > help people who are explicitly in opposition to cross examination > debate promote their agenda. > > On 11/3/09, Darren Elliott wrote: >> This was posted to the IE list serv. Anyone in that area able to have >> any >> influence to keep Marist? >> >> chief >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: bounce-4526626-3411687 at list.cornell.edu >> [bounce-4526626-3411687 at list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of audrad75 at aol.com >> [audrad75 at aol.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:10 PM >> To: ie-l at cornell.edu >> Subject: NFA Schools... A request for information >> >> Hi All, >> >> Marist is in the middle of re-assessing forensics and they know they want >> to >> transition away from Policy (NDA/CEDA), but are wanting some data and >> recommendations, which is where I come in. I've been tasked to put >> together >> a series of recommendations for them in really rebuilding what they're >> going >> to do with forensics here. >> >> To that end, I'm trying to collect some anecdotal information about >> program >> participation in NFA, in particular and so if you would like to be >> included >> as an anecdote or aggregate of information :) :) :), any information you >> could send me on the following would be greatly appreciated. Not >> surprisingly, there's no deadline, but the sooner I can get it in the >> better >> (translation, they'd like it two days ago :) ), so if you get an >> immediate >> chance for feedback fantastic. I'll also be trolling the NFA meeting for >> feedback as well. >> >> Points of commentary: >> 1. Why NFA versus or in addition to AFA, NPDA, Policy, etc. etc.? >> 2. What range of salary is appropriate AND realistic for a DOF (not >> asking >> how much you make, though that could be a good gauge :) )? >> 3. Do you think NFA offers any unique benefits for competition and >> participation among diverse populations of students--compared to AFA, >> NPDA, >> Policy, etc. etc.? >> 4. How much of a difference would it make/ does it make to have an >> administrative assistant doing the paperwork for the team? (versus doing >> it >> yourself) >> 5. And the catch all--what else do you think an administration should >> know >> about supporting and re-tooling a forensics program? >> >> Thanks in advance! >> Audra >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > -- Sent from my mobile device From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Tue Nov 17 11:18:20 2009 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:18:20 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Tournament invitation hosted by Texas Message-ID: Name:Texas Starts:2/6/2010 Ends:2/8/2010 Hosted by: Texas Contact: Joel Rollins Address: One University Station, A1105 Austin, TX 78712 Phone: 512-565-4532 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): False Divisions Offered: Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email. From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Tue Nov 17 19:54:12 2009 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:54:12 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Tournament invitation hosted by Texas Dallas Message-ID: <9DF79D61CD7E4FAD8626A9127F7DB429@AD.FULLERTON.EDU> Name:Fear and Loathing in Dallas (UTD) Starts:1/9/2010 Ends:1/11/2010 Hosted by: Texas Dallas Contact: Christopher Burk Address: Phone: 972-536-3995 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True Divisions Offered: Open with 7 prelims, expected to clear to: Doubles Junior Varsity with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos Novice with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Semis Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email. From crb012000 at utdallas.edu Tue Nov 17 19:58:46 2009 From: crb012000 at utdallas.edu (Burk, Christopher R) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:58:46 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] UT Dallas Tournament Invitation - Fear and Loathing in Dallas 2010 Message-ID: November 17, 2009 Seventh Annual Fear and Loathing in Dallas Invitation to the University of Texas at Dallas Intercollegiate Debate Tournament Dear Colleagues, We present the following conditional tournament. The University of Texas at Dallas Debate Team invites you to join us January 9-11, 2010 for the seventh annual Fear and Loathing in Dallas Intercollegiate Debate Tournament. Yes, somehow we still get to do this. Our tournament will be the second half of the Texas Two Step. The University of North Texas will host the first half. Teams attending both tournaments will have Friday, January 8th as a day off to relocate, rest, and research. We will offer debates in three divisions (open, junior varsity, and novice). We expect all three divisions to be large enough to remain distinct this season. However, we will collapse the Novice division into the Junior Varsity division if necessary. Please complete all entries by 12:00 noon on Wednesday, January 6, 2010. We will submit final orders for all food purchases that afternoon so correct information by the entry deadline is necessary. We will also need to close entries into order to begin the judge preference process. We definitely need final entries for both TEAMS and JUDGES by noon of January 6. Please use the famous Bruschke system for entering the teams and the judges. You can find that system here: http://commweb.fullerton.edu/jbruschke/web/Index.aspx ENTRY LIMITS: UT Dallas is experiencing a shortage of