From hansonjb at whitman.edu Sun Mar 1 00:23:40 2009 From: hansonjb at whitman.edu (Jim Hanson) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:23:40 -0800 Subject: [eDebate] Fw: nw ceda champs after rd 4 Message-ID: <391EF973530E4050B7420E7763BF6D6A@whitman.edu> jim :) hansonjb at whitman.edu From: Jim Hanson Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:08 PM To: Jim Hanson Subject: nw ceda champs after rd 4 jim :) hansonjb at whitman.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090228/86a80f75/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mac: Brennan, Greene, Palczewski Conc MT (A) v. Minn CH: Johnson, Murillo, Weber Conc MR (A) v. Minn NP: Faltesek, Hingstman, Klemz UNI (no debate) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090301/640e587c/attachment.htm From oldstrega at hotmail.com Sun Mar 1 14:45:41 2009 From: oldstrega at hotmail.com (Old Strega) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:45:41 -0000 Subject: [eDebate] Sanchez: article 2 is too difficult 4 obamatrons Message-ID: Sanchez doesn?t need an argument. He just needs to peck away with one distraction after another. His latest distractions are answered below and they?re plain awful. I can?t wait to see his next attempt to bypass article 2 and today?s supreme court ruling that requires obama to respond to berg?s writ a certiori by december 1. Sanchez is absolutely right. There is no possibility of a constitutional crisis if obama can?t produce a vault copy of his hawaiian birth certificate. 1. mccain and obama were both born overseas. Grant. The difference mccain is still a natural born citizen. His father was stationed overseas. That?s why mccain has actually submitted his birth certificate to the media and third parties. That?s why mccain doesn?t have to forge a birth certificate in arizona and his family is not mixing up which phoenix hospital he was born in. how the fuck dumb are you? 2) you?re misframing the question and still do not understand article 2. It?s not about where you?re born. It?s about whether or not you are a naturalized or natural born citizen. Like I said before Mccain is %100 natural born. His father was deployed on the panama base. If obama was born in kenya, then he is not natural born because his mother was only 18 years of age. This is why he forged the hawaiian birth certificate. Duh. If he and mccain?s foreign birth were equivalents then there would be 2 cases in front of the supreme court. 1 questioning obama like the berg case and 1 questioning mccain like the case that does not exist. And if they were equivalents, then obama like mccain would have submitted an actual copy of his vault birth certificate to the media and not just behind closed doors to fact check. 3) last night, ron paul did publicly join the new york civil liberties union and other citizens concerned about obama?s abrogation of the constitution. Ron paul spent an hour last night being interviewed about the coming constitutional crisis. http://comments.obamacrimes.com/ ?Congressman Ron Paul (TX) will be a guest on Lan Lamphere's show tonight, Monday November 3rd at 10PM EST to discuss Berg v. Obama and the state of our nation.? You were spinning yarns last night when you said: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/2008-November/076745.html this is what YOU - not the constitution, not ron paul - are choosing to talk about this evening,? Ron Paul and I were both talking about the constitutional crisis over article 2. Why do you make up shit like that? Distraction. 4) the supreme court ruled today that obama has to respond to berg writ a certiori by december 1. You?re absolulety right not the constitution but the supreme court is talking about what ron paul and I were talking about last night. The stay of the election was denied but the defendants, obama and the DNC, are required by justice souter and the supreme court to respond to the writ by december 1. If you understood article 2, then you would understand the reason why the supreme court is requiring obama to respond and did not completely dismiss the case. The mainstream media has trivialized justice souter?s response perpetuating the hawaiian birth certificate fraud but the ruling still exists. http://www.oilforimmigration.org/ Justice Souter?s Clerk has informed Mr. Berg that Mr. Berg?s application for an injunction to stay the November 4th election has been denied. (The U. S. Supreme Court Docket is below.) The defendants are required to respond to the Writ of Certiorari by December first, after which Mr. Berg will have an opportunity to respond. 5) natural born citizenship was in the founding of the nation and still is a check against enemy infiltration. Article 2 is a check against a foreign nation hostile to the united states from installing a manchurian candidate to subvert the constitutional system. In the early days, the concern was obviously the british. It would have been absolutely stupid not to have article 2 in place to prevent a british born, naturalized US citizen from subverting the intents and purposes of the american revolution through allegiance to the british crown. Article 2 was part of the genius of the american innovation in the political system. Today, article 2 is still relevant as a check against enemy subversion of the constitution. This is not to deny internal threats to the constitution like dick cheney or to assume that all foreigners/naturalized citizens are threats to the constitution. Article 2 is one of many checks in place and by no means on its own guarantees the preservation of the constitution. You?re drifting towards no requirements for the eligibility of the presidency. Age restrictions are ageist. Anyone, anywhere, anytime can be president. Why not remove the elections that are required by the constitution like in china and iran? 6) you said: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/2008-November/076745.html ?after all, jack isn't writing 'open letters' to john mccain, now is he? ? Yo dipshit, king of distractions, I didn?t write the ?open letter to barack obama?. I posted the open letter of the NEW YORK CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION. Yeah, they were real pro-bush and now they?re real pro-mccain. Why do make up shit in your argument? The only thing I can think of is that you?re distracting from your ignorance of article 2. At least admit it, when you?re way out of it. When did I ever post an open letter of my own to barack obama? And what do you have against the new york civil liberties union? You won?t answer that bad distraction you just created. You?re going to make up 7 new distractions to stay off point. 7) your obama protest rant sucks. You can?t defend FISA. Obama spun warrantless wiretapping as requiring ?judicial review?. That was a load of shit but it allows obama to spy on the opposition and more easily thwart their attempts at resistance. Quit dropping the FISA vote. And not just the vote, mr. King of distraction, but the actual bogus defense. HOW IS FISA GOING TO ENABLE RESISTANCE UNDER OBAMA AND MAKE HIM MORE VULNERABLE TO PROTEST ACTIVISM? WHY IS SANCHEZ SO NA?VE TO THINK THAT OBAMA WON?T USE WARRANTLESS WIRETAPPING TO SPY ON PROTESTORS? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090301/9838858a/attachment.htm From cramhelwich at gmail.com Sun Mar 1 14:57:41 2009 From: cramhelwich at gmail.com (David Cram Helwich) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:57:41 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Official D4 Results Message-ID: <52ace93c0903011257l365172e2k70e51a3918e1e3b8@mail.gmail.com> Three qualifiers. Congratulations to Iowa for defending their district title. 1. 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Harvard Eli Jacobs and Alex Parkinson (11-1/35) 2. Dartmouth Trevor Chenoweth and Rob Rein (8-4/46) 3. Binghamton Ben Crossan and Tansy Woan (8-4/40) 4. Rochester Ryan Bach and Rona Yang (8-4/36) 5. Boston College Matt Maerowitz and Gabe Stacy (7-5/41) 6. Cornell Dan Himmelstein and John Karin (7-5/36) 7. CUNY Cynthia Caballero and Dima Povazhuk (7-5/31) (not attending the NDT) 8. Binghamton Pete Groh and Bill Sebelle (7-5/26) The first alternate from District 8 is Marist Chris Kozak and Margeaux Lippman. The second alternate is The New School Josh Imes and Hong Mei Pang. I want to extend my personal thanks to Victoria Keenan and all of her staff and students, who did an outstanding job of hosting the tournament. Everybody should be so lucky as to have districts in NYC in the days of cheap hotel rooms. dp From hansonjb at whitman.edu Sun Mar 1 18:00:27 2009 From: hansonjb at whitman.edu (Jim Hanson) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:00:27 -0800 Subject: [eDebate] nw ceda champs after round 6 Message-ID: <687967CB692C419094381EA9B3F7B30C@whitman.edu> quarters Whitman CohnStraus Gonzaga MoczulskiSolo Gonzaga BormannCorrigan Gonzaga KannellopoSydnor Michigan LiuZagorin Whitman ColeZendeh Whitman BarnettJanyk Whitman GriffinRiley jim :) hansonjb at whitman.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090301/2e2ac1ec/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Missouri State FW, 5-3 (13) > 8. UTSA MT, 5-3 (13) > 9. Run off winner > 10. Run off winner > > Run off rounds. All particapants were 4-4, 13 ballots. > > Kansas KQ v KSU MZ. Winner qualifies. > > Texas CM v North Texas MR. Winner debates against UCO CH, perhaps at 1am. > Winner of UCO CH vs Texas/North Texas qualifies. > > Seeding and runoff order based on ballot count in the opt-in round, then > prelim speaker points. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090301/6b5459ee/attachment.htm From hansonjb at whitman.edu Mon Mar 2 00:25:50 2009 From: hansonjb at whitman.edu (Jim Hanson) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:25:50 -0800 Subject: [eDebate] nw ceda champs after semis Message-ID: finals is whitman cs versus gonzaga bc. judges: symonds whitmore odekirk jim :) hansonjb at whitman.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The D3 Qualifying tournament proves why you don't know until you debate, and we had some debates. Peace Massey PS - This is runoff round #2 to finalize our bids. From ermocito at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 02:55:02 2009 From: ermocito at gmail.com (Eric Morris) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:55:02 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Fwd: D-3 "Finally" Results In-Reply-To: <6bd35ee10903020054x6a4fab6fgee1bafecb44a23f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <6bd35ee10903020054x6a4fab6fgee1bafecb44a23f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6bd35ee10903020055q2369b568p22a6da02ac013d4d@mail.gmail.com> 1. Trinity BE, 8-0 (20) 2. UTD BR, 7-1 (18) 3. UCO SS, 6-2 (17) 4. WSU BR, 6-2 (17) 5. Baylor CM, 5-2 (17) 6. Trinity BH, 5-3 (17) 7. Missouri State FW, 5-3 (13) 8. UTSA MT, 5-3 (13) 9. UCO CH, 4-4 (13). 3-0 in final runoff, higher points 10. Kansas KQ, 4-4 (13), 3-0 in runoff, lower points Alternates 1. Kansas State MZ (4-4, 13), lost "semis" runoff to KU, higher points 2. Texas CM (4-4, 13) lost "semis" runoff to UCO, lower points 3. North Texas MR (4-4, 13) lost "partial quarters" runoff to Texas. Congratulations to all teams on a great, if long and grueling competition. The panel of Malgor, Vega, and Todd Jordan rendered the UCO/Texas decision at 2:47am, cst (the round began at 12:45am). Thanks to those judges, in particular, for sticking around after everyone else left to give the competing teams a well preferred panel. Vega judged BOTH waves of runoff rounds after hosting the district tournament and judging most of the 8 prelims as well. Goodnight to anyone waiting up for the news, Ermo MoState -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090302/73f87aaf/attachment.htm From mardigras23 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 2 03:23:08 2009 From: mardigras23 at hotmail.com (Aaron Kall) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:23:08 +0000 Subject: [eDebate] Latest Round Ever? In-Reply-To: <650DB0CBB8E8E3418E627BD179329677F55AA3A6A2@XMAIL2.sooner.net.ou.edu> References: <650DB0CBB8E8E3418E627BD179329677F55AA3A6A2@XMAIL2.sooner.net.ou.edu> Message-ID: i believe the final round at the University of Texas (hosting on Northwestern's traditional date) in 2008 didn't conclude until sometime past 3:00 a.m. this was part of the reason people began thinking five elim rounds in one day was probably too many. aaron > From: debate at ou.edu > To: edebate at ndtceda.com > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:44:18 -0600 > Subject: [eDebate] Latest Round Ever? > > Do we have a story for the latest round ever. > > It is 2:42 and I am pretty sure the Longhorns and the Broncos are battling it out on the UMKC Kangaroo campus as I write this email. > > There may not be a decision until until 3:30 or 4. > > There are no energy drinks available on any store shelf in downtown Kansas City. > > The D3 Qualifying tournament proves why you don't know until you debate, and we had some debates. > > Peace > > Massey > > PS - This is runoff round #2 to finalize our bids. > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090302/73d51bab/attachment.htm From hansonjb at whitman.edu Mon Mar 2 03:33:36 2009 From: hansonjb at whitman.edu (Jim Hanson) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:33:36 -0800 Subject: [eDebate] nw ceda champs finishes up Message-ID: <9A63BEDB72AF48FF9F0A4FA710916665@whitman.edu> whitman daniel straus and nate cohn beat gonzaga nick bormann and abe corrigan in finals on a 2-1 decision. we're finishing up here at 1:30am--not quite 3am--but it is late. jim :) hansonjb at whitman.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090302/d9888821/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you intend to apply for a second round and you did not give money to your district chair, you can send me a check for $50.00 made out to the National Debate Tournament at 324 Franklin St, Cambridge, MA 02139, or you can pay on the AFA website. If you pay on the AFA website, please email me a copy of the receipt. Thanks, Sherry Hall -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090302/dcef2364/attachment.htm From davismk13 at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 10:50:51 2009 From: davismk13 at gmail.com (Mike Davis) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:50:51 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Madison Cup Reminder Message-ID: <9a7f6f740903020850pdbf9dc3r7d03daedc9b186a1@mail.gmail.com> Today is the last day to enter the Madison Cup. Please let me know if you plan on attending. The entries are down this year so you have a good chance of getting in the money if you choose to attend. Invite is copied below. Mike January 15, 2009 On behalf of the James Madison Center and JMU Debate we are pleased and excited to invite you to compete for the Madison Cup at the seventh annual "James Madison Commemorative Debate and Citizens Forum" on *Wednesday, March 18, 2009*. The James Madison Commemorative Debate and Citizens Forum is a unique inter-collegiate debate competition, which combines the excitement and challenge of tournament competition with the relevance and empowerment of a public audience and audience participation. It is also one of the showcase events of our university's James Madison Day Celebration. *2009 Topic:* Resolved: That coal based technologies, including "clean coal" technologies, should not be included in our nation's energy future. *Other cool and unique features:* *$15,000.00 in prize money *Debating and competing in front of public audiences *No entry fees *Continental breakfast, snacks and lunch provided *Video web-cast *Great PR for your debate program The tournament details are enclosed with this letter. If you should have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. We look forward to hosting you in March! Mike Davis, Ph. D. Pete Bsumek, Ph.D. Director of Debate Director, Madison Cup Debates School of Comm. Studies School of Comm. Studies James Madison University James Madison University (O) 540-568-7308 (O) 540-568-3386 (E-mail) davismk at jmu.edu (E-mail) bsumekpk at jmu.edu * * * * * * * * *Background: *Timed to coincide with the centennial of James MadisonUniversity in mid-March, "The James Madison Commemorative Debate and Citizen Forum" centers on an important question facing American democracy. The James Madison Center at James Madison University sponsors the event in the spirit of James Madison's ideal that a republican democracy is healthy only when informed and civil debate thrives. The final round will be broadcast live on the World Wide Web. Last year's debate featured teams from Brown University, Cornell University, George Mason University, James Madison University, Johns Hopkins University, Liberty University, Piedmont College, Towson University, Vanderbilt University, University of Mary Washington, University of Richmond, Wake Forest University, and Yale University. *Eligible Participants:* Each school may enter one two-person team. The debate is open to *undergraduate* students who are in good standing at their respective institutions. Second teams will be considered on a case-by-case basis, if space permits. *Competition Format:* The debate uses a "long table" format. *This is a public debate. *Last year there was an audience of around 500 people for the final round, preliminary rounds were smaller (audiences of 20-30 people). * *The "long table" format features three (two person) teams on each side of the question. Speeches start with the affirmative and alternate between the affirmative and negative throughout the debate. Teams are randomly assigned to sides and speaker positions. In other words, if a team is selected to be the first affirmative, they will give the first two affirmative speeches in the debate. The first and last speeches on each side of the question are uninterruptible. Any member of the opposing team may interrupt the speeches in the middle of the debate in order to ask the speaker to yield to a question. Speakers are not required to answer these questions (although not answering questions may cause the audience to think that the speaker is "dodgy"). *Please see the example format below for more information. You can view last year's final round at: * http://www.jmu.edu/orgs/debate/madisonCup/index.html *Jury Adjudication Procedure:* A three to seven member panel, or jury, will adjudicate the debate. Juries will be comprised of local residents, students, professors, distinguished JMU alumni, and special invited guests. At the completion of the debate, the panel will adjourn to discuss, deliberate and decide upon the winners as a group. The jury votes for (2-person) teams, not sides of the question. In other words, first place could go to an affirmative team, while second place could be awarded to a negative team. * * * * *Tournament Procedures:* * * ***Number of rounds: This year we will offer *two preliminary rounds of debate and one final round.* * * ***Switch side debate: Each team will debate at least once on the affirmative and once on the negative. *Side & position: Sides (affirmative or negative), and positions (first affirmative team, first negative team, second affirmative team, etc) for the preliminary debates will be determined by random drawing. *Judging: Judges will rank teams 1-6 in each preliminary debate, and assign each team quality points based on a thirty-point scale (1-30). *Advancing to the final round: The six teams with the lowest total ranks will advance to the final round. Quality points will be used to break ties. *Sides and Speaking Positions in the final round: Sides and speaking positions in the final round will be based on seeding after the preliminary rounds. For example, the first seeded team will choose their "side and position," then the second seed will choose "side and position," and so on. * * *Public Participation:* While the jury deliberates, the floor will be opened for audience comments and speeches. An award for the best floor speech will be presented. Local newspapers, politicians, and the general public are invited. *Awards:* The first place team will leave with the Madison Cup?a very nice traveling trophy. Once again this year there is a $15,000.00 purse of prize money. All participants in the final round will be recognized with awards. Prize money will be awarded as follows: 1st place: $5000.00 donation to your debate program 2nd place: $3000.00 donation to your debate program 3rd place: $2000.00 donation to your debate program 4th?6th place: $1000.00 donation to your debate program 7th-10th place: $500.00 donation to your debate program *Entry:* There are no entry fees. We can accommodate a field of 30 teams. Entry is on a first come, first serve basis. The first 18 teams to enter are guaranteed a spot in the field, after that we will accept teams, if we can generate a field divisible by 4 or 6. *Deadline for entry is February 15th. *This is necessary so we can determine how many debates there will be in each round. Send school info, team info (first and last names of debaters) and requests for additional teams to: Dr. Mike Davis, * * * * * * *Lodging:* We have reserved a block of hotel rooms at the newly renovated Best Western Inn of Harrisonburg (formerly the Guest House Inn). The Best Western Inn is located at exit 247A off of I-81. Go east on Highway 33?the hotel is on the right side of the road. The phone number for the Best Western is 540-433-6089. The rate for 1-4 people per room is $54.00 + tax. *This special tournament rate will be available until March 3.* When calling the Best Western Inn please ask for Gini Boyers, and mention that you are attending the Madison Cup debates at JMU. *Travel: *James Madison University is located in Harrisonburg, VA, which is two hours southwest of Washington, D.C. on I-81. If you plan to fly consider Dullas and Washington National/Reagan Airports in Washington DC (2 hours away), Richmond airport (2 hours away), Charlottesville airport (one hour away) and the Shenandoah Regional Airport (15 minutes away). *We will arrange transport from Shenandoah and Charlottesville, we'll do our best to work with you from the others.* *Schedule:* Wednesday, March 18, 2009: James Madison Commemorative Debate and Citizens Forum 7:30 AM: Pick up at the Best Western or Warsaw Street Parking Deck (no parking on campus) 8:00 AM registration and Announcements 8:30 AM: Preliminary debate round 1 11:00 AM Preliminary debate round 2 1:00 PM Lunch 2:30PM: Madison Day Ceremonies (announcement of the final round participants) 5:00 PM: Final round (followed by the presentation of the Madison Cup) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Example Debate Format:* The 2004 final round proceeded as follows. 1st Affirmative Speech (Wake Forest #1): (4 minutes) uninterrupted 1st Negative Speech (George Mason #1): (4 minutes) uninterrupted 2nd Affirmative Speech (Wake Forest #2): (5 minutes): The first and last minute of the speech are uninterruptible. In the 2nd-4th minutes of the speech any opposition debater may ask the speaker to yield to a question. The speaker may accept, or decline the question. 2nd Negative Speech (George Mason #2): (5 minutes): The first and last minute of the speech are uninterruptible. In the 2nd-4th minutes of the speech any opposition debater may ask the speaker to yield to a question. The speaker may accept, or decline the question. 3rd Affirmative Speech (Georgetown # 1): (5 minutes): The first and last minute of the speech are uninterruptible. In the 2nd-4th minutes of the speech any opposition debater may ask the speaker to yield to a question. The speaker may accept, or decline the question. 3rd Negative Speech (James Madison #1): (5 minutes): The first and last minute of the speech are uninterruptible. In the 2nd-4th minutes of the speech any opposition debater may ask the speaker to yield to a question. The speaker may accept, or decline the question. 4th Affirmative Speech (Georgetown #2): (5 minutes) The first and last minute of the speech are uninterruptible. In the 2nd-4th minutes of the speech any opposition debater may ask the speaker to yield to a question. The speaker may accept, or decline the question. 4th Negative Speech (James Madison #2): (5 minutes) The first and last minute of the speech are uninterruptible. In the 2nd-4th minutes of the speech any opposition debater may ask the speaker to yield to a question. The speaker may accept, or decline the question. 5th Affirmative Speech (Mary Washington #1): (5 minutes) The first and last minute of the speech are uninterruptible. In the 2nd-4th minutes of the speech any opposition debater may ask the speaker to yield to a question. The speaker may accept, or decline the question. 5th Negative Speech (Towson #1): The first and last minute of the speech are uninterruptible. In the 2nd-4th minutes of the speech any opposition debater may ask the speaker to yield to a question. The speaker may accept, or decline the question. 6th Affirmative Speech (Mary Washington #2): (4 minutes) Uninterrupted 6th Negative Speech (Towson University #2): (4 minutes) Uninterrupted -- Dr. Michael Davis Director of Debate/Assistant Professor James Madison University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090302/ac407b32/attachment.htm From Catherine.Palczewski at uni.edu Mon Mar 2 11:20:50 2009 From: Catherine.Palczewski at uni.edu (Catherine Palczewski) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:20:50 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Latest round ever. . . . maybe not Message-ID: <49AC1572.4000504@uni.edu> For the old buffaloes out there, they might remember an even later round. At the Vanderbilt tournament in 1986, on the last day, they held: 1. the last prelim round (round 8 I think) 2. doubles 3. octas 4. quarters 5. semis 6. finals. You do the math to figure out how late that finals ended. Cate From Catherine.Palczewski at uni.edu Mon Mar 2 11:26:06 2009 From: Catherine.Palczewski at uni.edu (Catherine Palczewski) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:26:06 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Novice hybrid partner for JCCC? Message-ID: <49AC16AE.9040006@uni.edu> Hey folks, Does anyone have an extra novice who needs a partner for JCCC? Please let me know. Cate From SpeerMik at Berkeleyprep.org Mon Mar 2 11:34:30 2009 From: SpeerMik at Berkeleyprep.org (Speer, Mike) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:34:30 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Information on Scholarships Message-ID: <1E08D200E9759F40B04E77C415A9E929017460C2@BPEXCHANGE03.accounts.berkeleyprep.org> Does anyone have information about the amount of scholarship money that debaters, as a whole, receive? This is one of those "administrator" questions that, this time of year, merits "special" attention. Thanks for any insights that you can share. Mike Speer Technology Director Debate Coach Berkeley Preparatory School 4811 Kelly Road Tampa, FL 33615 Office 813-885-1673 Cellular 813-777-4298 "Berkeley puts people in the world who make a positive difference." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090302/ca30533a/attachment.htm From nicole.serrano at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 12:09:54 2009 From: nicole.serrano at gmail.com (Nicole Serrano) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:09:54 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Information on Scholarships In-Reply-To: <1E08D200E9759F40B04E77C415A9E929017460C2@BPEXCHANGE03.accounts.berkeleyprep.org> References: <1E08D200E9759F40B04E77C415A9E929017460C2@BPEXCHANGE03.accounts.berkeleyprep.org> Message-ID: <2b7193330903021009m39aa11e0ucaa27161107bddd4@mail.gmail.com> Hi Mike, I'm tyring to put this together for MBA's college counseling page. Can you send me anything you get? I haven't assembled what I got, but two links to start with might be found this while doing something college related http://collegelists.pbwiki.com/Debate+Scholarships+-+Schools+With and then this came up with a search http://www.carthage.edu/admissions/scholarships/debate1.cfm also, thought this website seemed like something you could maybe steal some ideas from. http://www.baylor.edu/comm_studies/index.php?id=2912 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Speer, Mike wrote: > Does anyone have information about the amount of scholarship money that > debaters, as a whole, receive? > > This is one of those ?administrator? questions that, this time of year, > merits ?special? attention. > > > > Thanks for any insights that you can share. > > > > Mike Speer > > Technology Director > > Debate Coach > > Berkeley Preparatory School > > 4811 Kelly Road > > Tampa, FL 33615 > > > > Office 813-885-1673 > > Cellular 813-777-4298 > > > > *"Berkeley puts people in the world who make a positive difference."* > > > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090302/3ffa9547/attachment.htm From hansonjb at whitman.edu Mon Mar 2 12:15:43 2009 From: hansonjb at whitman.edu (Jim Hanson) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:15:43 -0800 Subject: [eDebate] Information on Scholarships In-Reply-To: <2b7193330903021009m39aa11e0ucaa27161107bddd4@mail.gmail.com> References: <1E08D200E9759F40B04E77C415A9E929017460C2@BPEXCHANGE03.accounts.berkeleyprep.org> <2b7193330903021009m39aa11e0ucaa27161107bddd4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: add: http://www.wcdebate.com/7others/list-of-policy-colleges.htm gives information on almost every policy debate program in the country including scholarships. jim :) hansonjb at whitman.edu From: Nicole Serrano Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:09 AM To: Speer, Mike Cc: edebate at ndtceda.com Subject: Re: [eDebate] Information on Scholarships Hi Mike, I'm tyring to put this together for MBA's college counseling page. Can you send me anything you get? I haven't assembled what I got, but two links to start with might be found this while doing something college related http://collegelists.pbwiki.com/Debate+Scholarships+-+Schools+With and then this came up with a search http://www.carthage.edu/admissions/scholarships/debate1.cfm also, thought this website seemed like something you could maybe steal some ideas from. http://www.baylor.edu/comm_studies/index.php?id=2912 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Speer, Mike wrote: Does anyone have information about the amount of scholarship money that debaters, as a whole, receive? This is one of those ?administrator? questions that, this time of year, merits ?special? attention. Thanks for any insights that you can share. Mike Speer Technology Director Debate Coach Berkeley Preparatory School 4811 Kelly Road Tampa, FL 33615 Office 813-885-1673 Cellular 813-777-4298 "Berkeley puts people in the world who make a positive difference." _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090302/a120dfcd/attachment.htm From dave at miami.edu Mon Mar 2 12:23:05 2009 From: dave at miami.edu (Steinberg, David L) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:23:05 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] LIVE Online DEBATE TUESDAY MARCH 3 at 9pm! Message-ID: LIVE DEBATE TUESDAY MARCH 3 at 9pm! Watch live on UMTV's Channel 96 or Go to http://wethestudents.tv/ at 9pm to watch live, comment and ask questions Liberty University Chicago vs. Loyola University Topic: Evolution and Intelligent Design View, Comment and Ask Questions at http://wethestudents.tv/ -We the Students We The Students is sponsored by the University of Miami Ethics Programs with the help of a generous gift from philanthropist Adrienne Arsht. David L. Steinberg Director of Debate, University of Miami P.O. Box 248127 Coral Gables, Florida 33124 305-284-5553 (office) 305-284-5216 (fax) 305-926-8498 (cell) dave at miami.edu Go Canes! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090302/b7a1ddd5/attachment.htm From teasley3 at jccc.edu Mon Mar 2 16:12:24 2009 From: teasley3 at jccc.edu (Terri Easley) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:12:24 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Assistant Coach Position at JCCC -- Posting Message-ID: <8F1214AF088DD246A7A0B489E89441321EFFAAF837@ac-ex07mb1.employee.directory.jccc> The posting is now live on the JCCC website-you can get to it here: https://jobs.jccc.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/frameset/Frameset.jsp?time=1236031601579 Below is the posting - Review starts on March 30th. The entire process is online - please submit everything (letters/transcripts/etc) through the online process. Don't worry about the (anticipated) next to the title - it has formally been approved and open and will be filled. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Terri Easley Director of Debate Johnson County Community College Assistant Professor - Speech/Assistant Debate Coach Teach classroom courses in Debate, Public Speaking, Interpersonal Communication and Personal Communication, as well as serving as an assistant debate coach for the debate team. Coaching responsibilities included assisting the Debate Coach by: traveling to tournaments, judging, managing team research, the development of team strategies, conducting and evaluating practice debates, recruiting, assisting in the hosting of the National Junior Division Debate Tournament and various other responsibilities as assigned by the Debate Coach. Must be willing and able to work with all experience levels ( novice, JV, and open). Will perform other duties expected of full-time faculty. Must be willing to work a flexible schedule, which will include evening and week-end assignments. Master's Degree in Speech Communication or a closely related field with an emphasis in communication required. JD with communication/debate emphasis acceptable. Previous college-level debate coaching experience and Post-Secondary teaching experience is required. Demonstrate knowledge of and commitment to the teaching mission of a comprehensive community college required. REQUIRED: Resume, Cover Letter, Curriculum Vitae, Letters of Reference and Unofficial Transcripts. If employed, certified transcripts for all college level education will be required. REQUIRED: Question for faculty applicants: "On the first day of class, if your students asked you to tell them what to expect from you as a teacher, what would you say?" (Attach your response in "Other Document" section of application.) Please attach required documents when completing the application. ________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090302/755837f9/attachment.htm From teasley3 at jccc.edu Mon Mar 2 16:12:24 2009 From: teasley3 at jccc.edu (Terri Easley) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:12:24 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Assistant Coach Position at JCCC -- Posting Message-ID: <8F1214AF088DD246A7A0B489E89441321EFFAAF837@ac-ex07mb1.employee.directory.jccc> The posting is now live on the JCCC website-you can get to it here: https://jobs.jccc.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/frameset/Frameset.jsp?time=1236031601579 Below is the posting - Review starts on March 30th. The entire process is online - please submit everything (letters/transcripts/etc) through the online process. Don't worry about the (anticipated) next to the title - it has formally been approved and open and will be filled. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Terri Easley Director of Debate Johnson County Community College Assistant Professor - Speech/Assistant Debate Coach Teach classroom courses in Debate, Public Speaking, Interpersonal Communication and Personal Communication, as well as serving as an assistant debate coach for the debate team. Coaching responsibilities included assisting the Debate Coach by: traveling to tournaments, judging, managing team research, the development of team strategies, conducting and evaluating practice debates, recruiting, assisting in the hosting of the National Junior Division Debate Tournament and various other responsibilities as assigned by the Debate Coach. Must be willing and able to work with all experience levels ( novice, JV, and open). Will perform other duties expected of full-time faculty. Must be willing to work a flexible schedule, which will include evening and week-end assignments. Master's Degree in Speech Communication or a closely related field with an emphasis in communication required. JD with communication/debate emphasis acceptable. Previous college-level debate coaching experience and Post-Secondary teaching experience is required. Demonstrate knowledge of and commitment to the teaching mission of a comprehensive community college required. REQUIRED: Resume, Cover Letter, Curriculum Vitae, Letters of Reference and Unofficial Transcripts. If employed, certified transcripts for all college level education will be required. REQUIRED: Question for faculty applicants: "On the first day of class, if your students asked you to tell them what to expect from you as a teacher, what would you say?" (Attach your response in "Other Document" section of application.) Please attach required documents when completing the application. ________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Israel Pastrana From let_the_american_empire_burn at hotmail.com Mon Mar 2 18:17:23 2009 From: let_the_american_empire_burn at hotmail.com (Kevin Sanchez) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:17:23 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Sanchez: article 2 is too difficult 4 obamatrons Message-ID: in reply to, http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/2009-March/077856.html you need to decide what you define as political activity... if foucault was correct, and politics is what goes on in schools, prisons, families, corporations, hospitals, etc., then what goes on in washington is merely the tip of an enormous iceberg of social practice, and the critical task is to establish a distance from the state; but if state politics does matter in the way politicians say it does, then you're susceptible to the normal political calculations -- in that domain, your charges lack a modicum of traction or believability. if politics is culture, i suppose your spiel uses a conservative rhetoric to discredit what i consider an imperial presidency, and in that sense performs a noble function. only, it's a tasteless rhetoric, one of anti-foreigner bias and one that undercuts the international perspective which should form the basis of our criticism of obama's administration... we are so busy trying to resuscitate the american dream that we've forgotten m.l.k.'s real dream: to become citizens of the world. ...where was that in obama's inaugural, amidst the same bush-lite crap about the terrorists hating 'our' freedom? you're the distraction. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090302/94b96dbd/attachment.htm From andy.edebate at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 08:51:56 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:51:56 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Max Adler Novice of the Year Award Message-ID: <9368bc9b0903030651x64f7ac89n7557c6965fdbca9e@mail.gmail.com> This weekend at the d8/ne region championships at Baruch I announced that the Novice of the Year Award presented this weekend at JV/Novice Nationals will be named in honor of Max Adler. If you didn't know Max you missed out on knowing a pretty cool debater. I didn't know max beyond my interactions with him in my role as a coach and a judge, but from what i knew of him he was a hard working, intellegent, and excited member of our community. When he passed away last year I like many people asked what can i do to support his grieving friends, family, and teammates. I began a discussion with Frank Montano from the New School about naming an award in Max's honor. After consulting with Max's parents frank recently indicated to me his and max's family's support and we where able to go ahead. This weekend at JV/Novice Nationals at Towson we will present the first annual Max Adler Novice of the Year Tournament. I have extended the deadline for entries on special awards. If you would like to nominate someone for this or one of the other special awards please check out http://jvnovnats09.wordpress.com/special-award/ i would like to have all nominations in by the time the weekend starts, and will absolutly stop accepting entries at the close of registration friday night. The next email will have a large amount of updates about the tournament. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Entries are still open, they will close thursday, at which point preferences will be turned on, you will then have till friday evening to get them done. 1)Tournament procedures a) Undergrad Judging- Undergrads will be able to judge as they have in the past, this year they can only count for half of your commitment, but you can put them in for more rounds. They cannont judge in divisions that they have been competing in regularly and are at the discretion of the tournament director. b) Eligibility- As per the invitation, if you began the season with novice or jv eligibility you are eligible to compete regardless of final round qualification or ndt qualification. C) Teams Clearing- We will clear up to half the field as per ceda regulations. Assuming nothing goes goofy, this should mean all 4-3s clear. We will not clear 3-4's d) deadlines- Entries 10 pm thursday night. Prefs 7pm friday night. Registration confirmation 10 pm friday night. Special Award nominations Friday 10 pm. 2) Preferences - Mike Davis and i will use a 6 catagory preference system in the tab room, these preferences need to be entered by 7 pm friday at the latest on debate results, basicaly by the time you register you should have your prefs entered. If you do not have them by 11pm friday evening they will not count. We will make an effort to enter late prefs for later rounds but make no gaurentees.Supplemental strike sheets will be likely. 3) Registration- Registration is at the hotel 7-10. If you will not make it by 10 pm call or email andy ellis at 240-285-0843 in order to confirm your registration. any other questions please contact me -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They cannont judge in divisions that they have > been competing in regularly and are at the discretion of the tournament > director. > b) Eligibility- As per the invitation, if you began the season with novice > or jv eligibility you are eligible to compete regardless of final round > qualification or ndt qualification. > C) Teams Clearing- We will clear up to half the field as per ceda > regulations. Assuming nothing goes goofy, this should mean all 4-3s clear. > We will not clear 3-4's > d) deadlines- Entries 10 pm thursday night. Prefs 7pm friday night. > Registration confirmation 10 pm friday night. Special Award nominations > Friday 10 pm. > > 2) Preferences - Mike Davis and i will use a 6 catagory preference system > in the tab room, these preferences need to be entered by 7 pm friday at the > latest on debate results, basicaly by the time you register you should have > your prefs entered. If you do not have them by 11pm friday evening they will > not count. We will make an effort to enter late prefs for later rounds but > make no gaurentees.Supplemental strike sheets will be likely. > > 3) Registration- Registration is at the hotel 7-10. If you will not make it > by 10 pm call or email andy ellis at 240-285-0843 in order to confirm your > registration. > > any other questions please contact me > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090303/7c746c77/attachment.htm From jmill12 at mail.rochester.edu Tue Mar 3 10:51:39 2009 From: jmill12 at mail.rochester.edu (Gordie Miller) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:51:39 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Rounds Available for Towson Message-ID: <49ad601b.38e.39c6.5028@mail.rochester.edu> The University of Rochester has several rounds of judging available for the Novice National/ JV National Championship at Towson. Please contact me, Gordie Miller, if you are interested and I will get you set up with our judge(s) as needed. Gordie Miller Asst Director URDU From sarahtp73 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 3 10:57:25 2009 From: sarahtp73 at yahoo.com (Sarah Partlow) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:57:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [eDebate] Fw: Computer Access CEDA Message-ID: <137799.3865.qm@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello everyone - We are still accepting MAC addresses. Please get them in as soon as possible to ensure internet access for your school. We are looking forward to hosting you and appreciate your cooperation on this. Please let me know if you have questions or need additional assistance. Desaray will post an updated list of who still needs to submit their addresses in the next day or so. Thanks - Sarah ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Sarah Partlow To: edebate Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:47:23 PM Subject: [eDebate] Computer Access CEDA - IMPORTANT!!!! Deadline March 1. Dear Coaches, We at ISU are excited to have you all coming and participating in CEDA. In anticipation of this event ISU is going to give participants access to their primary network on campus. However, we need a list of the following information: 1. Your school name 2. The name of each participant and the MAC address for the computer thtey plan to use at CEDA. 3. This must be sent to desaraybrown at gmail.com no later than March 1st 2009. After March 1, we cannot guarantee you access to the internet while on campus. 4. Please put ?CEDA MAC addresses (school name)? in the subject line of the e-mail. Each school will be issued a user id and password which will work for all registered computers from that school. Please have your students update their virus software and refrain from engaging in activities that dominate the bandwidth such as downloading pictures and videos. If there is a problem with one machine from a school, the entire school will be immediately disabled. Also, if someone crashes the network, it is unlikely that it will be restored for the remainder of the tournament. Instructions for finding the MAC address are included. Thank you for your time. ISU CEDA staff. Directions for People with WINDOWS 1. Push the start button. 2. Click the ?run? icon. 3. Type cmd and push enter 4. Once the command screen pops us type: ipconfig/all 5. Push enter 6. Scroll down to the Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection. 7. Look for the ?Physical Address? 8. Send this number for each individual computer. Please include the slashes. Directions for people with Macintosh Refer to the following link: http://www.opentutorial.com/Find_your_mac_address -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So, if you want to stay at the Best Western, please book asap. They would like to be able to open those rooms for other customers if we aren't going to use them. Thanks! ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Sarah Partlow To: edebate Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 1:46:53 PM Subject: Hotel Rooms At CEDA - 9 doubles left at Best Western 9 doubles are still available at the Best Western Cotton Tree INN You need to ask for "CEDA" If you have trouble getting a room, please talk to Mary. She is willing to extend the tournament rate for the rooms they have left (mostly single queens) Mary Bradshaw Best Western 208/237-7650 Hotel pocatellosales at bwcti.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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JMU #2 7. Johns Hopkins 8. Liberty 9. Mary Washington #1 10. Mary Washington #2 11. Piedmont 12. Pittsburgh 13. Richmond #1 14. Richmond #2 15. Towson #1 16. Towson #2 17. William and Mary 18. Yale #1 19. Yale #2 If you are still interested in attending we may be able to find a spot for you. -- Dr. Michael Davis Director of Debate/Assistant Professor James Madison University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090303/139573a6/attachment.htm From sethellsworth at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 14:48:06 2009 From: sethellsworth at gmail.com (Seth T. Ellsworth) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:48:06 -0700 Subject: [eDebate] Round for sale ndt Message-ID: <412d08cb0903031248m1460fa0ava508bc344d918520@mail.gmail.com> I have one round for sale at the ndt. Cash prefered. -- Lights Out, Right Now From sarahtp73 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 3 15:25:05 2009 From: sarahtp73 at yahoo.com (Sarah Partlow) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:25:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [eDebate] Fw: Shuttle Information for CEDA Nationals - SLC Airport to Pocatello Message-ID: <119182.4285.qm@web31601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I had a request that I re-post this information. I hope everyone is having a great day! ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Sue Peterson To: "edebate at ndtceda.com" ; ceda-l at ndtceda.com Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 11:23:53 PM Subject: [eDebate] Shuttle Information for CEDA Nationals - SLC Airport to Pocatello Hello everyone... I hope that everyone's Spring semester is off to a good start. As you complete your travel plans for CEDA Nationals at Idaho State this year, I wanted to encourage those of you flying into Salt Lake City to consider taking a shuttle from the airport to Pocatello and using the hotel to campus transportation that has been arranged for each day of competition rather than renting a car. I think you will find this option both cheaper and a more convenient choice. Below is the booking information for the CEDA-arranged shuttle transportation from SLC to Pocatello and the return trip to the airport. In addition, CEDA will be providing shuttle services for free from the hotel to tournament and back again each day once you arrive in Pocatello. This information is in the CEDA Nationals invitation under rental car information. Airport shuttle arrangements can be made through Salt Lake Express at http://www.saltlakeexpress.com/ When you click on reservations, choose the Salt Lake City Airport departure and the Pocatello Idaho arrival and then back to Salt Lake City Airport on the dates you are scheduled to travel. In the promo code box, enter CED09 to receive the discounted rate. The next screen will provide you with all of the departure choices for both your airport to Pocatello travel. The shuttles run regularly, every two hours between the hours of 8 a.m. and 10:30 p.m. from the airport and between 3:30 a.m. and 6:30 p.m. from Pocatello back to the airport. So, no matter what your travel times are, you should be able to get a shuttle without having too much of a wait at the airport coming or going. The discounted rate will be $30 per person going each direction - which is $12 cheaper than the usual rate - a $24 savings per person for the round trip. They can accommodate small or large numbers with their vehicles, so there are no minimum or maximum group numbers to receive the discount. I researched the cost of rental cars and found mini-vans to run between $350 and $400 for a mini-van (which would barely fit 6 people and tubs) plus the cost of gas (and some of these at this price had mileage restrictions), while the shuttle will only run you $360 for the six people. The cost is fixed and guaranteed and you have no worries about getting the right vehicle when you arrive and having enough room for your people, tubs and luggage. The shuttle drops off at a Shell Station that is right between the tournament hotel and the overflow hotel, meaning easy access to the pick-up and drop-off points. I hope that many of you will consider using this option as it will give us some idea of what we can do for group discounts in the future and give us some bargaining power for future CEDA Nationals. If you have any questions about the shuttle service, please feel free to contact me. Thanks, Sue Peterson, Director of Speech and Debate at CSU Chico sepeterson at csuchico.edu 530-898-4771 "Girl Effect, n. The powerful social and economic change brought about when girls have the opportunity to participate in their society." http://www.girleffect.org/#/home/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090303/ec64eb5e/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate From npaqueo at gmu.edu Tue Mar 3 23:37:40 2009 From: npaqueo at gmu.edu (Niccolo Cortes Paqueo) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:37:40 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Georgetown HZ or delete Message-ID: Dorothy or Lucy, Please backchannel me when you get the opportunity. I have a cite request. Thanks, Niccolo Paqueo George Mason University From sarahtp73 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 4 09:44:07 2009 From: sarahtp73 at yahoo.com (Sarah Partlow) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:44:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [eDebate] Fw: CEDA Shirt Sizes Message-ID: <258420.85490.qm@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Don't miss out! These shirts are complimentary :) ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Sarah Partlow To: edebate Cc: Desaray Brown Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:43:36 PM Subject: [eDebate] CEDA Shirt Sizes 1. Send an email to desaraybrown at gmail.com 2. The subject line should be CEDA Shirts Sizes (Your School Name) 3. List the number of participants from your school (including debaters and coaches) and the sizes needed. Thanks Sarah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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These shirts are complimentary :) ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Sarah Partlow To: edebate Cc: Desaray Brown Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:43:36 PM Subject: [eDebate] CEDA Shirt Sizes 1. Send an email to desaraybrown at gmail.com 2. The subject line should be CEDA Shirts Sizes (Your School Name) 3. List the number of participants from your school (including debaters and coaches) and the sizes needed. Thanks Sarah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090304/6408df0a/attachment.htm From regedebate at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 10:17:06 2009 From: regedebate at gmail.com (David Register) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:17:06 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] WDI Scholars 2009 Message-ID: <8f08f7f30903040817m7baf8105lde9fb468a3564c8d@mail.gmail.com> Are you a competitive national debater looking for an extra edge in your junior or senior year? Are you interested in working with one the top coaches in the country on a pre-season argument? Do you enjoy teaching and assisting in the construction of innovative positions? Are you willing to compete in the first web-cast debate on the 2009-10 CEDA/NDT Topic? If the answer is yes to any of these questions, you should apply to the WDI Summer 2009 College Policy Scholars Program. Selected WDI Scholars will receive a full tuition scholarship for the long WDI session (there are now three sessions of varying length), including housing, a meal-plan, and hard copies of the evidence set. General information can be found at: http://learn.uvm.edu/wdi/?Page=college.html#policy WDI Scholars will work closely with lab instructors to produce pre-institute arguments and will assist in instruction and guidance. WDI Scholars will also have the opportunity to compete in a demonstration debate on the first Saturday of the institute after the release of the topic-the first web cast debate of the season. To apply: Email a short letter of interest, including your debate qualifications (brief) and two references (names and contact emails for references will suffice) to David Register at dregiste at uvm.edu. Please include "WDI SCHOLARS" in the subject line of the email. Come join us this summer in Burlington. Apply soon. Sincerely, The WDI College Policy Scholars Committee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090304/599aeeeb/attachment.htm From kristopherwillis at hotmail.com Wed Mar 4 11:28:47 2009 From: kristopherwillis at hotmail.com (Kris Willis) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:28:47 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Hybrid