suitable classrooms. Therefore the UT Dallas Debate Team must unfortunately impose an entry limit of ninety (100) total teams at this time. There is a good chance that we might be able to secure access to a few more rooms but we cannot guarantee it at this moment. So we must impose an entry cap. Entries will be first come, first serve regardless of division until we reach our cap. So please enter as soon as possible. If we do secure access to more rooms and raise the cap, we will send emails to inform everyone of the change. FORMAT: There will be seven preliminary debates in the Open division with the tab room randomly assigning the sides to each team in round seven. The Junior Varsity and Novice divisions will have six preliminary debates. The schedule has changed slightly so be sure to examine the tournament schedule located at the end of this document. The tournament will use the 100 point RKS scale for speaker points. Judges should refrain from giving the same points to speakers in the same round. The teams advancing to the elimination rounds will be determined by the following criteria. The top half of the Open teams will clear. Each team must have a winning record (4 or more wins) in order to advance, even if that requirement results in a total that is slightly less than half of all Open teams. The maximum number of Open teams advancing will be 32. We will also hold an appropriate number of elimination rounds in Junior Varsity and Novice divisions. Seeding for elimination rounds will be determined using win-loss record, then opposition wins, then adjusted speaker points, total speaker points, double adjusted speaker points, adjusted ranks, total ranks, and then other criteria if necessary. ALTERNATE USE TIME: The regular time limits of 9 minutes per constructive speech and 6 minutes per rebuttal will be observed for speech times. Once again the tournament will use ?alternate use? prep time rules for all debates ? each team will have sixteen (16) minutes total to use for cross-examination and/or preparation. Cross-examination periods are allowed only after constructive speeches. Coaches should inform their debaters about the proper use of alternate use prep time prior to the tournament. TAB ROOM and TOURNAMENT ADMINISTRATION: Dr. Jeff Jarman of Wichita State University has agreed to join us in Dallas to direct the operations of the tabulation room. Justin Green of Kansas State University will also assist in the tab room. Dr. Jarman, Mr. Green and the UT Dallas coaching staff will resolve any tournament administration problems that arise. Current and former UT Dallas students will be available throughout the tournament to run ballots, give directions and, and generally provide any needed assistance. ENTRY FEES: Freedom isn?t free and neither is the ?Fear and Loathing in Dallas? debate tournament. The entry fees will be $150 per covered team, regardless of division. One team requires four (4) rounds of judging. Two teams require seven (7) rounds of judging. Uncovered teams will be assessed an additional fee of $40 per uncovered round. Please send your qualified judges instead of just paying the extra fee if possible. The UT Dallas debate team does not even come close to making a profit on this tournament. In fact, the hosting of the tournament generates a financial loss and some stern questions from our Dean. We believe that our tournament will provide both high quality hospitality and strong competition relative to total costs of attendance. We also politely request that all teams competing at the tournament update their affirmative and negative information on the open case list system by 12 noon on Friday, January 8, 2010. Cash is preferred. However you can make your checks payable to ?The University of Texas at Dallas.? Our University?s Federal Tax ID number is 75-1305566 if your institution requires such information. Our mailing address: UT Dallas Debate Team Department of Undergraduate Education P.O. Box 830688, GC 14 Richardson, Texas 75083-0688 We once again will go to great lengths to make special accommodations for teams with limited financial resources ? please contact us in advance for details. We attempt to ensure that entry fees will not exclude a school from participating in our Fear and Loathing tournament. We want to share our Fear and Loathing with everyone. HOSPITALITY: We take this extremely seriously. We are committed to providing a tournament experience that you will find both competitive and entertaining. We hope to earn a spot on your annual travel schedule. Those who have attended in the past have almost always returned with enthusiasm There will be a reception for all coaches during registration during the evening of the Friday, January 9 at the Crowne Plaza Suites. There will also be a large tournament-wide survivors? reception for all participants during the evening of Monday, January 11. We invite all debaters, coaches, and judges to stay for the reception. Those who have remained in Dallas for the Monday night reception have not been disappointed. Lunches will be provided to all tournament participants on Saturday, January 9 and Sunday, January 10. Breakfast will also be provided at the campus on those days. Please indicate any special dietary needs when entering the tournament. We will also provide some light snacks on Sunday evening prior to first elimination round. The vast majority of last year's participants found the provided food and beverages to be high quality. Also, the city of Dallas has many excellent options for dining and entertainment. A packet full of suggestions will be provided to all teams at registration. Scott and Chris are also available to answer your questions ? we know where to go in Big D. JUDGING: One pillar of a successful tournament is quality judging so please bring your least sketchy judges. Each team seeking to enter should provide a qualified judge who will be available to judge at least four (4) preliminary rounds and who will comply with tournament rules. A judge covering the requirements for two teams should prepare to judge seven (7) preliminary debates. A qualified judge is a currently active coach, graduate student, or former college debater. EVERY judge will be committed through the octafinal debates in the Open division. We will have very, very few hired judges available this year. Please inform the UT Dallas staff at least one week in advance if your team will need to pay the fee for uncovered teams. Monies gained by such fees will go towards to the hiring of qualified judges and the procurement of ether. Judges will be assigned on the basis of mutual preference. Teams will be allowed to strike a limited number of judges. The number of strikes will depend upon the size of the judging pool, the number of many sketchy people y?all bring, and the number of sketchy people we hire. Please, please, please indicate to the tournament administration if a judge cannot judge all three divisions. Please repeat any such limitation in person at registration. Judges assigned to a debate by the tab room will be responsible for submitting a correctly completed ballot at the end of that debate. Judges should not leave the tournament unless their commitment has been fulfilled. DON?T MESS WITH TEXAS: Any judge who is unable or unwilling to comply with these criteria should not register as a judge. Failure on the part of a judge to comply with these rules may result in a decision by the tab room staff and may also result in the top team from the judge?s school being removed from further participation in the tournament. Please do not enter unknown and/or sketchy judges for all seven round then have a highly preferred judge available for only one. That ain?t cool. And it makes it much more difficult for us to get highly preferred judges in every round to all teams, including your teams. Directors should ensure that each and every judge has a judge philosophy statement posted in the Bruschke system by Tuesday, January 5, 2010. Any judge still without a judge philosophy statement by that deadline will be dropped from the tournament. The rounds originally assigned to that judge will be redistributed to other judges representing that squad. HOST HOTEL INFORMATION: We strongly encourage all tournament participants to stay at the host hotel. Tournament registration, tournament receptions, and all rounds on Monday, January 12 will occur at the hotel. Please see the ?Hotel? section below for detailed reservation information. The Crowne Plaza Suites is located just north of the Westin Park Central and the LBJ freeway. It is a quick, easy twelve-minute drive from the hotel to the UT Dallas campus. Every room in the hotel is a suite. The rooms are quite large. The block rates are $80 for each double room and $75 for each king room. This rate will include internet access at no additional charge. The hotel offers ample free parking. While these rates are a slight increase over last season?s rates, this remains an exceptional value for this facility. Those wishing to access the block rate should reserve rooms using the specific website provided http://www.cpdallas.com/ and use the code ?DEB? when making reservations. Reservations can also be made over the telephone. We strongly encourage you to use the website reservation system in order to receive updates on the hotel and your reservation. While rooms may be available at the last minute, the hotel will only guarantee the block of rooms and the tournament rate for those reservations made before Friday, December 18, 2009. We suggest that your reserve your rooms as soon as possible. Rooms might be available after that date but room availability, room rates, and room type will not be guaranteed for those reservations made after December 18. The host hotel has a very limited number of smoking rooms available. Please do not smoke in the common areas of the hotel. Please do not smoke in the non-smoking rooms. Hotel Details: Crowne Plaza Suites - Dallas Park Central 7800 Alpha Road Dallas, TX 75240 Front Desk: (972) 233-7600 http://www.cpdallas.com/ http://www.crowneplaza.com/h/d/cp/1/en/hotel/daltx Our hotel contact: Karlene Summerall Her email: karlene.summerall at ihg.com TRANSPORTATION: Dallas is easily accessible by ground or air. The tournament hotel is directly east of DFW airport and it a mere 30 minutes away. Use the ?North? exit from DFW airport toward IH-635 and proceed East on IH-635. Exit at ?Coit? Road. All major national rental agencies have operations at DFW airport. The UNT campus is roughly an hour drive from the UT Dallas campus. Teams competing at both tournaments will definitely need to change hotels. Unfortunately, we at UT Dallas will not be able to provide ground transportation and the hotel will not be able to provide anything beyond the most basic local service. Nor will UT Dallas be able to transport teams coming from the UNT tournament in Denton. Participating teams should definitely plan to provide their