for CEDA Message-ID: We are looking for a Hybrid at CEDA Nats. I have a senior debater who is fairly good and partner has quit (sick). Please back channel if you have someone. Kris _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090304/5c788ecf/attachment.htm From stevendamico at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 11:55:27 2009 From: stevendamico at gmail.com (Steven D'Amico) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:55:27 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Any squad have an extra bed available in Towson Friday evening? Message-ID: I'm looking for a place to crash Friday evening in Towson. I'll cover my share of the room for the evening. Lemme know, D'Amico -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Maine East is a TOC qualifier in Policy at the semifinals level POLICY Jack McLeod - John Zhao Glenbrook, South HS, IL Jillian Jordan - Tamar Kaplan, Highland Park, IL Flynn Makuch - Victor Shao ,Glenbrook North, IL Joe Balistreri - Michael Hoffmann, Marquette University,WI *Grace Zhang - Adam Wolken, Glenbrook North, IL VICTORY BRIEFS Mike Bietz, director of the Victory Briefs Invitational, has certified the 2009 TOC qualifiers. Victory Briefs is a TOC qualifier in Lincoln Douglas at the quarters level, and Public Forum at the Semis level LINCOLN DOUGLAS Daniel Moerner,Los Altos, CA Matt Hershey, Scarsdale, NY Daniel Garber, Mountain View, CA Sean Nadel, Harvard- Westlake CA Ben Lewis, Walt Whitman, MY Daniel Khalessi, Mountain View, CA Ken Hershey, Scarsdale, NY Paul Gu, Corona del Sol, AR *Mountain View, Jeff Merrill, Mountain View, CA PUBLIC FORUM Merrick Campbell and Riana Lobu, Flintridge Prep, CA Appu Bhaskar and Benjamin Chen, Harker, CA Kelsey Hilbrich and Kaavya Gowda, Harker, CA Gurjot Mattu and Jonathan Wu, James Logan, CA MEMORIAL Cecil Trent, director of the Houston Memorial Invitational, has certified the 2009 TOC qualifiers. Memorial is a TOC qualifier in Policy at the Semis level, and LD at the finals level. POLICY Craig Smyser/Layne Kirshon- The Kinkaid School,TX Christina Qiu/Rekha Tenjarla- Westwood,TX Jacob Quinn/Amy Schade- Grapevine,TX Jacon Uzman/Matthew Liu- Bellaire,TX LINCOLN DOUGLAS Andrew Waks- Westlake,TX Paul Tyger, Strake Jesuit,TX COLLEYVILLE Dave Huston, director of the Colleyville Texas Invitational, has certified the Colleyville qualifiers for 2009. Colleyville is a TOC qualifier in Policy at the semis level, and LD at the finals level. POLICY Chris Power & Katie DiTullio, Bishop Guertin, NH Nupi Bhushan & Anna Litman, Greenhill, TX Natalie San Luis & Nathan DuPont, Jack C. Hays,TX David Mullins & John Baker, Westlake, TX LINCOLN DOUGLAS Madeline Voung, Anderson, TX Andrew Waks, Westlake, TX *Devin Race, Westlake, TX JW Patterson TOC Founder From kristopherwillis at hotmail.com Wed Mar 4 19:06:58 2009 From: kristopherwillis at hotmail.com (Kris Willis) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:06:58 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] New ADA Schedule Message-ID: Because the tournament will not require 5 outrounds in any one division, the new schedule is listed below. Registration is only on Friday now. Still not to late for the Hike on Thursday (maybe Friday). Email me if you are interested. We look forward to having you in Boone soon! Kris Friday, March 13th 11:00 am-2:00 pm Lobby, Raley Hall Registration (Lunch on your own) 4:00pm Round One 5:30pm Dinner (provided) 6:30pm Round Two Saturday, March 14th 8:00am Pairings and Continental Breakfast 8:30am Round Three 11:00am Round Four 1:00pm Lunch (provided) (Sponsored by Lowe?s Hardware and Georgia Pacific) 2:00pm Round Five 5:30pm Round Six (Dinner on your own?list of Restaurants given at Tournament) Sunday, March 15th 8:00am First Elimination Round 11:00am Awards Banquet (Broyhill) 1:30pm Elimination Rounds Continue _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <2e0f7ba70903050742i15672bdfxd064bc12725ca937@mail.gmail.com> need a lil' help. the linkhttp:// commweb.fullerton.edu/jbruschke/NDT/%5C%5Ccommweb.fullerton.edu%5Cjbruschke%5CNDT%5CNDTDocs%5CLetter%202009.docain't working for me, and i can't seem to find another link that would let me know how much we'll owe in order to get a check cut for NDT registration fees. hester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090305/08678f30/attachment.htm From delliott at kckcc.edu Thu Mar 5 10:05:20 2009 From: delliott at kckcc.edu (Darren Elliott) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:05:20 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] CEDA JUDGING Message-ID: <20090305T100520Z_0A6D00070001@kckcc.edu> Greetings! We are busily preparing for your arrival in Pocatello. I think you will find this year's National Tournament a great experience and you will be glad you are there. Remember the early payment deadline to enter the tournament is this Friday (tomorrow). Please enter teams on debateresults.com, update your dietary info there, and include all judges. Eligibility documents can be scanned and uploaded to that site as well, or mailed to me. Payment can be made by going to cedadebate.org and paying online, or you can pay at the tournament, or mail a check with your elig forms if you are mailing them. JUDGING: Please update your judging ASAP so Gary can begin to make decisions regarding MPJ. I also know need to know so we can make arrangements to find extra judging. There are 8 prelims--if you are in for more than 8, while I am sure you are that talented, we prefer not to flight rounds, so we will ask you only put yourself in for no more than 8 rounds. : ) Volunteers for extra rounds are also appreciated. thanks, chief Darren Elliott Director of Debate and Forensics--KCKCC CEDA President -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090305/2cc61212/attachment.htm From delliott at kckcc.edu Thu Mar 5 10:08:59 2009 From: delliott at kckcc.edu (Darren Elliott) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:08:59 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Round for a Round Promotion Message-ID: <20090305T100859Z_0A6D00070001@kckcc.edu> IT'S BACK! I fully plan to use the brilliant idea that was first initiated at last year's Nationals by Immediate Past President Joe Patrice. In order to maximize prefs, cover judging needs, and add rounds to a very tight pool, I am offering a round for a round. Let me know if you will volunteer rounds beyond your commitment. If so, you will receive a drink ticket at registration that you may use at the cash bar during the opening assembly for a drink on us. Give us a round and we'll give you a round! The number of rounds we need will be limited so jump on this early! chief Darren Elliott Director of Debate and Forensics--KCKCC CEDA President -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090305/9f8634c2/attachment.htm From delliott at kckcc.edu Thu Mar 5 10:42:28 2009 From: delliott at kckcc.edu (Darren Elliott) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:42:28 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Round for Round--1st taker Message-ID: <20090305T104228Z_0A6D00070001@kckcc.edu> Dustin Greenwalt from Baylor was the first to graciously offer two rounds. Come on folks, step up. 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So, if you want to stay at the Best Western, please book asap. They would like to be able to open those rooms for other customers if we aren't going to use them. Thanks! ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Sarah Partlow To: edebate Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 1:46:53 PM Subject: Hotel Rooms At CEDA - 9 doubles left at Best Western 9 doubles are still available at the Best Western Cotton Tree INN You need to ask for "CEDA" If you have trouble getting a room, please talk to Mary. She is willing to extend the tournament rate for the rooms they have left (mostly single queens) Mary Bradshaw Best Western 208/237-7650 Hotel pocatellosales at bwcti.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anxiously awaiting your recipients so we can get awards set and the program finalized. thanks, chief Darren Elliott Director of Debate and Forensics--KCKCC CEDA President Regional Reps: Kristen Hamilton--West Derek Buescher--Northwest Matt Stannard--Rocky Mountain Justin Green--Mid America David Cram-Helwich--North Central Tiffany Dillard--Southeast Central Mike Davis--Mid Atlantic Vik Keenan--Northeast Jarrod Atchison--South Central Jake Thompson--Southern Cal Marissa Silber--Southeast Brent Brossman--East Central -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090305/95cd364f/attachment.htm From kenrjohnson at msn.com Thu Mar 5 14:07:53 2009 From: kenrjohnson at msn.com (Ken Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:07:53 -0700 Subject: [eDebate] WANTED: Debate Coach for University of Rochester -- Job Announcement Message-ID: This is an unofficial announcement. Our Dean must give the go-ahead before we can officially hire assistant coaches for 2008-09. This is a coaching only position. We are looking for dynamic candidates with a desire to teach and coach debate to students across all ability and experience ranges. Our program privileges novice debate equally with NDT level competition. An ideal candidate will be able to generate confidence in new debaters, and in the next breath, be able to turn around and help the next person in-line prepare for a national circuit level tournament. You must also be willing to support the development of our public debate program and world's style parliamentary debate program. These are the assumed details: This is a year-to-year position. $14,000 salary for Sept-May + University Medical Benefits + $200/tournament (judging stipend). Rochester, NY is a very low priced place to live. Rents with roommates can be found in the $200-$400/month range. Please email me at Kenrjohnson at msn.com with questions and interest. Thanks and please pass this along to your graduating students. I will be at JV/Novi Nats (Towson) and CEDA Nats to answer any questions. You are also welcome to ask Mike Girouard, Brady Fletcher, or Gordie Miller for their "inside scoop" on working with the University of Rochester Debate Union. I look forward to hearing from you. Ken Johnson Director of Forensics University of Rochester -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, -Chris Crowe Chris Crowe University of Wyoming 78 Rounds on the 2008-2009 Agriculture Topic (42 Aff/33 Neg) 69 Rounds excluding JV, a late forfeit, and the Wyoming Scrimmage (38 Aff/28 Neg) Most debaters reading philosophies are either total debate geeks that just like to know general tendencies, or are just wondering if a judge likes the K or not. I did a small analysis of how I?ve voted in particular styles of debates this year to maybe give some insight into the points of contention one might want to capitalize on. Hopefully this can help you figure out the answer to the question, ?What the hell is with the aff hackery, Crowe?? I broke the debates I judged down into four categories: 1) Policy Aff vs. Policy Neg, 2) Kritik Aff vs. Kritik Neg, 3) Policy Aff vs. Kritik Neg, and 4) Kritik Aff vs. Policy Neg. DEFINITIONS: Policy Aff: an affirmative case that instrumentally defends the outcome of their policy. If the advantages are contingent entirely on the implementation of the plan, it falls into this category. For example, affirmatives that defend the plan is needed to solve ?hunger? and that one starving person outweighs a nuke war are a ?policy aff.? Policy Neg: in these debates, the 2NR went for an argument that?s link derives exclusively from the implementation of the plan (disads, case args, counterplans). Framework arguments forcing the affirmative to defend the instrumental implementation of the plan and topicality arguments are included in this category. Kritik Aff: an affirmative case that defends something other than exclusively an instrumental adoption of the plan. 2ARs that go for something like gendered language or speed bad or an argument that similarly is not about their plan are lumped into this category. Kritik Neg: in these debates, the 2NR went for an argument that?s link derives from something other than (or in addition to) the implementation of the plan. Some ?kritiks? that are *mostly* debated like disadvantages (capitalism, civilization bad, etc.) are lumped into this category for distinction conveniences and because they at least *sometimes* include some epistemological/ontological/other element as well. I also included counterplans that PIC out of a word or phrase that have no real functionally competitive component that is relevant to the net-benefit. JUDGING RECORDS BY CATEGORY Policy Aff vs. Policy Neg: 23 Debates (16 Aff/7 Neg) Kritik Aff vs. Kritik Neg: 12 Debates (6 Aff/6 Neg) Policy Aff vs. Kritik Neg: 20 Debates (14 Aff/6 Neg) Kritik Aff vs. Policy Neg: 14 Debates (5 Aff/9 Neg) INSIGHT BY CATEGORY: Policy Aff vs. Policy Neg: I think a few main things account for the aff-leaning here; 1) I voted aff in every topicality debate [twice], 2) there were a few instances where negatives went for counterplans that were deemed not competitive, 3) a lack of case debate in the 2NR usually inflated the magnitude of the risk of a solvency deficit to a counterplan, and 4) the negative didn?t control impact framing or ?even-if? situations. Kritik Aff vs. Kritik Neg: I thought this section would be more neg heavy because, in general, some kritik affs don?t have good justifications for their plan, and the negative usually capitalizes on some version of a ?state bad? argument. But everything?s even here, so maybe it?s just luck of the draw. Policy Aff vs. Kritik Neg: Another aff-leaning record and I think it?s because 1) negatives were behind on the spin against the ?truth? of the advantages [whether or not the aff solved them], 2) difficulties defending alternatives theoretically [mostly the agent of the alternative or whether or not the alternative rejected more than just the plan]. It seems an alternative that just rejects the affirmative wins more often when it?s explained as a criticism of the aff?s method that is a voting issue in itself. Without this, many of these alternatives have uniqueness problems [e.g. I voted aff against the cap K twice because of ?subsidy cuts coming now? evidence]. If an alternative rejects more than the aff/plan, then the neg needs to win the spin on the classic ?alternative overcomes the link to the aff? double-bind. Kritik Aff vs. Policy Neg: Two clear reasons this has leaned neg: 1) kritik affs having difficulties rationalizing their criticism of a disad or deontology-flavored arguments in the face of a counterplan that solves the entire aff. Many times, the affs that lost didn?t advance any credible solvency deficits to the counterplans. 2) framework debates where the aff lost/conceded one of two arguments: A) there?s a topical version of the aff, and B) unpredictable nature of the aff means a judge can?t determine that their impacts are true because they didn?t have the opportunity to be tested critically. STILL RELEVANT QUOTATIONS: "I believe I have an obligation to work as hard at judging as the debaters do preparing for the debates. I will read evidence. I do expect debaters to be comprehensible and I have no qualms about telling you if I can't understand you. I try my best to resolve a debate based on what the debaters have said in their speeches." -Scott Harris "It's a little harder to get me to vote on a cheap-shot than with other judges. By default, I assume that a cheap-shot is a reason to reject the argument rather than the team - even if the other team drops the cheap shot. You can get me to vote on a cheap shot only if you give a reason why it's a reason to reject the team." -David Heidt "I think CX could be used more effectively in most debates, especially to clarify arguments and get commitments. CX answers are usually binding (e.g. what the plan does), but are relevant only as they are used to make arguments in speeches. I try to take notes on CX regarding matters like what the plan and counterplan actually do." -Ken Strange "Even if...because...: Yeah, I ripped this idea off from Becky Galentine, I know, but I have yet to hear a more effective tool for rebuttals. You aren't winning everything. So it would behoove you to protect yourself by indicating why you still win even if your opponent should win some of their important arguments." -Adam Symonds "IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, TELL A JOKE AND HAVE FUN. Debate is a good activity, but not if you're wound up so tight that you aren't enjoying yourself. There is no professional debate; you are only doing this because you like it. Don't lose sight of that." -Jon Bruschke IF AT ALL CONFUSED about any of this...just read Josh Branson's philosophy. -- Christopher Crowe University of Wyoming -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090305/144a2cc2/attachment.htm From crb012000 at utdallas.edu Thu Mar 5 15:30:57 2009 From: crb012000 at utdallas.edu (Burk, Christopher R) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:30:57 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Speaker Awards at District III - Unofficial Message-ID: Speaker Awards at District III Tournament 2009 (Unofficial) 15. Burr ? Trinity 14. Webb - Missouri State 13. McVey ? Baylor 12. Kennedy ? Kansas 11. Quigley ? Kansas 10. Mendenhall ? Kansas State 9. Elson ? Trinity 8. Spurlock ? Central Oklahoma 7. Cook ? Baylor 6. Henry ? Central Oklahoma 5. Foley ? Missouri State 4. Thomas ? UT San Antonio 3. Casey ? Central Oklahoma 2. Baker ? UT Dallas 1. Rubaie ? UT Dallas Congratulations to the speaker award winners & the bid winners. And good luck to the second round applicants from District III Christopher Burk Director of Debate University of Texas at Dallas www.utdallas.edu/orgs/debate/ "If you believe everything you read, you better not read." -- Japanese Proverb From davismk13 at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 15:39:08 2009 From: davismk13 at gmail.com (Mike Davis) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:39:08 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] JV/Novice Nats Prefs Message-ID: <9a7f6f740903051339v65f28a23y7d22e4636cf3fe0d@mail.gmail.com> Prefs are active. Place 13 in each category in novice, place 12 in each category in JV (6 strikes in each). 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Thanks, Sarah Spring From andy.edebate at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 21:27:41 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 22:27:41 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Twitter & Facebook for JV nov nats Message-ID: <9368bc9b0903051927r202aebdeh63b71c4be2da369e@mail.gmail.com> To the best of our ability we will use twiiter and facebook for tournament updates. To follow on twitter go to www.twitter.com/bmoreyours To follow on facebook add Andy Ellis as a friend and become a fan of http://www.facebook.com/pages/YOURS/25871684795 (you can join th cause on this page, but the updates will come through the page not the cause, if this is confusing to you, ask me) Starting tomorrow evening both of these services will have updates throughout the weekend as will the tournament blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Norris) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:39:25 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Pittsburgh LS -- Cite Requests Message-ID: <3bf818490903061339y61f4c5c0ucdcfeb1c96d1212d@mail.gmail.com> Backchannel me please. Cameron Norris cameron.t.norris at vanderbilt.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090306/5b683972/attachment.htm From rpress38 at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 18:39:27 2009 From: rpress38 at gmail.com (Ronnie Press) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:39:27 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] 6 rounds of judging available for the NJDDT @ JCCC 3/14-3/15 Message-ID: <28ecc3a70903061639v2c922dd3hadf15adf0800b902@mail.gmail.com> I can judge rounds 1-3 and 5-7 if anyone needs rounds covered. I don't need housing/transportation. Thanks. Ronnie Press University of Kansas '09 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090307/14804305/attachment.htm From andy.edebate at gmail.com Sat Mar 7 07:12:36 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:12:36 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] RD 1 and 2 Not a pdf Message-ID: <9368bc9b0903070512n5553f903l67e4d8cd54c244c6@mail.gmail.com> Junior Varsity/novice Nationals at Towso -- Junior Varsity 3/7/2009 through 3/9/2009 SCHEDULE FOR ROUND 1 -- START TIME: 8:30 Binghamton BS Umass-amherst DG li 310 Patrice, Joe Binghamton GS Liberty University FH li 314 Love, Dayvon Csu Fullerton CP Binghamton TT li 317 Westmoreland, Jo Fordham University AS Louisiana-lafayette PS li 013 Nielson, Toni George Mason Univers JL Umass-amherst RB li 311 Fletcher, Brady James Madison ES Liberty University GT li 210 Marty, Jillian Kansas State DR U.s. Military Academy CJ li 109 Kimerer, Stephan Kansas State FW Cornell University HK li 312 Santmyer, Katie Kansas State GZ Oklahoma KW li 200 Dipiazza, Philip Liberty University AJ Towson AI li 116 Rubino, Kathryn Liberty University BP Fordham/Rutgers PJ li 015 Ayers, Nick Missouri-kansas City BB U.s. Military Academy AE li 107 Khan, Buddy Missouri-kansas City JS Texas San Antonio LT li 209 Cleary, Conor New School (the) AD Macalester FF li 305 Girouard, Mike New School (the) AS Towson EM li 111 Harlow, Megan New School (the) IP Miami (florida) FR li 216 Colston, Nicole Oklahoma BD Pittsburgh HK li 213 Hanson, Kenny Oklahoma BZ Texas San Antonio CK li 2006 Baker, William Oklahoma DE John Carroll Univers BM li 212 Steinberg, David Oklahoma KT Fordham University CN li 315 Goss, Judy Rochester GY Towson FK li 112 Cherian, Asha Towson JV Cornell University KL li 313 Register, David Towson OV U.s. Military Academy EX li 110 Gordon, Malcolm U.s. Military Academy CT Oklahoma NT li 214 Keenan, Vik Vermont LR Western Connecticut SW li 309 Cooper, Deven *JV Ballots in Linthicum, Novice Ballots In Psych* Junior Varsity/novice Nationals at Towso -- Novice Nationals 3/7/2009 through 3/9/2009 SCHEDULE FOR ROUND 1 -- START TIME: 8:30 Binghamton DH Western Connecticut BS py 312 Terkowitz, Jeff Binghamton JT James Madison DP hh 017 Kelsie, Amber City University Ny AZ Vermont MR py 300 Solloway, Tyler Cornell University LM Southern Methodist Un MV py 208 Oh, Michelle George Mason Univers MS Liberty University DT li 009 Rodriguez, Sebas Georgia State LM Binghamton CF py 308 Deck, Ricky James Madison AW U.s. Military Academy MR hh 018 Gartman, Jake Liberty University AE Western Connecticut GG py 407 John-toussaint, Liberty University AH Vermont BG py 302 Passantino, Andr Liberty University CD John Carroll Univers NV py 205 Paqueo, Niccolo Louisiana-lafayette BM Liberty University KT li 011 Ford, Ryan Louisiana-lafayette SW Rochester FS py 304 Stevens, Casey Miami (florida) MR City University Ny IJ sm 508 Bako, Tom New School (the) EO West Virginia Univer PZ hh027 Brickus, Iman New School (the) FZ City University Ny CF sm 570 Godbey, Samantha Rochester CW Umass-amherst GW py 507 Martin, Shauntri Rochester MR City University Ny CR sm 514 Gaskell, Liz U.s. Military Academy BK Miami (florida) HR li 008 Lind, Stephen U.s. Military Academy HI Cornell University EK sm 506 Bach, Ryan U.s. Naval Academy BS Towson MN li 003 Bender, Cole U.s. Naval Academy ES John Carroll Univers JW py 202 Barnes (williams Umass-amherst LW Liberty University LT py 122 Kelsie, Amber West Virginia Univer CP Rochester MW py 306 Halley, Cale Western Connecticut VV U.s. Military Academy DH hh 021 Povazhuk, Dima *JV Ballots in Linthicum, Novice Ballots In Psych* Junior Varsity/novice Nationals at Towso -- Junior Varsity 3/7/2009 through 3/9/2009 SCHEDULE FOR ROUND 2 -- START TIME: 11:00 Binghamton TT Oklahoma KT li 315 Khan, Buddy Cornell University HK Oklahoma DE li 212 Stark, Michael Cornell University KL George Mason Univers JL li 311 Hanson, Kenny Fordham University CN Binghamton BS li 310 Bonneau, Scott Fordham/Rutgers PJ New School (the) AD li 305 Rubino, Kathryn John Carroll Univers BM Kansas State DR li 109 Gordon, Malcolm Liberty University FH Oklahoma BZ li 2006 Cooper, Deven Liberty University GT New School (the) AS li 111 Baxter-kauf, Mik Louisiana-lafayette PS Binghamton GS li 314 Paqueo, Niccolo Macalester FF Liberty University BP li 015 Cleary, Conor Miami (florida) FR Missouri-kansas City BB li 107 Lind, Stephen Oklahoma KW Kansas State FW li 312 Martin, Shauntri Oklahoma NT New School (the) IP li 216 Marty, Jillian Pittsburgh HK U.s. Military Academy CT li 214 Mccaffrey, Kenny Texas San Antonio CK Towson OV li 110 Nielson, Toni Texas San Antonio LT Vermont LR li 309 Girouard, Mike Towson AI Missouri-kansas City JS li 209 Dipiazza, Philip Towson EM James Madison ES li 210 Bender, Cole Towson FK Liberty University AJ li 116 Register, David U.s. Military Academy AE Kansas State GZ li 200 Terkowitz, Jeff U.s. Military Academy CJ Towson JV li 313 Keenan, Vik U.s. Military Academy EX Fordham University AS li 013 Godbey, Samantha Umass-amherst DG Csu Fullerton CP li 317 Cherian, Asha Umass-amherst RB Rochester GY li 112 John-toussaint, Western Connecticut SW Oklahoma BD li 213 Goss, Judy Lunch After this Debate Junior Varsity/novice Nationals at Towso -- Novice Nationals 3/7/2009 through 3/9/2009 SCHEDULE FOR ROUND 2 -- START TIME: 11:00 Binghamton CF Louisiana-lafayette SW py 304 Halley, Cale City University Ny CF Binghamton JT hh 017 Harlow, Megan City University Ny CR Cornell University LM py 208 Colston, Nicole City University Ny IJ New School (the) FZ sm 570 Gartman, Jake Cornell University EK Binghamton DH py 312 Gaskell, Liz James Madison DP New School (the) EO hh027 Stevens, Casey John Carroll Univers JW Rochester MR sm 514 Baron, Chris John Carroll Univers NV Liberty University AE py 407 Passantino, Andr Liberty University DT U.s. Naval Academy BS li 003 Ayers, Nick Liberty University KT George Mason Univers MS li 009 Sheldon, Casey Liberty University LT James Madison AW hh 018 Skinner, Beth Miami (florida) HR Liberty University CD py 205 Sciullo, Nick Rochester FS Western Connecticut VV hh 021 Thomas, Chris Rochester MW City University Ny AZ py 300 Love, Dayvon Southern Methodist Un MV Louisiana-lafayette BM li 011 Montano, Frank Towson MN Umass-amherst LW py 122 Fletcher, Brady U.s. Military Academy DH Rochester CW py 507 Kimerer, Stephan U.s. Military Academy MR U.s. Naval Academy ES py 202 Deck, Ricky Umass-amherst GW West Virginia Univer CP py 306 Brickus, Iman Vermont BG Miami (florida) MR sm 508 Bach, Ryan Vermont MR U.s. Military Academy HI sm 506 Povazhuk, Dima West Virginia Univer PZ U.s. 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Grady CD (Holden Choi & Ben Dean) Marist MR (Sarah Monghan & Marco Roca) Marist MS (Andres Marcuse-Gonzales & Grace Starling) Milton AA (Howie Akumiah & Heather Akumiah) Montgomery Bell HC (Kelly Haselton & Will Brooks) Westminster Schools PW (Rahul Patel & Robel Worku) Woodward Academy SS (Jason Sigalos & Rahim Shakoor) Round Start: 8:00 am. Pairings: 7:00 am. Remember daylight savings means we lose an hour tonight. Casey -- Casey Harrigan Associate Director of Debate University of Georgia 123 Terrell Hall Athens, GA 30605 (o) 706 542 9420 (c) 706 207 4753 harrigan at uga.