own transportation throughout the tournament. Major rental agencies such as Enterprise, Avis, and Hertz have offices at both airports. Those seeking to rent large vans might try Capps at http://www.cappsvanrental.com/ AUDIO and VIDEO RECORDING: All rounds (defined as the speeches of the participants) are open to registered tournament participants and may be electronically recorded for private educational use by tournament participants (registered coaches, debaters and helpers, and UT Dallas tournament staff) only. Public distribution of such recordings is expressly prohibited unless prior written consent of all people on the recording is obtained and unless prior written consent of the University of Texas at Dallas is obtained. Private sharing for educational use is permitted. TOURNAMENT RULES: If you know us, then you know we love rules and we will enforce them. 1. The tournament will follow the CEDA guidelines on sexual harassment. 2. The topic for all debates will be the 2009-2010 NDT/CEDA policy debate topic. 3. Each judge obligated to judge a round will assignment a win to one and only one team and a loss to one and only one team. The judge will also rank each debater 1 to 4 and rate each debater 0-30 using quarter points. Each judge will have a maximum of 165 minutes from the official start time of the debate to record a decision for that debate. A judged assigned by the tab room to a particular debate will be responsible for the submission of a correctly completed ballot at the conclusion of that debate. Failure on the part of the judge to comply with these rules may result in a decision by the tab room staff and may also result in the top team from the judge?s school being removed from further participation in the tournament. 4. In order to enter and compete at the tournament, debate must be eligible according to CEDA and NDT guidelines. Each competitor should be currently enrolled undergraduate student (or, since the tournament occurs over the Winter Break, every competitor should have been officially enrolled during the previous semester and/or be officially enrolled in the upcoming semester). 5. Hybrid teams will be allowed to enter the tournament and are eligible to advance to the elimination rounds. Maverick debaters will not be allowed to enter the tournament and will not be allowed to compete ? a team consists of two and only two undergraduate students. Should one member of a team or both be or unable to debate in more than two rounds, that team will receive a loss for those rounds and will become ineligible for elimination rounds and awards. 6. While it is unlikely, one or more teams from UT Dallas might compete at the tournament. However no varsity UT Dallas team will compete in elimination rounds. If any UT Dallas teams are entered in the junior varsity or novice divisions, then they will be eligible to advance. No UT Dallas coach will determine judge placement for any round involving any UT Dallas participants. 7. Debaters, coaches, judges and all other tournament guests should not damage or remove any UT Dallas property. No smoking is allowing in any UT Dallas building. No food or drinks are allowed in any classroom. Please, please, please follow these rules. Please, please, please help us to keep the rooms and hallways clean. The room czars are reluctant to give us rooms even when they are in a good mood. And the debate tournament will be the only large event occurring on the campus in early January so the room inspectors will assume that someone involved with the debate community caused the damage. Many UT Dallas buildings are very new and we will not be allowed to use them in the future if damage occurs during the tournament. 8. Brackets will NOT be broken in elimination rounds. Teams from the same school that face each other in elimination rounds may either choose to declare a winning team or may choose to debate the round. 9. Unless the teams have met previously in the preliminary rounds, sides in elimination rounds will be determined by coin flip or an agreement by both teams. Please flip the coin and announce sides as soon as possible. We all want to expedite the rounds on Monday. 10. The eligibility rules for participation in the junior varsity and novice divisions will follow the CEDA standards. AWARDS: They will be cool and you will enjoy them. Trust us, we?re experts. We will once again present the traveling ?Texas Two Step? award to the Open Division team that gains the most preliminary wins at the two tournaments. R.J. Giglio and Nick Watts of the University of Oklahoma won the award last season with 12 total wins. Someone please remind Jackie to bring ?The Boots? to us in January. INFORMATION: We hope to make this seventh annual ?Fear and Loathing in Dallas? Debate Tournament reach the high standard established by our previous tournaments. Please contact Chris Burk or Scott Herndon if you have any questions, concerns, or suggestions regarding the tournament. We look forward to once again welcoming the college debate community to Dallas. Your lovely hosts, THE UT DALLAS DEBATE TEAM www.utdallas.edu/debate/ Christopher Burk Director of Debate crb01200 at utdallas.edu Scott Herndon Asssociate Director of Debate sxh021200 at utdallas.edu Justin Kirk Assistant Coach justinwkirk at gmail.com Todd Jordan Assistant Coach and Graduate Student oldcrowtodd at gmail.com Trevor Andreas Assistant Coach tandreas at gmail.com Kuntal Cholera Assistant Coach kuntal_cholera at hotmail.com UT DALLAS 2010 TOURNAMENT SCHEDULE: Friday, January 8 (Crowne Plaza Suites) 6:00 PM ? Tournament Registration and Coaches Reception 9:00 PM ? Tournament Registration Ends 10:00 PM ? Pairings for Rounds 1 and 2 release at hotel and on-line Saturday, January 9 (UT Dallas campus) 7:30 AM ? Breakfast available 8:30 AM ? Round One (pre-set) start time (all rounds on campus) 11:00 AM ? Round Two (pre-set) start time 1:30 PM ? Lunch provided at campus 2:30 PM ? Round Three (high-high) start time 5:30 PM ? Round Four (high-low) start time Sunday, January 10 (UT Dallas campus) 7:00 AM ? Pairings for Round Five released. Breakfast and coffee provided at coffee 8:00 AM ? Round Five (high-high) start time 11:00 AM ? Round Six (high-low) start time. Pairings based on results of all five rounds. 