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090307/12b16a86/attachment.htm From sac36967 at saclink.csus.edu Sat Mar 7 22:35:33 2009 From: sac36967 at saclink.csus.edu (Tudor, Kristen H) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 20:35:33 -0800 Subject: [eDebate] Sac State Breaks Message-ID: <33DF852C3535A3409897ACAA0EE6DE912C8D18920E@VSL3.saclink.csus.edu> The following novice teams have advanced to quarterfinals: Cal Poly SLO FT CSU Fullerton KS CSU Sacramento HH CSU Sacramento HM East Los Angeles NP Folsom Lake College LS San Francisco State BS San Francisco State MO JV Sems: Arizona State MW Cal Poly SLO GY CSU Sacramento PW Los Rios BK We will need every single judge for the 9am rounds. Don't forget to spring forward tonight (set you clock forward one hour). Plenty of strong coffee will be ready for you when we post at 8am. From davismk13 at gmail.com Sun Mar 8 06:51:33 2009 From: davismk13 at gmail.com (Mike Davis) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 07:51:33 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Towson Rd 5 Message-ID: <9a7f6f740903080451te828d93g2c2d9c8bf12fd993@mail.gmail.com> Junior Varsity/novice Nationals at Towso -- Junior Varsity Nationa Baltimore College Debate 3/7/2009 through 3/9/2009 SCHEDULE FOR ROUND 5 -- START TIME: 8:30 Cornell University KL Vermont LR li 310 Miller, Gordie Csu Fullerton CP Pittsburgh HK li 015 Sciullo, Nick Fordham University CN U.s. Military Academy CT li 116 Godbey, Samantha Fordham/Rutgers PJ Binghamton BS li 210 Register, David George Mason Univers JL Texas San Antonio LT li 008 Davis, Stephen James Madison ES New School (the) IP li 216 Maffie, Mike Kansas State FW Towson OV li 200 Massey, Jackie Liberty University GT John Carroll Univers BM li 312 Cleary, Conor Louisiana-lafayette PS Liberty University AJ li 311 Baxter-kauf, Mik Macalester FF Kansas State GZ li 317 Webster, Christy Missouri-kansas City BB Liberty University FH li 111 Johnson, Ken New School (the) AD Binghamton GS li 112 Harlow, Megan New School (the) AS Fordham/NYU AS li 315 Khan, Buddy Oklahoma BD Miami (florida) FR li 109 Bonneau, Scott Oklahoma DE Rochester GY li 309 Marty, Jillian Oklahoma KT Liberty University BP li 110 Gordon, Malcolm Oklahoma NT Umass-amherst DG li 107 Snider, Sarah Texas San Antonio CK U.s. Military Academy CJ li 313 Stevens, Casey Towson EM Kansas State DR li 213 Nielson, Toni Towson FK Cornell University HK li 214 Rubino, Kathryn Towson JV Binghamton TT li 2006 Dipiazza, Philip U.s. Military Academy AE Oklahoma BZ li 212 Girouard, Mike U.s. Military Academy EX Oklahoma KW li 305 Keenan, Vik Umass-amherst RB Towson AI li 314 Oh, Michelle Western Connecticut SW Missouri-kansas City JS li 013 Love, Dayvon Junior Varsity/novice Nationals at Towso -- Novice Nationals Baltimore College Debate 3/7/2009 through 3/9/2009 SCHEDULE FOR ROUND 5 -- START TIME: 8:30 Binghamton CF Liberty University AE sm 570 Paqueo, Niccolo Binghamton DH Liberty University LT hh 018 Mannino, Piero James Madison AW U.s. Military Academy DH sm 508 Verney-o'gorma, James Madison MP City University Ny CR py 302 Montee, Andy John Carroll Univers NV West Virginia Univer CP py 308 Green, Rj Liberty University AH Rochester MR py 306 Hanson, Kenny Liberty University CD U.s. Military Academy HI sm 506 Deck, Ricky Liberty University KT U.s. Naval Academy ES py 122 Ayers, Nick Louisiana-lafayette BM Rochester FS li 003 Stark, Michael Louisiana-lafayette SW Cornell University LM py 304 Kelsie, Amber Miami (florida) MR City University Ny AZ li 209 Passantino, Andr New School (the) EO George Mason Univers MS py 205 Bako, Tom New School (the) FZ U.s. Naval Academy BS hh 021 Steinberg, David Southern Methodist Un MV City University Ny CF py 407 Militaru, Andree U.s. Military Academy BK Liberty University DT hh 017 Baker, William U.s. Military Academy MR Rochester CW li 009 Thomas, Chris Umass-amherst LW Cornell University EK li 011 Colston, Nicole Umass-amherst RW John Carroll Univers JW sm 514 Fletcher, Brady Vermont BG Georgia State LM hh027 Mccaffrey, Kenny Vermont MR Towson MN py 202 Risko, Guy West Virginia Univer PZ Binghamton JT py 208 Povazhuk, Dima Western Connecticut BS City University Ny IJ py 507 Cooper, Deven Western Connecticut GF Rochester MW py 300 Baron, Chris Western Connecticut VV Miami (florida) HR py 312 Bach, Ryan -- Dr. Michael Davis Director of Debate/Assistant Professor James Madison University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090308/de145f17/attachment.htm From davismk13 at gmail.com Sun Mar 8 10:28:39 2009 From: davismk13 at gmail.com (Mike Davis) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:28:39 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Towson - Round 6 Message-ID: <9a7f6f740903080828y64aa904fo53cd884d79241701@mail.gmail.com> Junior Varsity/novice Nationals at Towso -- Novice Nationals Baltimore College Debate 3/7/2009 through 3/9/2009 SCHEDULE FOR ROUND 6 -- START TIME: 12:15 Binghamton JT Liberty University AH py 306 Paqueo, Niccolo City University Ny AZ New School (the) FZ hh 021 Santmyer, Katie City University Ny CF Miami (florida) MR li 209 Ayers, Nick City University Ny CR Binghamton DH hh 018 Hall, Heather City University Ny IJ New School (the) EO py 205 Marty, Jillian Cornell University EK Binghamton CF sm 570 Baxter-kauf, Mik Cornell University LM Vermont MR py 202 Stark, Michael George Mason Univers MS Vermont BG hh027 Cooper, Deven Georgia State LM Liberty University CD sm 506 Webster, Christy John Carroll Univers JW Southern Methodist Un MV py 407 John-toussaint, Liberty University AE U.s. Military Academy BK hh 017 Rodriguez, Sebas Liberty University DT John Carroll Univers NV py 308 Khan, Buddy Liberty University LT Louisiana-lafayette BM li 003 Sheldon, Casey Miami (florida) HR James Madison MP py 302 Ryan, Nick Rochester CW Western Connecticut GF py 300 Snider, Sarah Rochester FS Umass-amherst LW li 011 Martin, Shauntri Rochester MR U.s. Military Academy MR li 009 Povazhuk, Dima Rochester MW Liberty University KT py 122 Steinberg, David Towson MN James Madison AW sm 508 Kelsie, Amber U.s. Military Academy DH West Virginia Univer PZ py 208 Bach, Ryan U.s. Military Academy HI Western Connecticut BS py 507 Mcdaniel, Mylind U.s. Naval Academy BS Western Connecticut VV py 312 Brosnan, Andy U.s. Naval Academy ES Umass-amherst RW sm 514 Keenan, Vik West Virginia Univer CP Louisiana-lafayette SW py 304 Voth, Ben Junior Varsity/novice Nationals at Towso -- Junior Varsity Nationa Baltimore College Debate 3/7/2009 through 3/9/2009 SCHEDULE FOR ROUND 6 -- START TIME: 12:15 Binghamton BS U.s. Military Academy EX li 305 Oh, Michelle Binghamton GS Missouri-kansas City BB li 111 Cleary, Conor Binghamton TT Kansas State FW li 200 Register, David Cornell University HK New School (the) AD li 112 Berch, Neil Fordham/NYU AS Macalester FF li 317 Passantino, Andr John Carroll Univers BM Oklahoma BD li 109 Risko, Guy Kansas State DR Oklahoma KT li 110 Girouard, Mike Kansas State GZ Oklahoma NT li 107 Hanson, Kenny Liberty University AJ Fordham University CN li 116 Gaskell, Liz Liberty University BP George Mason Univers JL li 008 Elliott, Scott Liberty University FH James Madison ES li 216 Baron, Chris Miami (florida) FR Texas San Antonio CK li 313 Davis, Stephen Missouri-kansas City JS Towson FK li 214 Bender, Cole New School (the) IP Fordham/Rutgers PJ li 210 Fletcher, Brady Oklahoma BZ Cornell University KL li 310 Godbey, Samantha Oklahoma KW Umass-amherst RB li 314 Wilcox, Wynn Pittsburgh HK Louisiana-lafayette PS li 311 Harlow, Megan Rochester GY Western Connecticut SW li 013 Kimerer, Stephan Texas San Antonio LT Towson EM li 213 Stevens, Casey Towson AI U.s. Military Academy AE li 212 Halydier, Garret Towson OV Liberty University GT li 312 Rubino, Kathryn U.s. Military Academy CJ Csu Fullerton CP li 015 Lind, Stephen U.s. Military Academy CT New School (the) AS li 315 Terkowitz, Jeff Umass-amherst DG Towson JV li 2006 Gordon, Malcolm Vermont LR Oklahoma DE li 309 Baker, William -- Dr. Michael Davis Director of Debate/Assistant Professor James Madison University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090308/204eadbe/attachment.htm From cameron.t.norris at vanderbilt.edu Sun Mar 8 14:24:12 2009 From: cameron.t.norris at vanderbilt.edu (Cameron T. Norris) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:24:12 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Wayne State PP Cite Request Message-ID: <3bf818490903081224u2e8efe5ax42728d4bcae16339@mail.gmail.com> Backchannel me please. -- Cameron Norris President -- Vanderbilt College Republicans cameron.t.norris at vanderbilt.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090308/b0b51bd8/attachment.htm From davismk13 at gmail.com Sun Mar 8 14:27:31 2009 From: davismk13 at gmail.com (Mike Davis) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:27:31 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Towson - Round 7 Message-ID: <9a7f6f740903081227l34f94e3em1800a79c30010cc4@mail.gmail.com> Junior Varsity/novice Nationals at Towso -- Novice Nationals Baltimore College Debate 3/7/2009 through 3/9/2009 SCHEDULE FOR ROUND 7 -- START TIME: 4:15 Binghamton CF U.s. Naval Academy BS py 312 Halydier, Garret Binghamton DH Rochester FS li 011 Harlow, Megan City University Ny CR Rochester CW py 300 Marty, Jillian City University Ny IJ James Madison AW sm 508 Knops, Jen Cornell University EK U.s. Military Academy BK hh 017 Wilcox, Wynn George Mason Univers MS U.s. Naval Academy ES sm 514 Brosnan, Andy John Carroll Univers JW City University Ny CF li 113 Elliott, Scott Liberty University AE U.s. Military Academy DH py 208 Baker, William Liberty University CD Vermont MR py 202 Gartman, Jake Liberty University DT U.s. Military Academy MR li 009 Green, Rj Liberty University LT Cornell University LM hh 018 Paqueo, Niccolo Louisiana-lafayette SW Western Connecticut BS py 507 Shelton, Kurt Miami (florida) HR Vermont BG hh027 Cherian, Asha Miami (florida) MR Western Connecticut GF li 209 Kelsie, Amber New School (the) FZ Southern Methodist Un MV py 407 Martin, Shauntri Rochester MR Louisiana-lafayette BM li 003 Rubino, Kathryn Rochester MW John Carroll Univers NV py 308 Cleary, Conor Towson MN Liberty University AH py 306 Packer, Joe U.s. Military Academy HI Georgia State LM sm 506 Keenan, Vik Umass-amherst LW City University Ny AZ hh 021 Brickus, Iman Umass-amherst RW New School (the) EO py 205 Maffie, Mike West Virginia Univer CP Binghamton JT py 304 Hall, Heather West Virginia Univer PZ Liberty University KT py 122 Deck, Ricky Western Connecticut VV James Madison MP py 302 Gaskell, Liz Junior Varsity/novice Nationals at Towso -- Junior Varsity Nationa Baltimore College Debate 3/7/2009 through 3/9/2009 SCHEDULE FOR ROUND 7 -- START TIME: 4:15 Binghamton TT New School (the) AD li 112 Webster, Christy Cornell University KL Binghamton BS li 317 Lind, Stephen Fordham University CN Louisiana-lafayette PS li 311 Kimerer, Stephan Fordham/NYU AS Oklahoma KW li 314 Stark, Michael Fordham/Rutgers PJ James Madison ES li 216 Stevens, Casey John Carroll Univers BM Towson OV li 312 Miller, Gordie Kansas State FW Vermont LR li 309 Nielson, Toni Liberty University BP New School (the) IP li 210 Girouard, Mike Liberty University GT Oklahoma BZ li 310 Hanson, Kenny Macalester FF Liberty University AJ li 116 Rodriguez, Sebas Miami (florida) FR Csu Fullerton CP li 015 Bender, Cole Missouri-kansas City JS Kansas State DR li 110 Cooper, Deven New School (the) AS George Mason Univers JL li 008 Snider, Sarah Oklahoma BD Texas San Antonio LT li 213 Gordon, Malcolm Oklahoma DE Missouri-kansas City BB li 111 Baxter-kauf, Mik Oklahoma KT Cornell University HK li 200 Sciullo, Nick Oklahoma NT Towson FK li 214 Risko, Guy Pittsburgh HK Liberty University FH li 313 Davis, Stephen Rochester GY Towson JV li 2006 Nelson, Sam Texas San Antonio CK U.s. Military Academy CT li 315 Passantino, Andr Towson EM Kansas State GZ li 107 Godbey, Samantha U.s. Military Academy AE Western Connecticut SW li 013 Mcdaniel, Mylind U.s. Military Academy CJ Towson AI li 212 Ford, Ryan U.s. Military Academy EX Umass-amherst RB li 305 Santmyer, Katie Umass-amherst DG Binghamton GS li 109 Fletcher, Brady -- Dr. Michael Davis Director of Debate/Assistant Professor James Madison University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090308/380c697e/attachment.htm From repkowil at msu.edu Sun Mar 8 18:20:27 2009 From: repkowil at msu.edu (repkowil at msu.edu) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:20:27 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Frosh-Soph Nats -- Octafinal pairings and bracket Message-ID: <20090308192027.45366tywnus30iwr@mail.msu.edu> Octafinals in 2NC prep as I type. Two teams received byes: 1. MSU LM (Eric Lanning and Ben Mehling) 2. Wake BS (Fransisco Bencosme & Ryan Stevens) Octas: ------------------- (3) Kansas KK (Patrick & Sean Kennedy) v. (14) MSU BM (Meghan Barrette & Josh Miller) Panel: E. Brennan, M. Castle, D. Cram-Helwich -------------------- (4) Minnesota CH (Logan Chin & Arif Hassan)? v. (13) Michigan SS (Bala Sekaran & Matt Sienkiewicz) Panel: J. Durkee, Gonzo, W. Repko ------------------- (5) Georgetown HZ (Dorothy Hector & Lucy Zhu v. (12) Wayne KS (Amrit Kamboj & Harry Singh) Panel: R. Andre, D. Keenan, J. Hoe ------------------ (6) Emory GH (Kirk Gibson & James Hamraie) v. (11) MSU KM (Sara Kirsch & Katie Klante) Panel: Brandy Johnson, J. Paul, B. Warner ----------------- (7) Emory MS (Scott Movens & Megan Swenson) v. (10) Emory BP (Stephen Bomze & Anuj Panday) ---------------- (8) Michigan CG (Parker Cronin & Alan Gocha) v. (9) Kansas PW (Matthew Petersen & Mark Wilkins) Panel: E. Lee, G. Murillo, D.Strauss --------------- Will post speakers and octa results after awards. Best, Will -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090308/7641dab9/attachment.htm From davismk13 at gmail.com Sun Mar 8 22:12:05 2009 From: davismk13 at gmail.com (Mike Davis) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 23:12:05 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Towson Judges for the Morning Message-ID: <9a7f6f740903082012p9274ea3s910aa67f39ddefbc@mail.gmail.com> Pairings are at 7:00 and Round starts at 8:00. All judges are obligated and if you are not this list you are on standby. Bach Baker Barnes, A. Baxter-Kauf Bender Berch Cleary Colston Davis, S. Dipiazza Fletcher Gartman Girouard Godbey Gordon Green Johnson Hall, H. Halley Hanson Keenan Khan Knops Maffie Mannino Marty Miller Nelson Nielson Packer Paqueo Povazhuk Register Risko Rodriguez Rubino Ryan Stark Webster -- Dr. Michael Davis Director of Debate/Assistant Professor James Madison University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090308/0cc8987b/attachment.htm From repkowil at msu.edu Sun Mar 8 22:17:44 2009 From: repkowil at msu.edu (repkowil at msu.edu) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:17:44 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Frosh-Soph Nats -- Octa Results and speaker awards Message-ID: <20090308231744.34886d8wcaj31jyw@mail.msu.edu> Top Ten Speakers: 10. Aakash Gupta, Michigan 9.? Dorothy Hector, Georgetown 8.? Kirk Gibson, Emory 7.? Sean Kennedy, Kansas 6.? Megan Swenson, Emory 5.? James Hamraie, Emory 4.? Parker Cronin, Michigan 3.? Ryan Stevens, Wake Forest 2.? Eric Lanning, Michigan State 1. Lucy Zhu, Georgetown Octa Results (full student names appear in the previous post): (3) Kansas KK (Neg) def. MSU BM, 3-0 (4) Minnesota CH (Aff) def Michigan SS, 3-0 (5) Georgetown HZ (Neg) def. Wayne State KS, 3-0 (11) MSU KK (Aff) def. Emory GH, 2-1 (7) Emory MS advances over Emory BP (9) Kansas PW (Aff) def. Michigan CG, 3-0.... Strauss votes aff. Thus -- tomorrow morning: MSU EL v. Kansas PW Wake BS v. Emory MS Kansas KK v. MSU KK Minnesota CH v. Georgetown CH ... take it easy.... -- Will -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090308/46abe239/attachment.htm From alfred.snider at uvm.edu Sun Mar 8 23:07:35 2009 From: alfred.snider at uvm.edu (Alfred Snider) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:07:35 +0300 Subject: [eDebate] TOWSON breaks? Message-ID: <49B49607.1010506@uvm.edu> Hello from Qatar. I am here doing teacher and student workshops. I had kind of hoped to have elim breaks, but all we got wedre round 7 and elim judges. I assume breaking teams have been announced. How about a list, please, for those who care and are far away. Mike? Tuna -- Alfred C. 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Are you telling me no one in his administration has suggested the possibility of suspending mark to market? Are they that miserable and clueless? Or do they have another agenda? here's Forbes opinion last Friday. ttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB123630304198047321.html yes, there is now an enormous amount of bad mortgage debt but in the 80s and 90s there was an enormous amount of bad third world debt with no crisis of this magnitude because FDR's suspension of mark to market accounting remained in place. Bush reinstated mark to market in 2007 and Obama is either completely stupid or using the negative effects to accomplish his own ends. _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm not so sure its that simple. I definitely disagree that ignorance or a secret bank nationalization agenda are the only reasons not to suspend mark to market. I'm also not sure I agree with your claim that this is a "Bush Policy" although SAFS 157, which I'm pretty sure your post is about, did go into force during W's Presidency, When you say mark to market "spirals economic downturns" I think that language might be a bit loaded, and "destroys banks" definitely is. I think everyone can agree mark to market is "pro-cyclic", meaning it magnifies changes in asset valuation on both ends of the spectrum. No one generally complains when this drives asset values up. As for spiraling downturns, I think that may ignore attempts to differentiate between healthy and ailing markets as the SEC has done recently: "Fair value assumes the exchange of assets or liabilities in orderly transactions. Under SFAS 157, it is appropriate for you to consider actual market prices, or observable inputs, even when the market is less liquid than historical market volumes, unless those prices are the result of a forced liquidation or distress sale." In fact critics of this opinion letter feel that it already goes too far in allowing companies to ignore the market valuation of assets. Which brings us to another possible reason besides ignorance or a secret agenda not to suspend mark to market. Proper asset valuation. For example, say my dad has 20 dollars to give his kids for allowance for the week, 10 for me and 10 for my brother. He invests the whole $20 in my lemonade stand, and all the other kids in the neighborhood get 20 from their parents for their own stand. Then, before getting any revenue, all the kids get bored and proceed to abandon everything on the side of the road so it spoils and has to be thrown away. Dad then tries to sell his $20 "share" to another neighbor. They won't buy it. All the parents in the neighborhood try to sell, for pennies on the dollar. Most can't even sell at all. No one is buying. So, marked to the market, the value of their investment is zero. Now my brother wants his $10 allowance. How can my dad pay him the allowance when he squandered it foolishly "investing" in my worthless lemonade stand? I know!!! Let's let him suspend mark to market. That way he can pretend like his investment is still worth (hmm lets make a number up) 10$, just what he owes. Now can he pay? No! Now this little accounting gimmick may improve his net worth by $10, but it didn't give him $10 for my brother?s allowance and it didn't change the fact that all $20 is gone and his investment is completely worthless. Marking to market did accurately value the asset, rather than cover up the problem with a lie. So, maybe that?s not the best analogy, and maybe the troubled asset values in our economy aren?t exactly zero or even as low as the market suggests, but I hope it makes the point that the real crisis is not due to what fictitious value we do or do not place on an asset, its due to a massive destruction of value that suspending mark to market won?t solve. I'm willing to acknowledge that some suspension or modification of mark to market might be a part of the solution, but I would hardly put it in the no brainer category your post seems to. Jud P.S. If you are willing to entertain any legitimate reasons for not suspending mark to market, some are discussed in: Report and Recommendations Pursuant to Section 133 of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008: Study on Mark-To-Market Accounting OFFICE OF THE CHIEF ACCOUNTANT DIVISION OF CORPORATION FINANCE UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION ************************************************************ Old Strega oldstrega at hotmail.com Mon Mar 9 10:48:14 CDT 2009 It's a bush 2007 policy that was the major factor in the credit collapse. FDR suspended mark to market in 1938 for the reason that it unnecessarily destroys banks. The bailout will either not work or work slower if mark to market is not suspended. The question is: why does Obama not change this bush policy? 1) Ignorance. He does not know the history of mark to market and why it spirals economic downturns. or 2) Nationalization is the goal. If Obama suspends mark to market, a no cost solution bottoms out the recession. i thought Obama was going to form a team of rivals and get information from multiple perspectives in the spirit of policy experimentation. Are you telling me no one in his administration has suggested the possibility of suspending mark to market? Are they that miserable and clueless? Or do they have another agenda? here's Forbes opinion last Friday. ttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB123630304198047321.html yes, there is now an enormous amount of bad mortgage debt but in the 80s and 90s there was an enormous amount of bad third world debt with no crisis of this magnitude because FDR's suspension of mark to market accounting remained in place. Bush reinstated mark to market in 2007 and Obama is either completely stupid or using the negative effects to accomplish his own ends. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090309/b477f153/attachment.htm From repkowil at msu.edu Mon Mar 9 17:27:45 2009 From: repkowil at msu.edu (repkowil at msu.edu) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:27:45 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Frosh-Soph Nationals -- FInal Round Result Message-ID: <20090309182745.17275epa0oqk34yp@mail.msu.edu> Kansas KK (Aff) def. Georgetown HZ (Neg), 3-0. Panel: J. Gonzalez, D. Keenan, G. Murillo Congratulations to Sean & Patrick Kennedy, as well as Dorothy Hector & Lucy Zhu. Both teams had an impressive weekend. Special thanks to Greta -- who runs the tab, organizes all logistics, and pulls-off a host of thankless tasks. The tourney could not happen without her. ... all for now... 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Message-ID: Some might find this interesting: http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/district-of-columbia/dcdce/1:2008cv02254/134576/21/ Logan Martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090309/e79de807/attachment.htm From andy.edebate at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 22:11:58 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:11:58 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Jv Nov nats Message-ID: <9368bc9b0903092011g19f34d71xb34167b6545d729d@mail.gmail.com> Congrats to ksu and jmu wireless doesn't work at hotel will post results 2moro -- Sent from my mobile device From lacyjp at wfu.edu Mon Mar 9 23:21:21 2009 From: lacyjp at wfu.edu (JP Lacy) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:21:21 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] New Aff? Pre round disclosure? In-Reply-To: <17bee7eb0901220536g24d3baddm4da724a86f31ed39@mail.gmail.com> References: <796869.53609.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49781548.5080501@wfu.edu> <17bee7eb0901220536g24d3baddm4da724a86f31ed39@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B5EAC1.1060108@wfu.edu> I figure now is a good time to clarify (or alter) my previous comments. CEDA & the NDT are coming up. Those tournaments have the highest risk of disputes over disclosure. My earlier post on the issue sounded like "disclose what you'd expect, I expect people to cheat." That expectation does not apply to any disclosure by Wake. I don't expect us to cheat. I don't expect us to disclose "new advantage" if we only change a few cards. I don't expect us to say "new plan" if the alterations are purely cosmetic. I don't expect us to alter our plan unless we notify the opposition "there may be changes." I don't expect us to read a new advantage unless we say "new advantage coming." More importantly, that "I expect cheating" comment only applies to *me.* No, *I* won't be upset with you if you "audible" out of an advantage you realize we're going to impact turn while you're delivering the 1ac. No, *I* don't expect you to read the exact plan you disclose if a similar "audible" situation arises. I do expect you to read what you disclose & to change that disclosure if you change your mind *before* the round starts. To me, genuine *in round* changes should be allowed. *Others people,* including our debaters & coaching staff, may rightly be upset with you if you disclose improperly. I've blown far too many gaskets over disclosure. Yes, unfair disclosure is wrong. Yes, dishonesty is hurtful. Yes, it is incredibly disappointing. But, it isn't worth my anger. Not anymore, not yet. I still hope that teams disclose what they'd expect themselves. Obviously, this does not diminish my own expectations for myself or teams I coach. We still plan to disclose what we honestly expect on the other side. --JP Richard A. Garner wrote: > Gonna have to disagree w/ JP here: > > Honestly, I take all pre-coinflip disclosure with a grain of salt. I > don't expect the aff to read the plan text they disclose. I expect > them > to think a move or two ahead to avoid the latest, best negative > strategy. > > That's actually sounds like fairly text-book cheating to me. Aff: > discloses plan (etc). Neg: preps for an hour. Aff reads: new plan > (etc). That = cheating. Yes a debate is always evolving, but you have > to specify the grey areas, at least, or SAY EXPLICITLY the plan might > change, etc., so the neg. can include in their preround prep the > necessity of flexibility. > > As to PJ's comment, I think he doesn't so much care about changing the > plan text as he cares about people taking to too much advantage of > cosmetic changes. Here, again, the grey area specification seems to solve. > > RG > > > Paul Johnson wrote: > > Also, on a related note: > > > > can we make it a sort of community norm that you not just change > the plan in a cosmetic, immaterial way just so you can say "new > plan" before a debate? we have no way to enforce this, of course. > but its just a dick move, and pretty much bush league. so how > about we not do it? > > > > Thanks, > > Paul Johnson > > > > > > --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Richard A. Garner > wrote: > > > > > >> From: Richard A. Garner > > >> Subject: Re: [eDebate] New Aff? Pre round disclosure? > >> To: edebate at ndtceda.com > >> Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 9:28 PM > >> 1. You can only hedge in very narrow situations, i.e., if > >> it's the loser's > >> choice (we'll go negative if you run your X aff or > >> we'll go aff. and run a > >> new aff.) ... maybe; subject to #2. > >> > >> 2. You have to say new aff or specify old aff (and which, > >> plan, advantages, > >> etc) before the flip; a team needs to prep new aff > >> strategies, generally, > >> and a team you're flipping against (i.e., in an > >> elimination round) probably > >> requires you to prep for their old aff, too, anyway. If you > >> call new aff., > >> you have to run one. > >> > >> 3a. If someone on your team has run the same commodity, but > >> its a > >> substantially different aff. (substantially = 90%; here, > >> that 10% percent > >> might be 'fish prices low'), then "new > >> aff" is fine...maybe. > >> 3b. If its mostly different, but not totally, tough call. I > >> say, "Fish with > >> Japanese relations old advantage, the rest is new". > >> People specify that > >> someone on the team has run an aff because it's new to > >> them, but they sort > >> of deserve to break it as a "new aff" if it's > >> _their_ new version/research. > >> 3c. Last year Harvard had a new aff at the NDT which > >> consisted of a new plan > >> text, and a new advantage. The country was still Iran, with > >> one (two?) new > >> advantages stemming from the new plan text, and one (two?) > >> old advantages > >> that the new plan still solved. Disclosure was "new > >> aff, still Iran, still > >> proliferation, the rest is new," or something like > >> that. > >> 3d. When the topic writes the plan text, new advantages or > >> plan changes are > >> essentially new affs. The conception of what a "new > >> aff" is seems to have > >> been outpaced by events. However, it's still a new aff > >> for that team even if > >> someone else has run it somewhere else (so, wheat is still > >> a new aff. to > >> everyone else in the country except UNT and whoever else > >> has run it). > >> > >> RG > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Kris Willis > >> >wrote: > >> > >> > >>> We found ourselves in this situation recently. We > >>> > >> initially said we had > >> > >>> both a new and existing aff we could read, lost the > >>> > >> toss, and then decided > >> > >>> to read the current (Not New One) and disclosed. > >>> My preference would be a community that doesn't > >>> > >> have to disclose the "new > >> > >>> aff" but one that would at least commit to > >>> > >> reading a new or existing one. > >> > >>> My one recognition would be that if we were the > >>> > >> negative, we would prep the > >> > >>> old aff anyway so it might not make much difference. > >>> But I would prefer that one team not have potentially > >>> > >> even more leverage in > >> > >>> a flip situation or dare I say, even fake a new > >>> > >> affirmative to try and get > >> > >>> the other team to chose to read their own affirmative. > >>> Kris > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> From: debate at ou.edu > >>>> To: edebate at ndtceda.com > >>>> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:56:15 -0600 > >>>> Subject: [eDebate] New Aff? Pre round disclosure? > >>>> > >>>> I have a question and trying to find a community > >>>> > >> opinion. > >> > >>>> If one team wins the toss, how should these > >>>> > >> scenarios play out. > >> > >>>> Do you have to commit to an affirmative before > >>>> > >> the other team chooses > >> > >>> negative? > >>> > >>>> Is it okay to say > >>>> > >>>> We could run a new aff or an old aff. > >>>> > >>>> or do you have to say the exact affirmative you > >>>> > >> would run? > >> > >>>> > >>>> The key question, do you have to commit to a > >>>> > >> specific affirmative before > >> > >>> the other team chooses their side? Does that take away > >>> > >> the reciprocity the > >> > >>> team stuck with aff would have in relation to the coin > >>> > >> toss? > >> > >>>> peace > >>>> > >>>> jackie > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> eDebate mailing list > >>>> eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > >>>> http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > >>>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> Windows Live? Hotmail(R):?more than just e-mail. > >>> > >> Check it > >> > out. > >> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> eDebate mailing list > >>> eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > >>> http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> eDebate mailing list > >> eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > >> http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > eDebate mailing list > > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate From cramhelwich at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 23:56:07 2009 From: cramhelwich at gmail.com (David Cram Helwich) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:56:07 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] MSU thanks Message-ID: <52ace93c0903092156w6758f4a1qba660d861d1a05ce@mail.gmail.com> We had a great time--excellent judging and amenities, strong competition, and everything ran ON TIME (even the banquet Sunday night **despite** the presence of a durkee/gonzo/repko panel in the octas). The Gophers want to thank Greta, Will, and the rest of the Michigan State crew, and we encourage other folks to consider adding Frosh/Soph to their schedule next year. dch, eli, rogan, kernelreefer, jake, and katerbucket -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090309/c582b9ba/attachment.htm From lacyjp at wfu.edu Mon Mar 9 23:58:59 2009 From: lacyjp at wfu.edu (JP Lacy) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:58:59 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Fun With The Likert Scale Message-ID: <49B5F393.6050807@wfu.edu> Affirmatives should specify the subsidies their plan eliminates if asked in the CX of the 1ac: 1. Strongly disagree 2. Disagree 3. Neither agree or disagree 4. Agree 5. Strongly Agree Me? 5. Strongly Agree. --JP lacyjp at wfu.edu From jbhdb8 at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 00:11:21 2009 From: jbhdb8 at gmail.com (Josh) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:11:21 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] MSU thanks In-Reply-To: <52ace93c0903092156w6758f4a1qba660d861d1a05ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <52ace93c0903092156w6758f4a1qba660d861d1a05ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Agreed, thanks Spartans, Josh On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:56 AM, David Cram Helwich wrote: > We had a great time--excellent judging and amenities, strong competition, > and everything ran ON TIME (even the banquet Sunday night **despite** the > presence of a durkee/gonzo/repko panel in the octas). The Gophers want to > thank Greta, Will, and the rest of the Michigan State crew, and we encourage > other folks to consider adding Frosh/Soph to their schedule next year. > > dch, eli, rogan, kernelreefer, jake, and katerbucket > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090310/77b61ce1/attachment.htm From lacyjp at wfu.edu Tue Mar 10 00:23:57 2009 From: lacyjp at wfu.edu (JP Lacy) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:23:57 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] More Fun Re: Fun With The Likert Scale In-Reply-To: <49B5F393.6050807@wfu.edu> References: <49B5F393.6050807@wfu.edu> Message-ID: <49B5F96D.8060009@wfu.edu> In the interests of being "fair & balanced," two more questions: I'm interested in hearing the "not nearly all" PIC 1. Strongly disagree 2. Disagree 3. Neither agree or disagree 4. Agree 5. Strongly Agree Me? 5. Especially if it really isn't "Nearly All" Who cares about PICs? I still think the aff has to specify even if those PICs are bad 1. Strongly disagree 2. Disagree 3. Neither agree or disagree 4. Agree 5. Strongly Agree --JP lacyjp at wfu.edu JP Lacy wrote: > Affirmatives should specify the subsidies their plan eliminates if asked > in the CX of the 1ac: > > 1. Strongly disagree > 2. Disagree > 3. Neither agree or disagree > 4. Agree > 5. Strongly Agree > > > Me? 5. Strongly Agree. > > > --JP > lacyjp at wfu.edu > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > > > From antonucci23 at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 01:12:03 2009 From: antonucci23 at gmail.com (Michael Antonucci) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:12:03 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Disclosure Norms - Plea for Codification Message-ID: <4a71966c0903092312o53048aflc091197f4543fbed@mail.gmail.com> I'm not exactly sure of how disclosure norms in debate should work now. No one does, because we collectively refuse to write them down. Personally, I think that's misguided. Every rules dispute solidifies my conviction. Take some analogies from other musty corners of competitive nerd-dom. I shudder to imagine: - a chess game in which the clock increments are determind by "consensus" - a Magic the Gathering tournament in which appropriate sideboard constraints rest on what "seems cool" - a sixteen-hour Diplomacy game in which the mechanics of a convoy rest upon "the way I think we did it last time, maybe?" - a poker game in which such small but game-changing cheats as string-raising, fake mucks and "take-backs" are determined not by any actual rules, but by willingness to schmooze or browbeat other players Some of these examples probably sound unbearably nerdy to you. Some also probably sound familiar. In a very intense game that consumes the near-complete attention of a proto/para legal subculture, one should expect that ill-defined segments of the rules will produce ugliness at the worst, ongoing small irritations at the best. What did everyone expect would happen? Just codify the whole thing already. Figure out the rules by some process of consensus and write them down - or improve scouting and scrap the practice entirely. If you've ever been exasperated either by marginal disclosure practice or fights over disclosure, you should probably support moves in this direction. Pre-empts: "How can we possibly codify this? Having codified it, how can we enforce it?" There are a few options. I tend to think that if the community hammers out some sort of code - either on the list or in some committee meeting - everyone will be eager to adopt it, provided some ability to make modifications in response to new 'cheats' or workarounds. If someone writes it up, and an appropriate number of competitively prominent students and/or coaches sign off on it, I tend to think that's about what everyone will do. If ugliness persists, just codify the practice either through a professional organization or through tournament invitations. "Debate doesn't have a rulebook." Yes, it does. There's no rulebook for the argumentation that occurs within speeches, but many aspects of debate practice are explicitly codified, such as time constraints and schedules. No one can tell you what to say in your speeches, but people can tell you when and where to give those speeches, and some of the conditions under which they must occur if you wish to secure a ballot. P.S. Having said this, I don't think that a national championship is the appropriate vehicle for a test drive. This is more of a long-term gripe. -- Michael Antonucci Debate Coach Georgetown University Mobile: 617-838-3345 Office: 202-687-4079 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That said, there shouldn't be any need to create rules about disclosure and doing so would likely result in NFL type rules disputes which I am universally annoyed by. Only coaches really think that this type of disclosure mumbo-jumbo is particularly important; it's (or should be) telling that most debaters don't really care and think things are basically fine now. J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090310/a8a40681/attachment.htm From jrlyle at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 09:16:41 2009 From: jrlyle at gmail.com (James Lyle) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:16:41 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Still need ADA judging Message-ID: <25fd497f0903100716h584877b5q2a6851d785f5aa0c@mail.gmail.com> Clarion is still looking for some judging for ADA...if you like money, let me know. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090310/107f8440/attachment.htm From uwgdebate at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 10:02:57 2009 From: uwgdebate at gmail.com (michael hester) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:02:57 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Fun With The Likert Scale In-Reply-To: <49B5F393.6050807@wfu.edu> References: <49B5F393.6050807@wfu.edu> Message-ID: <2e0f7ba70903100802q27a660cdp5dda8ef38168a1ea@mail.gmail.com> lots of topics (in the past and this year) have read "one or more" or "and/or" when listing option for the aff plan to deal with. if a 1AC plan didn't specify those but merely repeated the resolution's broad/amorphous wording and the 2NC cx question was "So, which of these (commodities, nations, types of pressure on China, etc) does the plan deal with?" i think most/all of the judge pool would expect an answer from the 1AC. from that perspective, i'm not sure why "nearly all" is any different in terms of creating ground and education in the debate...other than the fact that such dodgy wording allows the AFF to avoid giving up certain "exempt subsidy X" CP competition (which, imo, can be dealt with in other ways). otoh, my personal philosophy on plan specificity has usually been the AFF need only specify as much as their solvency evidence requires. e.g., if the solvency authors don't specify which branch of the USFG should take action, the plan need not either. applied to this issue, perhaps the reasonable standard is that the AFF need only specify which subsidies they eliminate as much as their solvency authors do. while i'm not strongly opinionated either way, i will disagree with russell's implication and say i do think a debate over this question could be interesting and educational. it would require some topic specific evidence and a level of debate theory debating more nuanced and developed than stale a-spec debates. thus, i do "care." imo, part of the atrophy in good T debates over the years (along with resolutions that are so verbose they squeeze the creative life out of plan writing) is that there's been too much focus on predictable ground (defined as "which of my generic backfiles can i run?") and not enough on education (defined as "field contextual interpretations that provide topic specific understandings of aff/neg ground"). i.e., what unique areas of contestable ground are to be found in this year's topic? the debate over what constitutes 'eliminating nearly all domestic subsidies' is one such area that has not been fully explored. hester On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:58 AM, JP Lacy wrote: > > Affirmatives should specify the subsidies their plan eliminates if asked > in the CX of the 1ac: > > 1. Strongly disagree > 2. Disagree > 3. Neither agree or disagree > 4. Agree > 5. Strongly Agree > > > Me? 5. Strongly Agree. > > > --JP > lacyjp at wfu.edu > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090310/d6c37bcd/attachment.htm From jtedebate at yahoo.com Tue Mar 10 10:56:00 2009 From: jtedebate at yahoo.com (J T) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [eDebate] Disclosure Norms - Plea for Codification Message-ID: <999913.24352.qm@web110612.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> While I agree that a rule is unnecessary, I disagree that it is only coaches who care about this.? Lots of debaters get pissed when coaches and other team jerk them around. Coachs definitely fan the flames of this situation...Jason is right that it is a courtesy people!? There is no obligation to say anything before the round.? Here's my take: Basic Rule of Thumb: don't be a jackass! Don't ask vague questions or hound the other team/coaching staff with 10 follow up questions...I can think of a few squads that are quite bad about this.? The more annoying you are, the more the Aff will want to give you shady info or just tell you to go away New Aff:? Aff should disclose this asap.? Neg should ask if it has been ran by anyone on the Aff squad.? Beyond that, ask if there will be a plan text...As a Neg--that's all you get THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE COSMETIC CHANGES TO THE PLAN TEXT!? This is not a new aff, but a new plan--You should be clear about this... New Advantages:? Beyond "new advantage", you should get nothing and like it W. James Taylor ("JT") Asst. Debate Coach Emporia State University ***Nothing in this email should be taken to represent Emporia State Debate or Emporia State University. The contents are the sole opinion of the author. --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Jason Russell wrote: From: Jason Russell Subject: Re: [eDebate] Disclosure Norms - Plea for Codification To: edebate at ndtceda.com Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 6:14 AM Disclosure wouldn't be a norm then; it'd be a rule. It's a courtesy, period. The reason mis-disclosure is so irritating is because it is discourteous. If more people were willing to treat violations of disclosure norms with reciprocity, fewer violations of disclosure norms would occur. That said, there shouldn't be any need to create rules about disclosure and doing so would likely result in NFL type rules disputes which I am universally annoyed by. Only coaches really think that this type of disclosure mumbo-jumbo is particularly important; it's (or should be) telling that most debaters don't really care and think things are basically fine now.? 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So, I continue to not care about JPs question while agreeing with Hester's answer to whatever question he thinks he is addressing. J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090310/bfcfef3b/attachment.htm From jtedebate at yahoo.com Tue Mar 10 10:57:40 2009 From: jtedebate at yahoo.com (J T) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [eDebate] NDT 6 rounds for sale Message-ID: <276730.25790.qm@web110612.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I have 6 rounds for the NDT...cash...best offer W. James Taylor ("JT") Asst. Debate Coach Emporia State University ***Nothing in this email should be taken to represent Emporia State Debate or Emporia State University. The contents are the sole opinion of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Brovero) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:30:38 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] ADA Nationals - Reminder about dues Message-ID: <50704d760903101130q1ba80daxe954c70ab041b11a@mail.gmail.com> Hi folks - Just a reminder, that if you intend to participate in ADA Nationals this week, you need to have paid your patron-level membership dues prior to the start of round 1 on Friday. [See ADA rules section VI. 1, http://www.liberty.edu/academics/communications/debate/index.cfm?PID=15224] Dues are $50 per school for a patron membership. You may pay at registration on Friday. Checks should be made out to: American Debate Association. My records indicate the following schools have paid. If you are not the list, but think you have paid *patron* level dues, please contact me. App State Boston College Clarion Dartmouth Emory George Washington Harvard Illinois James Madison John Carroll Kansas State Liberty Methodist Miami-OH Samford University of Miami University of Richmond University of Rochester University of Southern California Wake Forest Thanks, Adrienne F. Brovero ADA Treasurer -- Adrienne F. Brovero Debate Coach UMW Debate 540-654-2128 "Without debate, without criticism, no administration and no country can succeed--and no republic can survive." -John F. Kennedy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090310/a81965d6/attachment.htm From antonucci23 at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 16:17:21 2009 From: antonucci23 at gmail.com (Michael Antonucci) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:17:21 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Disclosure Norms: Codification: Russell and JT Message-ID: <4a71966c0903101417i6495951fy1773e793bc659ffe@mail.gmail.com> I don't really have a dog in this fight. If people think disclosure is fine now, they think it's fine now. JT and Russell are also both genuinely courteous games players, in my experience, and if everyone modelled their good nature, this conversation probably wouldn't be happening. That said, I've witnessed repeated clashes over disclosure and disclosure norms that clearly either originate with students or get channeled through them. It's unrealistic to put highly competitive students in a setting where they're fighting for an inch, encourage them to fight for that inch, then seem surprised or get bent out of shape when very poorly defined rules/norms result in conflict. Russell: "Disclosure wouldn't be a norm then; it'd be a rule. It's a courtesy, period. The reason mis-disclosure is so irritating is because it is discourteous. If more people were willing to treat violations of disclosure norms with reciprocity, fewer violations of disclosure norms would occur." Norms are uncodified rules - but they're still rules. Disclosure would then be a codified rule instead of an uncodified rule. I think there's a distinction between a courtesy and a norm, though. A norm, in this situation, implies that there's a code that's slightly better defined, and that there may be established, if variable, penalties for its violation. Most students and coaches would agree that getting screwed on disclosure feels more like a "rules violation" than, say, an opposing team making fun of your shoes or blasting annoying music before a round. Terrible personal hygiene is "discourteous" - atrocious disclosure screwups feel more like cheating. Your invocation of "reciprocity" implies a sort of vigilante street justice. If someone's disclosure is inadequate, they'll be treated the same way. I think that sort of practice begs for rule-making. Should the reciprocal punishment extend to an individual team, or across a squad? Should other squads join in the beat down against violators? Who decides? Absent codification, I see a whole world of conflict ensconced in the deceptively innocuous phrase "treat...with reciprocity." "That said, there shouldn't be any need to create rules about disclosure and doing so would likely result in NFL type rules disputes which I am universally annoyed by." (Which NFL do you mean - the high school National Forensic League or the professional National Football League? I imagine you mean the high school one, for strictly rhetorical reasons, but both have rules disputes, so I dunno.) I think codification would potentially result in a. a moderately annoying drafting process b. an occasional rule dispute which could then result in an amendment. This dispute would be annoying, although I would find it no more or less annoying than current disclosure conflicts. I guess the question, really, is whether the juice is worth the squeeze. As I see and hear about an irritating amount of informal rules lawyering now, I tend to think so. You apparently don't see any of these conflicts, so you don't think so. It appears that JP Lacy does see those conflicts, so he may think so. I suppose only more and better data, even if anecdotal, can resolve our factual disagreement. "Only coaches really think that this type of disclosure mumbo-jumbo is particularly important; it's (or should be) telling that most debaters don't really care and think things are basically fine now." I disagree with the categorical first sentence. *Some* debaters certainly think that disclosure mumbo-jumbo is important, and feel cheated by violations of this hazy norm. I don't know about the inductive second sentence. I can't speak for "most debaters." Neither can you. We can't appeal to a silent majority without some method for verifying our conflicting instincts on this issue. Finally, even if coaches are the only ones who care, rules should probably exist to protect debaters from unspoken power differentials. I've seen coaches browbeat. Leaving this whole process to consensus often creates a situation in which less resourced and experienced debaters have a less complete understanding of whatever you believe the consensus to be. Codification protects the inexperienced as well as pre-empting conflict among the hyper-competitive. JT: Your post seems internally conflicted. It says "this is not complicated" - then issues a pretty complicated and probably controversial rubric for disclosure. You say "don't codify!" - then codify. For example, you get to "ask if there will be a plan text" in the event of a new aff? I'm not sure about that. What if the point of breaking a very critical new aff is that the opposition doesn't expect it to be highly critical? I wrote one planless aff this year for precisely that reason. Do you really feel that subsection of your rules (norms?) can somehow logically be derived from "don't be a jackass"? I don't. Not in any transparent way. I think it's debate arcana. No one really knows. That's why someone should probably codify it - as you start to do. Detailing arcana while insisting that "everyone understands this already" seems like a self-defeating exercise. Debate norms are no more commonsensical than the Diplomacy convoy order or string-raising regulations. (Probably less so, in fact.) They're the product of a very unusual and self-contained game. Your feeling of immersion in a particular subculture may make it seem natural, but it's not. Nobody knows, and someone should probably work this out outside of the most conflict-prone situation possible. -- Michael Antonucci Debate Coach Georgetown University Mobile: 617-838-3345 Office: 202-687-4079 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090310/9b75a7da/attachment.htm From jasonlrussell1 at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 20:23:49 2009 From: jasonlrussell1 at gmail.com (Jason Russell) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:23:49 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Disclosure Message-ID: I guess I dont see this as a big deal bc the conflict doesn't bother me that much, and I recognize that this is just me. If you dont want to disclose something, don't disclose it. If you don't ever want to disclose something, never disclose. If you hate MSU and don't want to disclose to just them, do that. I debated (as did most coaches) when disclosure wasn't a norm and when disclosure norms were created. It is, frankly, possible to do so and really not that big of a deal. In my experience, disclosure simplifies finding information on what teams have run previously, and that is helpful, but not necessary, to debating them. Most people find this system useful and therefor abide by it, which is fine. But if someone doesn't want to disclose to you or violates your expectations for disclosure, your options for dealing with this are largely individual. And, I think that's fine too. I loathe pre-round CX. When I see my debaters engaging in it, I discourage it, whether they've initiated it or their opponents have. Overall, I don't like the idea of coaches talking to other teams' debaters prior to debates at all. I think it is almost always bullying and exceeds the reasonable expectations of what people should know prior to a debate. In sum, I think that disclosure should not be codified because I dont think that it ought to be an expectation but a courtesy that should be responded to with reciprocity. That doesn't make it vigilante justice because I dont think it is unjust to fail to tell someone something that they dont need to know if the first place. This is something we like to have, not something we have a right to expect. As far as JP's questions re: disclosure, I think that reciprocity handles it. If a team you disclose to pretends that an advantage is new when it isnt, you should do this in the future when you debate them. Same with plans. Same with "team affs". On down the line. The da to rules is that like the national football league's rules on evidence presentation or citation reading, they are difficult to verify and contentious to prosecute. You simply pass the buck down the line to judges who then become the targets of conflict for enforcing less-then-clear-cut rules. I've been involved in adjudicating two different, high-impact evidence challenges over the years and having rules on these issues hasn't made them less contentious and conflict-laden when confronted. It simply involves more individuals. Teams should handle this one-on-one for that reason. J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090310/4f649e98/attachment.htm From lacyjp at wfu.edu Tue Mar 10 21:18:49 2009 From: lacyjp at wfu.edu (JP Lacy) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:18:49 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Disclosure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49B71F89.6070203@wfu.edu> Well, I guess I definitely disagree with this: "As far as JP's questions re: disclosure, I think that reciprocity handles it. If a team you disclose to pretends that an advantage is new when it isnt, you should do this in the future when you debate them. Same with plans. Same with "team affs". On down the line." I'd rather teams just disclose what they'd expect in the same situation. Forget "reciprocity," just give what you would want on the other side. I don't expect our squad to execute "reciprocal justice." Keeping score is a waste of time & energy. "Treat others..." works better than "eye for an eye..." That doesn't mean we won't ever "reciprocate" only that I think Debate is a better game than Hockey. --JP Jason