12:45 PM ? Lunch Provided 1:45 PM ? Pairings Released 2:15 PM ? Round Seven in Open (high-low, sides assigned by computer) start time 2:15 PM ? First elimination round in Junior Varsity and Novice divisions start time 4:45 PM ? Snacks provided 5:15 PM ? Pairings for Open Division Doubles Released (no round for JV & Novice) 6:00 PM ? Open Division Double Octafinal Rounds start time (no round for JV & Novice) Monday, January 11 (all events occur at the Crowne Plaza Suites) 8:30 AM ? Pairings Released for Open Division Octafinals 8:30 AM ? Pairings Released for second novice & JV elimination rounds 9:30 AM ? Open Octafinal Rounds begin 9:30 AM ? Second Elimination Rounds in Novice & JV divisions begin High Noon ? Awards Assembly Afternoon ? Elimination rounds continue Evening ? Tournament reception From bmoreboi325 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 17 20:15:31 2009 From: bmoreboi325 at yahoo.com (Deven) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:15:31 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] LOOKING TO GET HIRED AT WAKE 3 ROUNDS Message-ID: <287234.93963.qm@web65405.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Hey this is Deven and Orion from fullerton and we both have 3 rounds each to be hired for ? Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kep -------- John Kephart III, Ph.D. Assistant Professor, Director of Forensics California State University, Northridge. csundebate at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091118/52754ef6/attachment.htm From jane.munksgaard at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 17:19:39 2009 From: jane.munksgaard at gmail.com (Jane Munksgaard) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:19:39 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Need Last Minute Judge for the Glenbrooks Message-ID: Hi! New Trier is seeking a 1/2 time judge for novice policy this weekend. If you are in the area and available let me know. Thanks, Jane -- Jane Munksgaard New Trier Township High School -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091119/769af0e2/attachment.htm From debatekorea at hotmail.com Tue Nov 24 19:52:42 2009 From: debatekorea at hotmail.com (Jason Jarvis) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:52:42 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Edebate solution: Yahoogroups! In-Reply-To: <4a71966c0911081228s21bed9f0k1a2699f4eafd5772@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a71966c0911081228s21bed9f0k1a2699f4eafd5772@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Honestly, I have not understood any of the "problems" with edebate. Its really easy to set up a listserv on Yahoo or Google. Messages are automatically archived and the main job of a moderator is eliminating bouncing addresses which takes almost no time. I'm not sure what Phil is or is not doing, but even a luddite like me can set up a Yahoogroup. Personally, I think the message boards are not so useful b/c they are more time consuming. Its much easier (imho) to delete irrelevant messages. What is all the drama about? cheers, Jason Jarvis PHD Candidate Dept. of Communication Georgia State University Atlanta, GA Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:28:34 -0500 From: antonucci23 at gmail.com To: edebate at ndtceda.com Subject: [eDebate] edebate's estate Let me echo Scott's thanks to Phil. I think, in both this and other projects, you've advanced the community's interest tirelessly. I think you should do precisely what you want to do. If you feel that maintaining the listserv is rewarding, you should do that. If you feel that it's a pain, you should pull the plug - or let it fall into disrepair. It isn't doing any harm, but the effort involved in making it fast again might be prohibitive. I have one small concern. What about the archives? It seems that measures should be taken for executing e-debate's estate. Will they be maintained at the current location? Is that costing you? 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20091125/0f99fdf1/attachment.html From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Mon Nov 30 10:28:26 2009 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:28:26 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Tournament invitation hosted by Texas Message-ID: <48EBA558366E4C83B5AA5C12CE1ADB18@AD.FULLERTON.EDU> Name:Texas Starts:2/6/2010 Ends:2/8/2010 Hosted by: Texas Contact: Joel Rollins Address: One University Station, A1105 Austin, TX 78712 Phone: 512-565-4532 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): False Divisions Offered: Open with 8 prelims, expected to clear to: Doubles Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email.