Russell wrote: > I guess I dont see this as a big deal bc the conflict doesn't bother > me that much, and I recognize that this is just me. If you dont want > to disclose something, don't disclose it. If you don't ever want to > disclose something, never disclose. If you hate MSU and don't want to > disclose to just them, do that. I debated (as did most coaches) when > disclosure wasn't a norm and when disclosure norms were created. It > is, frankly, possible to do so and really not that big of a deal. In > my experience, disclosure simplifies finding information on what teams > have run previously, and that is helpful, but not necessary, to > debating them. Most people find this system useful and therefor abide > by it, which is fine. But if someone doesn't want to disclose to you > or violates your expectations for disclosure, your options for dealing > with this are largely individual. And, I think that's fine too. I > loathe pre-round CX. When I see my debaters engaging in it, I > discourage it, whether they've initiated it or their opponents have. > Overall, I don't like the idea of coaches talking to other teams' > debaters prior to debates at all. I think it is almost always bullying > and exceeds the reasonable expectations of what people should know > prior to a debate. In sum, I think that disclosure should not be > codified because I dont think that it ought to be an expectation but a > courtesy that should be responded to with reciprocity. That doesn't > make it vigilante justice because I dont think it is unjust to fail to > tell someone something that they dont need to know if the first place. > This is something we like to have, not something we have a right to > expect. > > As far as JP's questions re: disclosure, I think that reciprocity > handles it. If a team you disclose to pretends that an advantage is > new when it isnt, you should do this in the future when you debate > them. Same with plans. Same with "team affs". On down the line. > > The da to rules is that like the national football league's rules on > evidence presentation or citation reading, they are difficult to > verify and contentious to prosecute. You simply pass the buck down the > line to judges who then become the targets of conflict for enforcing > less-then-clear-cut rules. I've been involved in adjudicating two > different, high-impact evidence challenges over the years and having > rules on these issues hasn't made them less contentious and > conflict-laden when confronted. It simply involves more individuals. > Teams should handle this one-on-one for that reason. > > J > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate From jasonlrussell1 at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 21:22:59 2009 From: jasonlrussell1 at gmail.com (Jason Russell) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:22:59 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Disclosure In-Reply-To: <49B71F89.6070203@wfu.edu> References: <49B71F89.6070203@wfu.edu> Message-ID: And I guess I just think teams ARE giving you what they want on the other side. And that's exactly why you should treat them with reciprocity when they fudge a new adv, plan change, or team aff. If they didn't want you to return the "favor" they would have been more careful. Debate is definitely not better than hockey. That's just stupid. J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090310/1999a170/attachment.htm From lacyjp at wfu.edu Tue Mar 10 21:31:45 2009 From: lacyjp at wfu.edu (JP Lacy) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:31:45 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Disclosure In-Reply-To: References: <49B71F89.6070203@wfu.edu> Message-ID: <49B72291.6070305@wfu.edu> I don't think we're arguing about much. (Except that Debate is a far, far better game than Hockey. They have fights. We have words. And stronglings.) Only disagreement: Continue disclosing what YOU expect. Keeping score isn't worth the energy. --JP Jason Russell wrote: > And I guess I just think teams ARE giving you what they want on the > other side. And that's exactly why you should treat them with > reciprocity when they fudge a new adv, plan change, or team aff. If > they didn't want you to return the "favor" they would have been more > careful. > > Debate is definitely not better than hockey. That's just stupid. > > J From jasonlrussell1 at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 21:32:45 2009 From: jasonlrussell1 at gmail.com (Jason Russell) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:32:45 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Disclosure In-Reply-To: <49B72291.6070305@wfu.edu> References: <49B71F89.6070203@wfu.edu> <49B72291.6070305@wfu.edu> Message-ID: We should have more fights. This shouldnt even be controversial. J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is pre-round disclosures, in a world of topical affirmatives, even necessary? Scott From sethellsworth at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 21:39:14 2009 From: sethellsworth at gmail.com (Seth T. Ellsworth) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:39:14 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Scott Elliot disclosure Message-ID: <412d08cb0903101939k3ab2b0f4h602f79b41adb9905@mail.gmail.com> "one or more" -- Lights Out, Right Now -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090310/67fbf127/attachment.htm From lacyjp at wfu.edu Tue Mar 10 22:00:32 2009 From: lacyjp at wfu.edu (JP Lacy) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:00:32 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Disclosure In-Reply-To: <1236738854.49b723261d9d9@webmail.grandecom.net> References: <1236738854.49b723261d9d9@webmail.grandecom.net> Message-ID: <49B72950.6000000@wfu.edu> Russell said the opposite. scottelliott at grandecom.net wrote: > Am I the only one who see the irony in Russell claiming moral indignation and a > call for "rules" of enforcement for something as trivial as pre-round Aff. case > disclosure, yet is baying at the moon about people's freedom to do anything they > want within a round. Correct me if I am wrong, which is indeed a rare > occurrence, but isn't the right NOT to speak just as valuable as the right to > say anything you want? Jeezus, folks, you get 10 minutes prep, you have the > most overly restrictive debate Franken-resolution ever created, and you have > had a whole year to get links off of the elimination of nearly all subsidies. > Is pre-round disclosures, in a world of topical affirmatives, even necessary? > > Scott > > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > > > From debate at ou.edu Tue Mar 10 22:02:58 2009 From: debate at ou.edu (Massey, Jackie B.) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:02:58 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Rounds for Sale NJDDT -- Message-ID: <650DB0CBB8E8E3418E627BD179329677F55AA3A6DC@XMAIL2.sooner.net.ou.edu> For once we have extra rounds for sale at the NJDDT! Do you need to pay to have some rounds covered? (for clarity) We can cover at least 6. email me Massey OU Debate From alfred.snider at uvm.edu Tue Mar 10 22:34:14 2009 From: alfred.snider at uvm.edu (Alfred Snider) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:34:14 +0300 Subject: [eDebate] Towson results? Message-ID: <49B73136.3070108@uvm.edu> Hello from Qatar. Is it too much to ask for the Towson results? Long after the tournament we still do not know what happened in the elims. Speakers? Andy, how difficult would it have been to cut and paste them into an email? How tough would it be to send a pdf of the finished brackets? Did you get enough sleep yet, Andy? Mike? Tuna -- Alfred C. Snider aka Tuna Edwin Lawrence Professor of Forensics University of Vermont Huber House, 475 Main Street, UVM, Burlington, VT 05405 USA Global Debate Blog http://globaldebateblog.blogspot.com Debate Central http://debate.uvm.edu World Debate Institute http://debate.uvm.edu/wdi/ World Debate Institute Blog http://worlddebateinstitute.blogspot.com 802-656-0097 office telephone 802-656-4275 office fax From andy.edebate at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 22:52:51 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:52:51 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Towson results? In-Reply-To: <49B73136.3070108@uvm.edu> References: <49B73136.3070108@uvm.edu> Message-ID: <9368bc9b0903102052l716fcf6eh2c02c8396b7937b7@mail.gmail.com> Sorry, actually no i havent, this morning at 5 am i had to go wait in line to get a tooth removed, that i should of had removed last week because it is abcessed infected and making me spike a fever all weekend,i should of had it removed last week when the antibiotics i got 10 days earlier because i had a 102 fever and a mouth swollen to three times normal size forced me into the er without insurance ran out. i had to get there at 5am today and hope that i was in the front of the line, i wasnt so i had to wait till about 2 when i got to go home still sick, still with infected tooth, and having gotten litteraly no sleep after running a big tournament, i came home and went to sleep...not having the digital files because i was ruinning people to the mega bus as the tournament eneded and mike left, i have now woken up and begun to hand enter the bracket results, dont worry even though i have to go back to the dental clininc at 5 am tomorrow and hope i can get treated again, i will finish typing this information for you.....I'm very persistant and aggressive about such things as well but i find peoples real answers often make me appreciate the sacrifices members of our community make in order to make things go...my guess is they should be there by 815 doha time..hopefully when it is noon there and five here and you have your results you will think a more positive thought for me.. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Alfred Snider wrote: > Hello from Qatar. > > Is it too much to ask for the Towson results? > > Long after the tournament we still do not know what happened in the > elims. Speakers? > > Andy, how difficult would it have been to cut and paste them into an > email? How tough would it be to send a pdf of the finished brackets? > > Did you get enough sleep yet, Andy? Mike? > > Tuna > > > -- > Alfred C. 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It was hard work but thanks to all of you who made the tournament run extraordinarily well, with great competition and judging...it was my honor to host you all this weekend...a few people i did not thank at the awards ceremony who i absolutly should have thanked. 1) Mike Davis...Mike ran a professional efficient and trouble free tab room, that i hope can define the tournament in the future...thank you mike you are amazing... 2) Daryl Burch-Daryl was there late into the night cleaning rooms and helping out all tournament...he is not a towson coach, just a huge supporter of debate, and i overlooked thanking him at the awards ceremony...thank you daryl... 3) Towson Coaches....coaching and running a tournament is tough, thats why we had most of the work "outsourced" this year, but none the less the towson coaches chipped in and helped out as much as they could, ...thank you chris beth and stephen... 4) Judges who gave extra rounds...you make the world go around... Betweem the awards, this email, and personal conversations i am sure i have still missed a bunch of people...if so...then when i realizie it iw ill thank you...but to the rest of the community this has been the most exciting wekeend of my season and i look for ward to future jv nov nats at towson. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090311/19c57de0/attachment.htm From james.maritato at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 00:08:09 2009 From: james.maritato at gmail.com (James Maritato) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:08:09 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] AT: TUNA SNIDER Message-ID: vacuous. -JM (is bringing it back) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Find comprehensive information, full invitation and registration information at http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/usu/Welcome.html USU TEAM LIST 1) Alaska A 2) Alaska B 3) Alaska C 4) Alaska D 5) Alaska E 6) Beijing Foreign Studies University A (CH) 7) Cape Cod A 8) Cape Cod B 9) Cape Cod C 10) Cape Cod D 11) Central Univ of Economics & Finance A He Jingkai & Du Jingquiang (China national champions) (CH) 12) CSU San Bernadino A Rob Ruiz and Krissy Hazelrigg 13) CSU San Bernadino B Mason Kirksey and Katrina Meyer 14) CSU San Bernadino C Frank Garcia and Michaeline Anderson 15) CSU San Bernadino D Adam McBride and Katharina Wessels 16) CSU San Bernadino E Dan Smith and Erin O'Toole 17) CSU San Bernadino F Stephen Jensen and Michael Turner 18) Cambridge A - Mary Nugent and Sean Koh (UK) 19) Claremont A ? Raymond Lu and Charlie Sprague 20) Claremont B ? Cassie Gurrola and Holly Poole 21) Claremont C ? Andrew Grimm and Elizabeth Schmitz-Robinson 22) Claremont D ? Joseph Clifton and Jesse Katz Blumenthal 23) Claremont E ? Aaron Champagne and Ellen Lebow 24) Claremont F ? Calum Macdonald and Will Savage 25) Claremont G ? Joseph Witte and Edward Zaki 26) Claremont H ? Gerald Davis and Jacinth Sohi 27) Claremont I 28) Claremont J 29) Colgate A 30) Colgate B 31) Colgate C 32) Colgate D 33) Colgate E 34) Cornell A 35) Cornell B 36) Cornell C 37) Cornell D 38) Cornell E 39) Cornell F 40) Cornell G 41) Cornell H 42) Cornell I 43) Cornell J 44) Cornell K 45) Dawson College A 46) Dawson College B 47) Dawson College C 48) Depauw A Keelin Kelly & Michael Lutz 49) Depauw B Avery Archer & Christine Walker 50) Depauw C Aaron Dicker & Kevin Milne 51) Hart House A (CA) 52) Hobart & William Smith A David Hernandez & Buzz Klinger 53) Hobart & William Smith B Thomas Frohlich & Dan Thorson 54) Hobart & William Smith C Dan Maguire & John Monaghan 55) Hobart & William Smith D 56) Hobart & William Smith E 57) Humboldt State A Alyssa Lomier and Stephanie Dowdle 58) Humboldt State B Tim Thiel and Jeff Gutierrez 59) La Verne A - Thomas Allison and Briana Pride 60) La Verne B - Ryan Mansell and Corey Teter 61) La Verne C - Aaron Zamora and Shana Murphy 62) La Verne D - Tyler Smith and Jack Cunningham 63) La Verne E - Nick McGrail and Brittany Lokar 64) Linfield College A Morgan St. Jean & Colin Jones 65) Ljubljana A Edita Gabric & Luka Vlasic (EU) 66) Loyola Marymount A: Kevin Kiley and Mike Aguilera 67) Loyola Marymount B: James Mollison and Courtney Crooks 68) Loyola Marymount C: Rhiannon Koehler and Bradley Neddenriep 69) Loyola Marymount D: Bobby Cashen and Carinna Torgersen 70) Loyola Marymount E: George Briggs and Courtney Pickard 71) Loyola Marymount F: Sean Faussett and Jessica Schmitt 72) Middle Temple A Daniel Warrents & Doug Cochran (UK) 73) Northwest University A Kevin Botterbusch and Morgan Chinn 74) Northwest University B Brandon Schulz and Evan Whipple 75) Portland State A 76) Portland State B 77) Portland State C 78) Rocky Mountain College A Allison Reidmoor & Katie Best 79) St. John?s A 80) St. John?s B 81) St. John?s C 82) St. John?s D 83) St. John?s E 84) Seattle A--James Kilcup & Sophia Sanders 85) Seattle B--Michael Imeson & Michael Flores 86) Seattle C (members to be determined) 87) Tel Aviv University A Sella Nevo & Uri Merhav (Israel) 88) Vermont Marti-Thygesen 89) Vermont Murphy Hall-Frank 90) Vermont Berg-Ghoraj 91) Vermont Robertson-Martel 92) Vermont Dionesotes-Hamlin 93) Vermont Natale-Caress 94) Vermont Klein-Glynne 95) Vermont Loeb-Anders 96) Vermont Emond-Leveston 97) Vermont Ritchie-Latucca 98) Vermont Berg-Goraj 99) Vermont Lalemand-Goldschneider 100) Vermont Zach Realberg & Garhett Solomon 101) Vermont Paul Gross & Rachel Fabian 102) UC Davis/RIT Murphy-Damiba 103) University of Witswatersrand A Joseph Roussos & Philip Williams (So Africa) -- Alfred C. Snider aka Tuna Edwin Lawrence Professor of Forensics University of Vermont Huber House, 475 Main Street, UVM, Burlington, VT 05405 USA Global Debate Blog http://globaldebateblog.blogspot.com Debate Central http://debate.uvm.edu World Debate Institute http://debate.uvm.edu/wdi/ World Debate Institute Blog http://worlddebateinstitute.blogspot.com 802-656-0097 office telephone 802-656-4275 office fax From andy.edebate at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 00:38:18 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:38:18 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] JV Novice Nationals Thank You From YOURS. Message-ID: <9368bc9b0903102238v4ca1fa28o8a434da3ba9852b8@mail.gmail.com> Anyone who was at the tournament this weekend met the YOURS team, either as ballot runners, tournament assitants, or just cool young entreprenuers trying to take their ideas from theory to practice. Below is a note from Najib Jammal the Executive Director of YOURS. Y.O.U.R.S. would like to thank and congratulate all teams participating in the 2009 Junior Varsity and Novice National Championship Tournament!!! Who we are: We are a non-profit organization working with Baltimore City Youth to create a network of community owned businesses and programs serving and benefiting the community. YOURS is a three-part model of education, entrepreneurship and community revitalization that builds a system in which youth can become leaders of their community. YOURS offers an entrepreneurship program that helps students launch, develop and manage cooperative businesses and an advocacy and civic engagement program, which uses college volunteers to train Baltimore area youth to form debate teams, community service programs and school-based programs. YOURS?s first initiative is a cooperative clothing store that sells T-shirts, jewelry, music and art work produced by youth. The store is managed entirely by youth members of YOURS, and YOURS uses the proceeds from every sale to support educational and entrepreneurial programming. Next time your in Baltimore visit us at the YOURS Store ? 822 W. 36thStreet ? or visit us online at *www.bmoreyours.org*, *www.zazzle.com/bmoreyours* or on facebook. Easy way you can help: 1) Vote for us online in the Polo Rugby match grant at * http://www.rugby.com/newsroom/blog_post.aspx?id=612f7892-0040-4826-ad58-4b46e819ea74&cat=6d3287ed-c1e1-4d01-8717-544c4efbb8b9 * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090311/7c7fc637/attachment.htm From berchnorto at msn.com Wed Mar 11 08:50:55 2009 From: berchnorto at msn.com (NEIL BERCH) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:50:55 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Towson! Message-ID: On behalf of the WVU Debate Team, I want to thank Andy Ellis, Mike Davis, Beth Skinner and the Towson coaching staff, the Towson debaters (who competed pretty well while also handling hosting duties), and the Y.O.U.R.S. students for a fine weekend. Between the competition and the celebration of Novice and JV debate, it was indeed the best tournament of the year. We at WVU look forward to attending JV/Novice Nationals at Towson for many years to come! --Neil Berch West Virginia University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090311/4abd6fa0/attachment.htm From EMarlow at uco.edu Wed Mar 11 10:35:07 2009 From: EMarlow at uco.edu (Eric Marlow) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:35:07 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] UCO Has NDT judging covered Message-ID: <18B8F2010B91E144BC6EB64508D71013068955E26B@EXCHANGE.uco.local> Thanks ot everyone who got back to me. We are now covered for the NDT. Peace, Marlow **ADDRESS CHANGE NOTICE**-The University of Central Oklahoma is moving to a new Internet address. All e-mail addresses and Web sites are now available at uco.edu. All e-mail addresses and Web sites will use uco.edu effective January 2, 2009. **CONFIDENTIALITY** -This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information. Any unauthorized disclosure or use of this information is prohibited. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090311/4c36b32b/attachment.htm From gyzerkaizer at yahoo.com Wed Mar 11 12:24:44 2009 From: gyzerkaizer at yahoo.com (Brettly Wilson) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [eDebate] UCO sites Message-ID: <5115.86951.qm@web65604.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Can I get the dark ecology sites run at K state finals -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090311/8e2fc29a/attachment.htm From shahall at comcast.net Wed Mar 11 13:20:00 2009 From: shahall at comcast.net (Sherry Hall) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:20:00 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Fw: pfau Message-ID: <00fd01c9a275$fdbdaf70$24a86041@PowerspecPc> Cindy Leiferman asked me to let people know that her former coach, Mike Pfau is in failing health from complications from cancer treatment. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cynthia leiferman" To: "Sherry Hall" ; ; "louden" Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: pfau > Just heard from Ginger, Pfau's wife. It is not good. He is in the most > vulnerable stage of immuno-suppression from his cancer treatment. The > pneumonia is running rampant. He is on a ventilator in ICU and his > kidneys are failing. Please encourage everyone to keep him in their > thoughts and prayers. Cindy > > > From jwpatt00 at email.uky.edu Wed Mar 11 13:43:53 2009 From: jwpatt00 at email.uky.edu (Patterson, J W) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:43:53 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] [CEDA-L] Few: pfau In-Reply-To: <00fd01c9a275$fdbdaf70$24a86041@PowerspecPc> Message-ID: Cindy and Sherry, I am very saddened to here about Mike. I am planning a trip to Norman in May and he was one of the people I hope too see. And Cindy, how are you? Hope to see both of you in Austin. I am planning a trip to South by Southwest which overlaps with NDT. Love to both of you. JW On 3/11/09 2:20 PM, "Sherry Hall" wrote: Cindy Leiferman asked me to let people know that her former coach, Mike Pfau is in failing health from complications from cancer treatment. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cynthia leiferman" To: "Sherry Hall" ; ; "louden" Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: pfau > Just heard from Ginger, Pfau's wife. It is not good. He is in the most > vulnerable stage of immuno-suppression from his cancer treatment. The > pneumonia is running rampant. He is on a ventilator in ICU and his > kidneys are failing. Please encourage everyone to keep him in their > thoughts and prayers. Cindy > > > _______________________________________________ CEDA-L mailing list CEDA-L at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/ceda-l From michcowboy189 at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 16:30:30 2009 From: michcowboy189 at gmail.com (Andrew Myers) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:30:30 -0700 Subject: [eDebate] email for mailing lists Message-ID: <47da13010903111430q60227ebdw5d0b0ade123c5af8@mail.gmail.com> michcowboy189 at gmail.com responding to recent email asking for my email so i can post to the list -- Andrew Myers aka "Big Mead" Gonzaga Debate -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And i thought Russell judged a lot of rounds, you guys are going above and beyond commitment you might say.... massey From veronica_m_barreto at hotmail.com Wed Mar 11 19:32:38 2009 From: veronica_m_barreto at hotmail.com (Veronica Guevara) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:32:38 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] OG and Tews - Give it Up! In-Reply-To: <650DB0CBB8E8E3418E627BD179329677F55AA3A6E9@XMAIL2.sooner.net.ou.edu> References: <650DB0CBB8E8E3418E627BD179329677F55AA3A6E9@XMAIL2.sooner.net.ou.edu> Message-ID: I think OG would say...."nothing exceeds quite like excess" Veronica M. Guevara Weber State University Department of Communication 1605 University Circle Ogden, UT 84408 www.weberdebate.com > From: debate at ou.edu > To: edebate at ndtceda.com > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:28:29 -0500 > Subject: [eDebate] OG and Tews - Give it Up! > > > Lets give it up for OG and Tews. > > And i thought Russell judged a lot of rounds, > you guys are going above and beyond commitment you might say.... > > massey > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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She said it was pretty much the norm in NCAA sports (at least basketball). Seems the NCAA has a little more focus on sportiveness (got a better nongendered word for sportsmanship?) than whatever the reason for secrecy is. Kind of interesting to me. Martin Harris Systems Engineer - Desktop Architecture Drury University - Technology Services 900 N Benton Ave Springfield, Missouri 65802 office: 417-873-7848 fax: 417-873-7835 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090312/7243383d/attachment.htm From andy.edebate at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 09:29:24 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:29:24 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Electronic communication was re disclosure Message-ID: <9368bc9b0903120729r6b0932fdg3b6adaa3c74916f2@mail.gmail.com> Martins post seemed a good jumping off point for a discussion i have been having a lot lately. Most rounds i watch have 4 laptops and 5 cell phones, i always see debaters on aim gchat and facebook during debates both in rounds and now as someone who is home most weekends from afar. I have seen status messages which indicates strategy and chatted with debaters and judges(not towson debaters, just random friends in random debates) about what is going on in the debate. Because i am way old school i dont give advice....but is this norm as widely followed as the disclosure norms or is it circumvented by the competitive desire of competition. I think most of us have given up on the notion that the internet won't be accessed during rounds, but what does it mean for norms not widely discussesed since that became such an easy possibility? I hear the ada is considering a clamp down on this...i can't even imagine how that would work in a world where phones and cameras and ipods can access chatting programs, you can shut down the laptops sure, but are you gonna jam the cell signals? What if the norm was open communication? Here are a few arguments 1) We cannont assume it is not happening now, we can only take stances against it and hope the same students and coaches who play games with disclosure for competitive edge stop shaddy behavior at the begining of the 1ac. The rules we have to stop it are simultaneously less and more eneforceable....More in that there is a record of it whereas before if you ran into your coach in the bathroom no one could tell if you where talking about T O or T Nearly all...Less in that we dont have the mechanisims to access and utilize that digital trail in order to enforce the rules at any capacity to track all of it that possibly go on. If it is happeneing now the more ethical are at a disadvanatage. 2)Some debaters and coaches will find it super useful and others wont....pretty much the same as in the status quo...teams with fewer coaching resources find ways to beat debaters with a ton of coaches...its not like just the schools with big coaching staffs would take advantage of this, so would smaller schools with one coach...i know streches small school coaches even further...but i bet alot of them would take the option happily if it where presented to them, and if not those teams are already used to debating with those coaches. 3)Norms that require utilization of technology increase access to technology...I know the first reaction of many of you will be what about those folks without computers...my short answer is that is the uniqueness not the impact...longer answer, institutions have better access to computing technology than individuals, a tech friendly norm that effects competitive ability is likely to increase institutional allocations of computers to debate teams...There is a norm now, it has increased access both individualy and institutionaly, adding more competitive incentive is more likely than not to further the levels of access. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Martin Harris wrote: > I am not a big fan of rights discourse, and am certainly no sports > positivist, but I have been intrigued by disclosure norms every since I got > a call from our men?s basketball team last year. Seems the NCAA conference > we play in requires that all home teams record AND upload full game footage > of all conference games to a conference website within a certain period of > time after the game (I think 48 hours). This last Sunday when the lady?s > basketball team was having problems with getting the selection Sunday show > going for the school watch party, I decided to ask the assistant coach > whether that film requirement was unique to our conference or fairly > standard. She said it was pretty much the norm in NCAA sports (at least > basketball). Seems the NCAA has a little more focus on sportiveness (got a > better nongendered word for sportsmanship?) than whatever the reason for > secrecy is. Kind of interesting to me. > > > > Martin Harris > > Systems Engineer - Desktop Architecture > > Drury University - Technology Services > > 900 N Benton Ave > > Springfield, Missouri 65802 > > office: 417-873-7848 > > fax: 417-873-7835 > > > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090312/98f0e90d/attachment.htm From debate at ou.edu Thu Mar 12 11:18:19 2009 From: debate at ou.edu (Massey, Jackie B.) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:18:19 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Sad News From Norman! Message-ID: <650DB0CBB8E8E3418E627BD179329677F55AA3A6EC@XMAIL2.sooner.net.ou.edu> Hello, I am not sure if there is supposed to be some form of censorship on this news, but I feel there are many of you who would like to know immediately so you can contact the family. It is my understanding that Dr. Pfau passed away last night. I dont have any further news on the memorial or contact information. I will share this news when i receive it. He has been an important member of our debate family for many years. Best Wishes Coach jackie From maffiemd at muohio.edu Thu Mar 12 11:42:09 2009 From: maffiemd at muohio.edu (Mike Maffie) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:42:09 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Cornell looking for NDT Rounds Message-ID: Greetings: Cornell is looking to hire 5 rounds at the NDT. Thanks, Mike Mike Maffie Assistant Director of Forensics Cornell University 201 Kennedy Hall mdm283 at cornell.edu From shahall at comcast.net Thu Mar 12 13:05:17 2009 From: shahall at comcast.net (Sherry Hall) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:05:17 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Fw: Mike Pfau Message-ID: <024801c9a33d$1a0cd170$24a86041@PowerspecPc> ----- Original Message ----- From: "cynthia leiferman" To: "Sherry Hall" Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:08 PM Subject: Mike Pfau > It is with heavy heart that I inform you that Dr. Mike Pfau died this > morning from complications of cancer. The funeral will be held in > Minneapolis Mn. next week. His family has requested that any memorials > be made to either the OU Scholarship Fund or the Pfau Professionalism > in Debate Scholarship, both of which have been established in honor of > Mike. At this time, I will be collecting the donations for the debate > scholarship. Any donations may be sent to my address (listed below). I > will be communicating with the family and will ensure that they are > aware of each and every donation. If anyone needs more information, > please call me at (512) 796-3702. Today we lost 'one of the good > guys'. Pfau was a great coach, teacher, writer, mentor, and friend. > > > > > > Cynthia Leiferman > Cynthia A. Leiferman, P.C. > 9127 Spinning Leaf Cove > Austin, Texas 78735 > TEL: (512)330-0411 > FAX: (512)330-0410 > clife at austin.rr.com > > SECURITY & PRIVACY NOTICE: > Please be aware that because email messages and attachments sent > between you and Cynthia A. Leiferman and the lawfirm of Cynthia A. > Leiferman, P.C. and its agents, employees or representatives ('the > firm')are transmitted over the Internet, neither Cynthia A. Leiferman > nor the firm can ensure that such messages are secure. You should be > careful in transmitting information that you consider confidential. > If you are uncomfortable with such risks, you may decide not to use > email to communicate. 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Auburn is a TOC qualifier in LD at the Semis level and in Policy at the finals level. LINCOLN DOUGLAS Katerine Everett, Vashon, WA Brendan Silk, Bainbridge, WA Josh Petersen, Tahoma, WA Lizzie Sivitz, Bainbridge, WA POLICY Sean Ghods and Steven Rowe, Mercer Island, WA Mitsu Gunsolus and Kayla Janyk, Bellingham, WA GEORGETOWN DAY Jim Gentile, director of the Georgetown Day Invitational, has certified the 2009 TOC qualifiers. Georgetown is a Policy qualifier at the finals level. Leigh Ann Humphries and Brian Shim, Berkeley Prep, MA Chris Power and Katyna Cadle, Bishop Guertin, NH Mitch Hagney and Christian Steckler, Bishop Guertin, NH Benjamin Chang and Harah Jhaveri, Edgemont, NY Valerie Bisharat and Alex Zavell, Head Royce, CA Ken Bailey and Austin Layton, Milton, GA Ross Gordon and Ira Slemski-Pritz, New Trier, IL Nick Honegger and William Rains, Tampa Prep, Fl BLAKE Shane Stafford, director of the Blake Invitational, has certified the 2009 TOC qualifiers. Blake is a qualifier in both Policy and LD at the quarter-finals level, and Public Forum at the Finals level POLICY Anshu Sathian and Rajesh Jegadeesh, Westminster, GA Jillian Jordan and Tamar Kaplan, Highland Park, MN Chris Power and Katryna Cadle, Bishop Guertin, NH Colin Quinn and Alec Zimmer, Glenbrook South, Il Will Thibeau and Richard Day, Glenbrook South, IL Hao Shen and Apoorv Kumar, Lexington, MA Jennifer Armstrong and Peyton Lee, Paca, Ga Russ Gordon and Ira Slomski-Pritz, New Trier, Il LINCOLN DOUGLAS Chris Theis, Apple Valley, MN Christian Keil, LakeVille South, MN David McNeil, Edina, MN Matt Dunay, Bronx Science, NY Ken Hershey, Scarsdale, NY Tess McNulty, Milburn, NJ Sean Nadel, Harvard Westlake, CA Alex Zhang, Pace, GA PUBLIC FORUM Chip Sinton and Will Miller, Laje Highland, FL Klayton Hiland and Connor Shields, West, IA JW Patterson, TOC Founder From delliott at kckcc.edu Thu Mar 12 18:42:34 2009 From: delliott at kckcc.edu (Darren Elliott) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:42:34 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Please finalize CEDA info/judging Message-ID: <49B9579A0200009300026984@mymail.kckcc.edu> Please finalize your judging for CEDA Nationals. From the looks of it the tournament is about 30+ rounds short. If you have not fulfilled your commitment, please do so by entering that judging on debateresults. After tomorrow I will disable entry so Gary can begin downloading information. He would like to turn judge prefs on by Tuesday. Please make any last minute changes asap. Thanks, chief Darren Elliott Director of Debate and Forensics--KCKCC CEDA President From odekirk.scott at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 21:46:36 2009 From: odekirk.scott at gmail.com (scott odekirk) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:46:36 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] ISU needs to hire 8 rounds at CEDA Message-ID: <724663690903121946g295c8080laf6bb75350bebfbb@mail.gmail.com> 30 dollars a round, cash. hit me up. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any other people attending the tournament with you -- other debaters, judges, alums, parents, etc. -- must be counted as observers. The $115.00 observer fee represents the actual cost of the food provided at the tournament and includes 7 meal functions. In response to some requests from people last year, you can pay your NDT subscription fee for next year at this year's tournament. If you plan to do that, please note that in the space marked "other" on the payment form. If you need a separate receipt for your subscription fee, please indicate that on the form so that I can have one prepared for you. You can pay your fees by credit card, check, or cash. If you are planning to pay by credit card you must fill out the information on your credit card so that I can get the card approved for the charge ahead of time. I plan to actually conduct the pre-approval process on Wednesday, March 23, so you don't have to worry about a charge going on your credit card any earlier than that date. Please note that we accept MasterCard and Visa only -- no American Express. Checks should be made payable to "The National Debate Tournament." We use the American Forensic Association's Federal Tax ID Number. If you need that number, it is: 386069238. Please do not hesitate to ask any questions if any of this is unclear. Please return the form as soon as possible. Sherry Hall Treasurer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090313/c6e2e413/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Since it may not seem intuitive, here's how you should communicate that intention. The judge that is selling rounds should be listed under his/her own affiliation. Their total obligation (covering their own and hired out) should be listed. The comment section should then make clear who the hired out rounds are to be credited to. The school that is hiring judges should also enter a comment that says who is covering their missing rounds. I can then match them all up. Thanks, GARY PS As always, I am desperately in need of additional rounds, preferably volunteer (contact Chief for his round (of drinks) for a round (or judging), but hired if you prefer. Please contact me with your willingness to judge additional rounds. The entire community will thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We will be attending Woodward Nationals and most likely NDCA. Capitol Debate in partnership with the Howard County School System oversees the debate teams. Capitol Debate is looking to hire a full time coach for the Howard County teams for the 2009-2010 season. As an employee of Capitol Debate, the person will: Coach the Novice and Varsity teams Oversee strategy and evidence production Travel to Debate Tournaments with Teams Run Debate Practices Listen to practice Debates & Redos Teach Workshops during school year for Middle School Debate Help with running the program Other duties of a debate coach The ideal candidate is someone that has experience successfully coaching on the National level. We are not seeking a satellite coach but instead someone that can move to this area to coach full time. Having a reliable means of transportation is important. Salary dependent on experience. To apply for this position, please send a cover letter that details your success coaching debate on the national level, salary requirements, resume, and 3 names that can serve as references to: Capitol Debate Human Resources 10770 Folkestone Way Woodstock, Maryland 21163 Or Email to: hr at capitol-debate.com I am at ADA nationals right now and will be at JV/Novice Nationals at Woodward, NDCA and TOC if you have questions. We will be requiring in person interviews in Howard County Maryland. Ronald Bratt Founder Capitol Debate http://www.capitol-debate.com bratt at capitol-debate.com From shahall at comcast.net Sat Mar 14 10:56:38 2009 From: shahall at comcast.net (Sherry Hall) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:56:38 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Clarification on NDT Fees Message-ID: <044c01c9a4bd$75bbb5a0$24a86041@PowerspecPc> There seems to be some confusion as to how to calculate your fees for the NDT. Basically, you must pay for every person in attendance. Each person is either a participant or an observer. To determine whether your people are participants or observers, count four people for each team as a participant ($50.00 each) and all additional people as an observer ($115.00). Another way to think about it is that each team costs $300.00 -- the $100.00 team fee that covers the administrative costs of running the tournament, and a $50.00 per person for four people fee, which covers a portion of the food costs. The $115.00 for the observers represents the actual cost of all the meal functions. The participant fee is lower because some of the food costs are subsidized by UT, and other generous donors to the tournament. So, if you have one team and five people you owe: $100.00 team fee $200.00 participant fee $115.00 observer fee _________________ $415.00 total fees Please let me know if you have any more questions. Thanks, Sherry Hall Treasurer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:19:12 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Alternative Debate Workshop! Message-ID: <650DB0CBB8E8E3418E627BD179329677F94774E9C9@XMAIL2.sooner.net.ou.edu> Hello, I have been considering this for years, now its going to happen. This will occur on a first come first serve basis. If we get more than 20 participants, we will consider adding more slots. We have the space, we just do not want to plan for something too large. Dates - June 12-22 Location - Loon Lake - Up-State New York in the Adirondacks. The goal of the workshop will be to provide an atmosphere for critical thought amongst those who share desires and aspirations for alternatives styles of debate and argumentation methods. The rate will be a flat rate and should be below a thousand and will include healthy meals respecting vegetarian and vegan diets. If you are interested, please send me an email proclaiming your interests. Best, Jackie Massey OU Debate debate at ou.edu From delliott at kckcc.edu Sun Mar 15 14:18:39 2009 From: delliott at kckcc.edu (Darren Elliott) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:18:39 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] CEDA Entries Closed Message-ID: <49BD0E3F0200009300026AC2@mymail.kckcc.edu> Any changes that need to be made to your CEDA entry must be emailed to both Gary Larson and myself. This includes name changes, partner switches, cancellations, judge additions or deletions, etc. Gary's email is Gary.N.Larson at Wheaton.Edu My email is delliott at kckcc.edu According to debateresults we are still about 32 rounds short on judging. If you have not made prior arrangements with me and have not covered your commitment you need to email us the judge info for those who will cover your commitment. Please notify me if you are interested in the round for a round promotion or if you are just willing to donate rounds to the tournament. 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090315/59c41210/attachment.htm From blakegil at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 00:56:12 2009 From: blakegil at gmail.com (Blake Gilson) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:56:12 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Full-time Salary Question - UH Policy Debate Coach Message-ID: <1343c7ea0903152256t2762bf88hefb503605ef18096@mail.gmail.com> My name is Blake Gilson and I am leaning efforts at the University of Houston to ensure the existence of a policy debate program. We have a ?Forensics Director? who strictly an IE coach and we have been pushing for a fulltime policy debate coach for sometime. Even in this economic condition we believe we can make significant headway. We have been asked by the university administration to provide figures on how much it would cost to employ a full-time policy debate coach. What is the normal salary for a full-time policy debate coach? I am thinking that it can radically vary but is there a range? What do you think UH would need to offer to attract interested candidates? Is it the norm that the coach also be a professor? Does anyone have some type a packet of information for new schools or documentation on what is the best way to make this happen? At one point I had heard of such documentation existing. Any and all advice is much appreciated. You can email me directly at: blakegil at gmail.com -Blake Gilson UH Policy Debate -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From jeffrey.jarman at wichita.edu Mon Mar 16 06:52:51 2009 From: jeffrey.jarman at wichita.edu (Jeffrey Jarman) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:52:51 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] NJDDT Elim Pairings Message-ID: <222D946018ACA2498D1BC87ED98438500A64667407@Poseidon.las.wichita.edu> Rounds at 8am. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090316/546c22f0/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: NJDDT_JV_Octa.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 19483 bytes Desc: NJDDT_JV_Octa.pdf Url : http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090316/546c22f0/attachment.pdf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For instance, you can have 1,1,1,4 but not 2,2,2,4 or 3,3,3,4 for your top four judges. If you have questions don't hesitate to ask me. If your judges have constraints that are not listed in Bruschke's system, please communicate them directly to me. Thanks, GARY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090316/44855754/attachment.htm From katsulas at bc.edu Mon Mar 16 08:41:59 2009 From: katsulas at bc.edu (John Katsulas) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:41:59 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] thanks to Appalachian state Message-ID: On behalf of the Boston College debaters and coaches, I would like to thank Kris and Mariam Willis for hosting a spectacular ADA Nationals tournament. My debaters, who are harsh food critics, uniformly declared that the App State lunch was the best they have ever eaten at a debate tournament. The lunch included grilled hamburgers and chicken sandwiches and deep fried french fries made on site. Absolutely delicious!!! John Katsulas From kristopherwillis at hotmail.com Mon Mar 16 08:49:10 2009 From: kristopherwillis at hotmail.com (Kris Willis) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:49:10 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] ADA Congrats Message-ID: Hello Everyone! It was a true pleasure to host all of you who came to Boone for ADA Nationals! I wanted to send a Congrats to Mary Washington, Liberty, Vandy and Clarion for great tournaments. When I receive the final and official results I will post them to edebate. I also wanted to say Congrats to Sean Lowry for winning the Julia Burke award as well. It was a very good group of candidates, all deserving. Kris and Mariam _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. 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And having Katsulas praise the food offered at a debate tournament is unheard of! --Neil Berch West Virginia University ----- Original Message ----- From: John Katsulas To: edebate at ndtceda.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: [eDebate] thanks to Appalachian state On behalf of the Boston College debaters and coaches, I would like to thank Kris and Mariam Willis for hosting a spectacular ADA Nationals tournament. My debaters, who are harsh food critics, uniformly declared that the App State lunch was the best they have ever eaten at a debate tournament. The lunch included grilled hamburgers and chicken sandwiches and deep fried french fries made on site. Absolutely delicious!!! John Katsulas _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bronx, NY - Mitch Hagney and Christian Steckler, Bronx, NY Katryna Cadle and Chris Power, Bishop Guertin, NH Megan Cambre and Jeff Zhang, Bishop Guertin, NH Megan Cambre and Jeff Zhang, Chattahoochee High, GA Vanova Robles-Naves and Melvin Washington, Ft Lauderdale, FL Tyler Boykin and Chris Mair, Ft Lauderdale, FL Sam Page and Hershal Mehta> Montgomery Bell, TN Kyle Demming and Daniel Powers, St. John's, NY LINCOLN DOUGLAS Alex Castro, A.L. Johnson, Erik Legried, Blake, MN Matt Dunay, Bronx, NY Alex Bores, Hunter College, NY Tess McNulty, Millburn High, NJ JM, Mountain View James McElwain, Potomac, VA Tyler Cook, Salado, TX PUBLIC FORUM Ryan Carrol and Alexander Hails, Chaminade, NY Luke Elder and Max Elder, Manchester Essex Bill Humphrey and Ben Tolkin, > Newton South, MA Joseph Gasperetti and Jimmy Lampariello, Regis, NY ?Joe Setaro and Thomas White, Regis, NY Drew Marconi and Alex Powers, Regis, NY Brian Cronin and Shane Regan, Regis, NY Alex Bai and Francis Suh, Ridge, FLORIDA BLUE KEY James Gerrare, director of the Florida Blue Key, has certified the 2009 TOC qualifiers. Blue Key qualifies at the finals level in LD and Policy; at the Octafinals in Public Forum, and the Semi"s in Congress. LINCOLN DOUGLAS Akshay Kumar, Southside High School, SC Coral Rojas, Ft. Lauderdale High School, FL POLICY Nick Honegger & William Rains, Tampa Preparatory, FL Adam Alvarez & Marc Milani, Christopher Columbus, FL PUBLIC FORUM Ben Berk & John Wheeler, Pinecrest School, NC Zach Allaun & Troy Baker, Buchholz High School, FL Robert Kindman & Josh Zoffer, Durham Academy, NC Mickael Silangil & Brian Zakarin, J.P. Taravella High School Brad Woods & David Zuniga, Dreyfoos School, FL Opmes Small & Kylie Gardner, Sarasota, FL Tad Ewald & Kaitlyn Westerberg, Timber Creek, FL Vincent Dale & Erik Dettenmayer, Pine View, FL Austin Criden & Amanda Scherker, Ransom Everglades, FL Daniel Hausman & Dominic Peters, Stoneman Douglas, FL Jordan Flanzraich & Harrison Grussmark, Ransom Everglades, FL Amanda Klopp & Taylor Paulson, Jupiter, FL Graeme Crews & Leigha Mataosky, Academic Magnet School,FL Lauren Barriere & Joe Robinson, Nova High School,FL Charles Barr & Jose Bengochea, Ransom Everglades High School,FL Scott Miller & Cory Yeffet, Michael Krop High School,FL STUDENT CONGRESS Mike DeRosa, American Heritage Plantation, FL Rafael Perez, American Heritage Plantation, FL Eric Moussa, Belen Jesuit, FL Joseph Perretta, Christopher Columbus, Fl Anna Wang, Cypress Bay HS, FL Meagan McCarthy, Dreyfoos SOA, FL Alicia Barrosa, G. Holmes Braddock, FL Mercedes Guillot, G. Holmes Braddock, FL Brady Nails, Hopewell High, FL Chip Sinton, Lake Highland Prep, FL Jorge Diaz, Legacy HS, FL Alexandra Henriques, Lourdes Academy, FL Brian Lynn, Martin County HS, FL Sarah Rocheleau, Martin County HS, FL Elena Botella, Myers Park, NC Vicky Cheng, Myers Park, NC Tanvika Gupta, Myers Park, NC Manisha Sadanani, Myers Park, NC Priyang Shah, Myers Park, NC Azan Antar, Myers Park , NC Rafe Kettler, Myers Park , NC Amir Parikh, Myers Park , NC Tyler Corbin, Niceville HS, FL Katie James, Northland Christian School, TX Max Wexler, Nova High School, FL Jacob Gilson, Nova High School, FL Robert Hill, Nova High School, FL Grace Ooi, Nova High School, FL Eli Polsky, Nova High School, FL Michael Scawly-Adelman, Nova High School, FL Jena Speiser, Nova High School, FL Anna Tsotsias, Nova High School, FL Amanda Hawk, Paxon SAS, FL Joey Rasmus, Pinecrest School, NC Matt Shuster, Pinecrest School, NC Alex Pacheco, Royal Palm Beach High School, FL Rey Escobar, St. Thomas Aquinas , FL Chris Madio, St. Thomas Aquinas , FL Kevin Paffrath, St. Thomas Aquinas , FL Francis Rodriguez, St. Thomas Aquinas , FL Kelly Scurry, St. Thomas Aquinas , FL Danneile Davis, Suncoast High School, FL Andres Ramirez, Suncoast High School, FL Aparna Bhattacharya, Suncoast High School, FL Neal Chandra , Suncoast High School, FL Bo Lint, Suncoast High School, FL Christian May, Suncoast High School, FL Brad Gross, J.P. Taravella, FL Andrew Block, Trinity Preparatory School, FL Geoffrey Block, Trinity Preparatory School, FL Jessica Brunelle, Trinity Preparatory School, FL Dhruv Ranadive, Trinity Preparatory School, FL Matt Schaffer, Trinity Preparatory School, FL Rey Verani , Trinity Preparatory School, FL Shaina Sklar, Unionville High School, FL Amanda DeStefano, Western High School, FL Michael Stechssuite, Western High School, FL Appy Ali , Western High School, FL Robert Colonel, Winter Springs High School, FL Joseph Giacona, Winter Springs High School, FL JW Patterson, TOC FOUNDER From uwgdebate at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 09:49:46 2009 From: uwgdebate at gmail.com (michael hester) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:49:46 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] assignments Message-ID: <2e0f7ba70903160749t4c8a32bft7bf50a3451024ca6@mail.gmail.com> yeah, i think i can have the rice genealogy aff done by tonight. those cards i found on chinese farmers are sweet, huh? lol. obvi, the taoism k will be part of that file (it's better as an add-on or answer to disads, but i'll make sure there's a version of the 1ac that has a taoism adv). btw, i think this aliens arg is gonna work, just not sure if it's aff or neg. it took me forever, but i finally found the backfile on the greys. and we definitely have cards saying slaughterhouses are a cover for cow mutilation experiments. we can either run it on the aff (end cafo subsidies as a means of ending secret agreement with the greys?) or as a neg (ending subsidies to cafos violates the treaty w/ the greys, causes war?). i kinda like the latter better - we need cafo strats, and we already have other new affs. oh shit, and get this, i found some cards on how the experiments carry over into school lunch programs! (might make 'consult the greys' cp a sweet strat against harv rs?) now that i've found those cards, i'll work on the rest. may not have it done by ceda, but definitely by ndt. here are the other files i'll have done before ceda: 1) should 'past tense' t (if you still have that list of historical reductions in subs, send it to me, i can't find mine) 2) soil erosion good (already have the microbes scenario done, finishing up the dirt first arg) 3) white power good (the towson and uco bison stuff is complete, need a few more cards for the eugenics scenario vs critical dairy) 4) Counterfactuals (slavery good scenario vs cotton affs is done, solar cars vs biofuels needs more ev) 5) k of "intolerance" (definitely works against the critical dairy affs, but can't find the cards we need to run against oklahoma) 5) breast-feeding shift bad (it's better as a disad vs policy dairy affs, but i may be able to make it some kind of k vs critical dairy) 6) genealogy of rice aff sine the the other stuff (aliens, gates/buffett cp, and fasting k alt) are more for ndt, i'll wait to work on them. hester p.s. - that zucchini bread was awesome! thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Will Thibeau nd Richard Day, Glenbrook South, IL Tyler Boykin and Richard Day, Fort Lauderdale, FL Brittany Nehman and Matthew Pesoe, Woodward Academy, GA Quinn Powell and Chris Duran, Notre Dame, CA Andrew Murray and Alex Nasr, Colleyville, TX Andrew Markoff and Regan Bozman, Bronx, NY Sagar Vijay and Will Rafey, Bellarmine, CA Collin Poirot and Rett Young, Highland Park, TX Flynn Makuch and Victor Shao, Glenbrook North, Il Dylan Carpenter and Ira Slomsk, New Trier, Il Craig Smyser and Layne Kirshon, Kinkade, TX Laurel Mills and Timothy Knoedler, Sheboygan North, WI MEADOWS Dan Myers, director of the Ld division of the Meadows Invitational, has certified the 2009 qualifiers, and Tim Alderete, tournament director, has certified the policy qualifiers. Meadows is a TOC qualifier in both divisions at the semifinals level. LINCOLN DOUGLAS Kevin Coltin, Brophy College Prep, Arizona Tess McNulty, Milburn, NJ Ben Schifberg, South Eugene, OR JP Gooderham, Upper St. Claire, PA POLICY ? Clara Purk, West Taylor Layton, NV Bato & Greg Rodarte, Damien Christian, CA ?? ???????????? IOWA CAUCUS Warren Sprouse, director of the Iowa Caucus, has certified the 2009 TOV qualifiers. The Caucus is a TOC qualifier in both LD and Policy at the semifinals level, LINCOLN DOUGLAS Jack Mullaney, Edina, MN Chris Conway, New Trier, IL Ross Brown, Valley, Iowa Conor Doherty, Hopkins, MN POLICY Bernick and Ciborowski, Henry Sibley, MN Jordan and Kaplan, Highland Park. MN Quam and Johnson, St Paul Central, MN Curran and Bingham, Walter Payton, NY - RUFUS KING, MILWAUKEE Adam Jacobi, tab room director of the Rufus King Congress at Milwaukee, has certified the 2009 Congress qualifiers. Rufus Hall is a Congress qualifier at the top six level. CONGRESS Alyssa Ray-Alden, Milwaukee, WI Emily Summers, Rufus King, WI Abilash Seshadri, James Madison, WI Robert Arnow, Nicolet, WI Jason Schwartz, Nicolet, WI Michelle Yang, James Madison, WI JW PATTERSON, TOC FOUNDER From beth.skinner at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 10:00:03 2009 From: beth.skinner at gmail.com (Beth Skinner) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:00:03 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Buying 2 Rds at NDT Message-ID: <4550c7380903160800h3e375fc3o37169f699a3ed910@mail.gmail.com> let me know if u want my money... Beth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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NOTE: NEW HOTEL FOR THE 2009 TOC HOLIDAY INN NORTH 1950 Newtown Pike PHONE: 859--233--0512 Room Rate: $95+ tax /per night (up to 4 in a room) EMORY Bill Newnam, Co-Director of the Barkley Forum, has certified the 2009 TOC qualifiers. Barkley Forum is an Octafinalist in Policy, LD, and Public Forum, and a Finalist in Congress. PUBLIC FORUM Chandorka and Kulp, Academic Magnet, North Charleston, SC - Kellett and Stern, Brentwood, TN Gold and Berstein, Ft. Lauderdale. FL Arnold and Smith, McCallie, Chattanooga, TN Miller and Yeffet, Michael Kropp, FL David and Dugre, Niceville, FL Barriere and Robinson, Nova Senior, FL Flanzraich and Grussmark, Ransom Everglades, FL Barr and Bengochea, Ransom Everglades, FL Scherker and Criden, Ransom Everglades, FL Marconi and Powers, Regis, NY Gulanikar and Jaishankar, St. Andrews Episcopal, MS Marr and Brewer, Southside-Greenville, SC Hayne and Chessman, Suncoast, FL Sinanan ?Sing and Friedman, Trinity Prep, FL Rittenhouse and Casariego, Trinity Prep, FL CONGRESS Jordan Foster, Boone County, KY Katie Thornton, Brentwood, TN Joseph Perretta, Christopher Columbus, FL Sam Hughes, East Chapel Hill, NC Zul Kapadia, Loyola Academy, IL Daniel Gordon, Loyola Academy, IL Hannah Hinde, Myers Park, NC Elena Botella, Myers Park, NC Alex Heim, Northland Christian, TX Katie James, Northland Christian , TX Anna Tsiotsias, Nova Sr, FL Jacob Gilson, Nova Sr, FL Jonathan Fried, Pennsbury, PA Matt Shuster, Pinecrest, FL Ray Escobar, St. Thomas Aquinas, FL Harlan Downs-Tepper, Stuyvesant, NY Bo Lint, Suncoast, FL Brad Gross, Taravella Senior, FL Shaina Sklar, Unionville HS, PA Drew Vollmer, Walt Whitman, MD Amanda Destefano, Wellington, FL LINCOLN DOUGLAS DM, Los Altos, CA LD, Hockaday, TX CT, Apple Valley, WI DR, Westlake, TX Greenhill, TX DS LP, Stoneman Douglas, FL AB, Colleyville Heritage, TX DD, Strake Jesuit College, TX CM, MBA, TN RS, Colleyville Heritage, TX BD, Westwood, TX RB, Valley, IO NP, Mountain View, CA JG, Hockaday, TX BT, Kinkaid, TX BN, Vestavia Hills, AL POLICY Chris Powers & Katryna Cadle, Bishop Guertin, NH Andrew Markoff & Regan Bozman, Bronx Science, NY Andrew Murray & Alex Nasr, Colleyville Heritage,TX Flynn Makuch & Victor Shao, Glenbrook North, IL Will Thibeau & Richard Day, Glenbrook South, IL Nupi Bhushan & Anna Litman, Greenhill, TX Collin Poirot & Rett Young, Highland Park, TX Ken Bailey & Austin Layton, Milton, GA Hershel Mehta & Sam Page, MBA, TN Ross Gordon & Ira Slomski-Pritz, New Trier, IL Jennifer Armstrong & Peyton Lee, Pace, GA Alex Miles & Alex Gulakov, ST Mark's, TX Anshu Sathian & Rajesh Jegadeesh, Westminster, GA Daniel Taylor & Ellis Allen, Westminster, GA Steven Murray & Sandra Gonzalez, Westwood, TX Brittany Nehman & Matthew Pesce, Woodward, GA JW Patterson, TOC Founder From dave at miami.edu Mon Mar 16 12:33:37 2009 From: dave at miami.edu (Steinberg, David L) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:33:37 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] NCAA Braket Contest Message-ID: Don't forget to fill in your brackets (for fun and bragging rights, only!). Go to http://08debate.mayhem.cbssports.com/brackets David L. Steinberg Director of Debate, University of Miami P.O. Box 248127 Coral Gables, Florida 33124 305-284-5553 (office) 305-284-5216 (fax) 305-926-8498 (cell) dave at miami.edu Go Canes! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090316/2f7c40cc/attachment.htm From dark_hallway15 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 16 13:42:16 2009 From: dark_hallway15 at yahoo.com (Isaac Peck) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [eDebate] Towson Spotlight... In-Reply-To: <722d7390903151915ne28f617n7a63a6006ad23672@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <147971.95976.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> First sentence of the article is factually incorrect.? By over 50. GL with the rage. --- On Sun, 3/15/09, Adam Jackson wrote: From: Adam Jackson Subject: [eDebate] Towson Spotlight... To: edebate at www.ndtceda.com Date: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 7:15 PM Just thought that I would point ya'll to a recent article written about Towson that everyone can be excited about: http://media.www.thetowerlight.com/media/storage/paper957/news/2009/03/12/News/Changing.The.Face.Of.Debate-3669560.shtml Enjoy folks. _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090316/a168e412/attachment.htm From dave at miami.edu Mon Mar 16 16:06:05 2009 From: dave at miami.edu (David L. Steinberg) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:06:05 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Bracket Manager Invitation Message-ID: <200903162106.n2GL65sC001731@ws1527.tm.cbsig.net> The bracket I sent earlier I forwarded from a reminder I received from last year's bracket set up by Aaron Kall (if you played last year, you probably got the same reminder from CBS). I don't know the password for that one. This is a new one. Play more brackets, have more fun.... This is set up to reward you more when you pick upsets correctly. You are invited to join my online NCAA March Madness bracket group! To accept this invitation and join the group, click the link below (or cut and paste the link into your browser's address bar). You'll be asked to enter the group's password before you can join. The group password is included below. http://umcom.mayhem.cbssports.com/e?referrer=MKTG_BM_INVITE Our Group password is: communication From Jacob.Thompson at unlv.edu Mon Mar 16 16:50:14 2009 From: Jacob.Thompson at unlv.edu (Jacob.Thompson at unlv.edu) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:50:14 -0700 Subject: [eDebate] desperately seeking 1 room at Austin doubletree Message-ID: PLEASE ??? single bed is OK, double is preferred It's probably faster to contact me via cell phone: (702) 809-9670 Jake Jacob Thompson, Ph.D. Director, Sanford I. Berman Debate Forum Assistant Professor In Residence Greenspun College of Urban Affairs Department of Communication Studies University of Nevada, Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway Box 45052 Las Vegas, NV 89154-4502 office (702) 895-3474 fax (702) 895-4805 cell (702) 809-9670 Rebel Debate on the web: www.unlv.edu/orgs/debate -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090316/a854e7c4/attachment.htm From sternhag at cord.edu Mon Mar 16 17:18:57 2009 From: sternhag at cord.edu (Fred Sternhagen) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:18:57 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Faculty position with coaching Message-ID: <57DFC12C6BBD9949A4EEAED5FB369441017B809B9505@CORDMAIL.cord.local> POSITION VACANCY: ASSISTANT PROFESSOR WITH DEBATE COACHING DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNICATION STUDIES AND THEATRE ART CONCORDIA COLLEGE Position: Full time, fixed term position, up to three-year appointment with possibilities for renewal up to six years. Master's degree required for appointment. Ph.D. preferred. Position begins August 2009. Duties and Normal teaching load is three courses (the equivalent of twelve semester hours) per semester. Responsibilities: Coaching duties compensated with reassigned time. Summer school teaching is possible for additional compensation. Advisement of undergraduate majors, participation in departmental projects, and involvement in college-wide activities is required. Candidates should be prepared to teach the college required basic oral communication course which includes public speaking and small group communication; other basic course offerings in the department; and to coach and travel with the debate portion of a successful, national level, joint speech and debate program. Selection 1. Excellence in classroom teaching. Graduate teaching assistantships are appropriate. Criteria: 2. Demonstrated preparation and experience in teaching public speaking and small group communication. 3. Demonstrated ability to coach within the context of an integrated speech and debate program. 4. Demonstrated preparation and experience in teaching an area of specialization appropriate to the departmental curriculum. 5. Personal philosophy in sympathy with the aims and objectives of a liberal arts college of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. 6. Masters degree in Communication Studies completed by August 1, 2009. Salary/Rank: Salary and rank are commensurate upon qualifications and level of experience. Department: 13 full-time and 6 part-time faculty. Three faculty are in theatre; two full time and two part-time are primarily in media studies; the balance are in communication studies. Currently, approximately 300 students are declared majors in the department. All departmental faculty teach the college required course in public speaking and small group communication. More information concerning Concordia may be found at: /www.cord.edu. Information about the CSTA department can be found at: www.cord.edu/Academics/CSTA/index.php and www.cord.edu/academic/catalog/departments/csta.html. Facilities: Individual faculty offices and all course offerings are housed in the Olin Communication Center. The Olin Center houses the campus radio station, a television production facility, and video editing lab. All classrooms are both video equipped and connected to the campus computer network. All faculty have access to personal as well as networked computer resources. Application Deadline: File review will begin April 10, 2009 and will be on-going until the position is filled. Application: Submit letter of application, resume, transcripts and three letters of recommendation to: http://hr.cord.edu (no "www" prefix) Questions concerning the nature of the position may be sent to: Fred Sternhagen, search committee chair CSTA Department Concordia College Moorhead, MN 56562 e-mail: sternhag at cord.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090316/554bb930/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: term contract with forensics-- position description for eDebate 3-16-09.rtf Type: application/rtf Size: 23601 bytes Desc: term contract with forensics-- position description for eDebate 3-16-09.rtf Url : http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090316/554bb930/attachment.rtf From delliott at kckcc.edu Mon Mar 16 17:54:07 2009 From: delliott at kckcc.edu (Darren Elliott) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:54:07 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Joe from Binghamton Message-ID: <49BE923F0200009300026BDB@mymail.kckcc.edu> Please give Gary Larson a shout at Gary.N.Larson at Wheaton.EDU The email we have for you bounces back. thanks, chief From todonnel at umw.edu Mon Mar 16 18:29:14 2009 From: todonnel at umw.edu (Timothy O'Donnell) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:29:14 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Pfau Obituary Message-ID: <49BEA886020000BD0008A4F4@umwgw.umw.edu> For distribution to the NDT/CEDA community, Daniel Cronn-Mills AFA, President --------- http://www.legacy.com/normantranscript/Obituaries.asp?Page=Lifestory&PersonId=125098948 Michael Walton Pfau (3/14/45-3/12/09) died in Norman, OK after a brief illness. Michael's life and career expressed his passion for research, argumentation and teaching. After graduating from Bloomington HS, he served in the US Air Force, earned his BA and MA from the University of New Hampshire, and later obtained his PhD from the University of Arizona. Dr. Pfau impacted the lives of countless students -- especially those he worked with at Alexander Ramsey HS in Roseville, MN (71-75); Augustana College in Sioux Falls, SD (75-93); the University of Wisconsin in Madison (93-01); the University of Oklahoma (01-09); and a multitude of debate institutes and tournaments. Wherever he taught, he channeled his unflagging energy to motivate and inspire students to reach their goals. He is survived by his wife of 40 years, Ginger Nelson Pfau; son, Michael (Amanda) and grandchildren, Anika and Callan; daughter, Julie Pfau; sisters Shirlene Merrill and Kelly Kuehn, as well as a multitude of beloved family members, friends, academic colleagues, and former students. He was preceded in death by his parents, Russell and Vivian Pfau. Visitation at Morris Nilsen Chapel (612-869-3226), March 17, 6-8 pm. Services at Emmaus Lutheran Church, 8443 2nd Ave S, Bloomington, MN, March 18, 11 am. Burial at Ft. Snelling National Cemetery. Local arrangements with Havenbrook Funeral Home of Norman, Oklahoma. So that he will still open doors for students even after his death, memorial contributions may be made to the University of Oklahoma Foundation (100 Timberdell Rd, Norman, OK 73019) for the Michael Pfau Scholarship Fund. Send condolences online at http://www.havenbrookfuneralhome.com/Obituaries.htm Timothy M. O'Donnell Director of Debate and Associate Professor of Speech University of Mary Washington 1201 William St., #25 Fredericksburg, VA 22401 todonnel at umw.edu (540) 654-1252 (office) (540) 654-1569 (fax) From jams0426 at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 18:44:30 2009 From: jams0426 at gmail.com (Jamie Cheek) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:44:30 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] 1 Round for Sale - NDT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Round has been sold. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090316/dd81414b/attachment.htm From mharris02 at drury.edu Mon Mar 16 19:13:50 2009 From: mharris02 at drury.edu (Martin Harris) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:13:50 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Towson Spotlight... Message-ID: <451372279EE24E4992ED27B99AC5577304A884F1@EXVS1.drury.edu> Meh, at least the first sentence says OVER 200. 250 is relatively accurately over 200. The third sentence, however, calls the team, in comparison to "teams dating back decades", relatively young. It is kind of sad I don't remember the exact timeframe Towson debate started (given I believe people should adequately know roots), but since Dr. Logue was a DVII NDT coach at Towson in '81, and I think started at least a couple of years before that even, Towson debate is equally "decades" old. Can't exactly bank on student newspapers for accuracy. Martin Harris Systems Engineer - Desktop Architecture Drury University - Technology Services 900 N Benton Ave Springfield, Missouri 65802 office: 417-873-7848 fax: 417-873-7835 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Brad Meloche (Wayne State DM) 113 169.5 2. Kyle Leinbach (George Mason JL) 112.5 168.5 3. Eddie Fitzgerald (Liberty University FH) 112.5 168 4. Amanda Atkins (Liberty University AJ) 112 168.5 5. Ben Saunders (Mary Washington DS) 112 168 6. Ryan Bass (Liberty University BP) 112 167.5 7. Jacquelyn Poapst (Liberty University BP) 111.5 167 8. Hilary Galbreaith (Mary Washington GT) 111.5 166.5 9. Adam James (George Mason JL) 111 167.5 10. Anthony Miranda (John Carroll BM) 111 166.5 Top Speakers: Novice Division 1. Kate Lacaze (Liberty University LT) 112.89 167.39 2. Rachel Mcguirk (Mary Washington HM) 112 168 3. Meghan Powers (West Virginia CP) 112 168 4. Chelsea Thompson (Liberty University LT) 111.79 166.79 5. Brendan Benedict (Boston College BF) 111.5 167.5 6. Chris Vasquez (John Carroll NV) 111.5 167 7. Melanie Darling (Liberty University DT) 111.5 165 8. Ryan Folio (Boston College AF) 111 167 9. Nick Merican (George Mason MS) 111 166.5 10. Megan Coffman (West Virginia CP) 111 166.5 ELIMINATION ROUND RESULTS IN DIVISION ONE: OPEN OCTAFINAL ROUND RESULTS Mary Washington KS Advances without debating Liberty University DG Advances without debating George Mason HO Advances without debating Wayne State PP Advances without debating James Madison CL Advances without debating Vanderbilt BN Advances without debating Trinity University BH (Neg) defeated West Virginia PS 3-0 O'donnell, Congdon, K Davis, M Wake Forest CM (Neg) defeated George Mason OR 3-0 Atchison, Butt, Neil Ryan, Nick QUARTERFINAL ROUND RESULTS Mary Washington KS (Neg) defeated Wake Forest CM 3-0 Stevenson, Grimm, Paqueo, Ni Trinity University BH (Aff) defeated Liberty University DG 3-0 Wallace, B Lyle, Jim Weiner, Ja Vanderbilt BN (Neg) defeated George Mason HO 3-0 Waldinger, Mika, Jaso Willis, Kr Wayne State PP (Aff) defeated James Madison CL 2-1 Atchison, *Sedelmyer Koch, John SEMIFINAL ROUND RESULTS Mary Washington KS (Neg) defeated Wayne State PP 2-1 *Atchison, Sedelmyer, Hall,H Vanderbilt BN (Aff) defeated Trinity University BH 2-1 Stevenson, *Ryan, N Lind, S FINAL ROUND RESULTS Mary Washington KS defeated Vanderbilt BN 3-0 Hall, Heat Noerr, Rob Atchison, ELIMINATION ROUND RESULTS IN DIVISION TWO: JV OCTAFINAL ROUND RESULTS Liberty University AJ Advances without debating Wayne State DM Advances without debating Wayne State KS Advances without debating George Mason JL Advances without debating Liberty University BP Advances without debating Liberty University FH Advances without debating Mary Washington GT Advances without debating Liberty University GT (Neg) defeated Mary Washington DS 2-1 *Verney-Og Sedelmyer, Stevenson, QUARTERFINAL ROUND RESULTS Liberty University AJ Advances Over Liberty University GT Mary Washington GT (Neg) defeated Wayne State DM 2-1 Oh, Michel *Angat, Jo Hahn,T Liberty University FH (Neg) defeated Wayne State KS 2-1 *Gayetsky, Luechtefel Martin,J Liberty University BP (Aff) defeated George Mason JL 3-0 Noerr, Rob Bonneau, S Verney-Ogo SEMIFINAL ROUND RESULTS Liberty University AJ Advances Over Liberty University BP Liberty University FH (Aff) defeated Mary Washington GT 2-1 Willis, Kr Young, Kel *Butt, Nei FINAL ROUND RESULTS Liberty University FH & Liberty University AJ Closed Out the Division _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! 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NOVICE Quarters Augustana DH advances Johnson County KT advances UNT over JCCC GS UNI over Wisconsin Oshkosh Semis UNI GN over Augustana DH JCCC KT over UNT NW Finals JCCC KT over UNI GN Congrats JCCC KT and UNI GN!! Speaker Awards Novice 1-Tyler Kowalewski (JCCC) 2-Alex Tan (JCCC) 3- Amos Waranch (UNT) 4-Christene Dino (SMU) 5-Brandie Shepherd (JCCC) 6-Bridget ISnardi (WIcsonsin) 7-Jay Frank (Minnesota) 8-Jennifer Nutley (UNI) JV 1-Derek Ziegler (KSU) 2-Patrick Kennedy (KU) 3-Creighton Coleman (WSU) 4-Mathew Petersen (KU) 5-Andrew Jack (KU JW) 6-Daniel Rowe (UNT) 7-Zack Malitz (UNT) 8-Logan Chin (Minnesota) 9-caitlin Reynolds (KSU) 10-Alex Bonnet (UMKC BB) 11-Daryl Pinto (Minnesota PS) 12-Michael Ely (UCO) 13-Josh Davis (UCO) 14- Toni Jantz (UMKC) 15-Andrew Allsup (UMKC AB) 16-Matt Munday (WSU) 17-Mark Wilkins (KU) The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. 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From teasley3 at jccc.edu Mon Mar 16 23:26:35 2009 From: teasley3 at jccc.edu (Terri Easley) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:26:35 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] NJDDT results Message-ID: <8F1214AF088DD246A7A0B489E89441321EFF7FC7D5@ac-ex07mb1.employee.directory.jccc> JV Partial Doubles UMKC BB advances over UMKC AB Octafinals KU KP over UMKC BB KU JW over Minnesota KS Minnesota Ch over UNT DS Kansas State GZ over Missouri State HR UNT MR over Missouri State KR Wichita State CM over Missouir State HH Kansas State Dr advances over Kansas State/JCCC HM Missouri State GS over UMKC JS Quarters KU KP over MIssouri State GS KU JW over Kansas State DR Minnesota CH over Wichita State CM Kansas State GZ over UNT MR Semis KU JW over Minnesota CH KU KP over Kansas State GZ Finals KU KP and KU JW Congrats to Kansas!!! NOVICE Quarters Augustana DH advances Johnson County KT advances UNT over JCCC GS UNI over Wisconsin Oshkosh Semis UNI GN over Augustana DH JCCC KT over UNT NW Finals JCCC KT over UNI GN Congrats JCCC KT and UNI GN!! Speaker Awards Novice 1-Tyler Kowalewski (JCCC) 2-Alex Tan (JCCC) 3- Amos Waranch (UNT) 4-Christene Dino (SMU) 5-Brandie Shepherd (JCCC) 6-Bridget ISnardi (WIcsonsin) 7-Jay Frank (Minnesota) 8-Jennifer Nutley (UNI) JV 1-Derek Ziegler (KSU) 2-Patrick Kennedy (KU) 3-Creighton Coleman (WSU) 4-Mathew Petersen (KU) 5-Andrew Jack (KU JW) 6-Daniel Rowe (UNT) 7-Zack Malitz (UNT) 8-Logan Chin (Minnesota) 9-caitlin Reynolds (KSU) 10-Alex Bonnet (UMKC BB) 11-Daryl Pinto (Minnesota PS) 12-Michael Ely (UCO) 13-Josh Davis (UCO) 14- Toni Jantz (UMKC) 15-Andrew Allsup (UMKC AB) 16-Matt Munday (WSU) 17-Mark Wilkins (KU) The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. 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ELIMINATION ROUND RESULTS IN DIVISION THREE: NOVICE OCTAFINAL ROUND RESULTS Liberty University LT Advances without debating West Virginia CP Advances without debating Liberty University AH Advances without debating Liberty University DT (Neg) defeated Clarion University FF 3-0 Brovero, Katsulas, Paqueo, Boston College AF (Neg) defeated Capital CN 3-0 Young, Kel Hall, Heat Decker, Wa Boston College BF (Neg) defeated George Mason BT 3-0 Lyle, Jim Noerr, Rob Lind, Step Clarion University PS (Neg) defeated Liberty University KT 2-1 *Weiner, J Wallace, Bryson Liberty University AE (Neg) defeated George Mason MS 3-0 Waldinger, Berry, S Hahn, Tayl QUARTERFINAL ROUND RESULTS Liberty University AE & Liberty University LT Clarion University PS (Neg) defeated West Virginia CP 3-0 Ryan, Nick Hall, Heat Lind, Step Liberty University AH (Aff) defeated Boston College BF 3-0 Berry, S Davis, Mik O'donnell, Liberty University DT (Neg) defeated Boston College AF 3-0 Butt, Neil Brovero, A Mcdaniel, SEMIFINAL ROUND RESULTS Liberty University LT Advances Over Liberty University DT Clarion University PS (Neg) defeated Liberty University AH 2-1 O'donnell, *Brovero, Berry,S FINAL ROUND RESULTS Clarion University PS (Aff) defeated Liberty University LT 2-1 Sedelmyer, Brovero, A *O'donnell _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! 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CONGRESS Ashley Miller, Coronado High School (NV) Anna Bowman, West High School (UT) Christopher Eckerdt, The Harker School (CA) Steven Ebensberger, Trophy College Prep (AZ) Jacob Wilson, Intermountain Christian (UT) David Mihai, The Harker School (CA) Jake McInnis, Palo Verde High School (NV) Victor Cervantes, Brophy College Prep (AZ) Adrian Angulo, Rio Grande High School (NM) Moriah Saldana, Redlands High School (CA) Hayes Clement, Intermountain Christian (UT) Josh Burns, Clark High School (NV) Evan Shobert, Advanced Technologies Academy (NV) Brianna Lamanna, Advanced Technologies Academy (NV) Ben Drabik, Juan Diego Catholic High School (UT) Arash Tadjiki, West High School (UT) Jordy Barry, Green Valley High School (NV) Radha Inguva, Canyon Springs High School (NV) Sonya Chalaka, The Harker School (CA) LINCOLN DOUGLAS Meadows Jordan Lamothe, NV Meadows Amanda Signorelli, NV Meadows Adrienne Keamy, NV Corona Del Sol Paul Gu, AZ POLICY Christos Makridis & Peter Mardian, Brophy, AZ Sean Hernandez & Reid Ehrlich-Quinn, Damien, CA Greg Rodarte & Christian Bato, Damien, CA *Priya Krishna & Arnav Kejriwal, Greenhill, TX Adam Perelman & Arjun Mody, Harker, CA Melissa Leeworthy & Jordan Friedman, Rowland Hall-St. Marks, UT Ryan Blais & Kelly Del Curto, St. Vincent De Paul, CA Taylor Layton & Clara Purk, West LP, UT *Jeremy Guenette-Deutsch & Edward Mugica, Damien, CA PUBLIC FORUM John Aguilar and Bryanna O?Malley, Valley High School (NV) Terra Lee and Rachel Krahenbuhl, Lone Peak High School (UT) Noel Gordon and Audrey Darreguet, Coronado High School (NV) Hilary Williams and Aarin Kevorkian, Foothill High School (NV) Justin Bever and Veekas Shrivastava, Mesa Indep. High School (AZ) Brittney Regal and Leah Yaffe, Green Valley High School, NV) Parker Junger and Nicolas Rosa, Advanced Technologies HS (NV) Kelsey Hilbrich and Justine Liu, The Harker School (CA COLLEGE PREP Lexy Green, director of the College Prep Invitational, has certified the 2009 qualifiers. College Prep qualifies in LD at the finals level. LINCOLN DOUGLAS Daniel Garber, Mountain View (CA) Jordan LaMothe, Th Meadows (NV) CRESTIAN ? PINE CREST Daniel Lewis, director of the Crestian Pine Crest Invitational, has certified the 2009 TOC qualifies. Pine Crest qualifies in Lincoln Douglas and Public Forum at quarters, and in Congress at finals. LINCOLN DOUGLAS NORA ASHOURA, FORT LAUDERDALE, (FL) ARSENIY BANAYEV, TRINITY PREP, (FL) GURDANE BHUTANI, LAKE HIGHLAND PREP AVINASH JAYARAMAN, MORRISTOWN HS (NJ) SONAM PATEL, HILLSBOROUGH HS (FL) CORAL ROJAS. FORT LAUDERDALE HS AMRITHA SASTRY, HILLSBOROUGH HS ALEX ZHANG, PACE ACADEMY (GA) PUBLIC FORUM THADDEUS EWALD & KAITLYN WESTERBERG, TIMBER CREEK HS (FL) TROY BAKER & ZACH ALLAUN, BUCHHOLZ HS (FL) JORDAN FLANRAICH & HARRISON GRUSSMARK, RANSOM EVERGLADES GRACE WALLACH & DEDE PLESS, DURHAM ACADEMY (NC) CHARLES BARR & JOSE BENGOCHEA, RANSOM EVERGLADES JAMES SMALL & KYLIE GARDNER, SARASOTA HS GEOFFREY BLOCK & JEANINE SINANAN-SINGH, TRINITY PREP MATTHEW GOLD & CZAR BERNSTEIN, FORT LAUDERDALE HS STUDENT CONGRESS ( ALL FROM FL) APARNA BHATTACHARYA, SUNCOAST MADDY BORTES, AMERICAN HERITAGE COREY BROOKS, WEST BROWARD WEN-KUNI CEANT, NOVA MICHAEL DEROSA, AMER HERITAGE PL RAY ESCOBAR, ST. THOMAS JACOB GILSON, NOVA BRAD GROSS, TARAVELLA BO LINT, SUNCOAST STEFAN LEON, NOVA BRIAN LYNN, WESTERN ALLESSANDRO PACHECO, Royal Palm Bch. GABRIEL PAEZ, CYPRESS BAY JOSEPH PERRETTA, COLUMBUS FRANCES RODRIGUEZ, ST. THOMAS MATT SHUSTER, PINE CREST (NC) ANNA TSIOTSIAS, NOVA JW Patterson TOC Founder From kristopherwillis at hotmail.com Tue Mar 17 09:44:25 2009 From: kristopherwillis at hotmail.com (Kris Willis) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:44:25 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Graduate Assistant Positions still available? Message-ID: I have a graduating Senior whose plans have recently changed and she is interested in Graduate school for this fall. If you still have a position available and are still accepting applications, please let me know. We will be at CEDA and we can talk about it there. Thank you for your time. Kris Willis AppState Debate _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We need more rounds for preferences to be maximized and the tournament itself is still just under the number needed to run. thanks, chief Darren Elliott Director of Debate and Forensics--KCKCC CEDA President From jwpatt00 at email.uky.edu Tue Mar 17 11:22:51 2009 From: jwpatt00 at email.uky.edu (Patterson, J W) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:22:51 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] TOC QUAls: BERKELEY, Newark Message-ID: NOTE: NEW HOTEL FOR THE 2009 TOC HOLIDAY INN NORTH NOTE: NEW HOTEL FOR THE 2009 TOC HOLIDAY INN NORTH 1950 Newtown Pike PHONE: 859--233--0512 Room Rate: $95+ tax /per night (up to 4 in a room) UC-BERKELEY (Please note: Some states as listed may be wrong. Please ignore) Greg Achten, director of the Cal-Berkeley invitational, has certified the 2009 TOC quals. Berkeley is a TOC qual in Policy, Ld, and Public Forum at the octas level, and in Congress at the semi's level. POLICY Layne Kirshon and Craig Smyser, Kinkade, TX Eric Berggren and Pablo Gannon, Damien High School, CA AL and Peyton Lee, Pace Academy, GA Nathan Dupont and Natalie Sanluis, Jack C Hays, TX Alex Werner and Alex Zavell, Head Royce, CA Stacy Kapustina and Phil Sailer, Glenbrook South, IL Nupi Bhushan and Anna Litman, Greenhill School, TX Michael Luxemburg and Becca Rothfeld, Georgetown Day, DC Ross Gordon and Ira Slomski-Pritz, New Trier, IL Elli Kuenzel and Krystal Rountree, Ashland (OR) Chris Duran and Quinn Powell, Notre Dame, CA Will Rafey and Sagar Vijay, Bellarmine, CA Eunice Kim and Emma Vance, College Prep, CA Flynn Makuch and Victor Shao, Glenbrook North, IL Reid Ehrlich-quinn and Sean Hernandez, Damien, CA Sejal Parekh and Chander Ramesh, Saint Francis, CA LINCOLN DOUGLAS Jordan Lamothe, Meadows, NV Daniel Garber, Mountain View, CA Natalee Pei, Mountain View, CA Laura Bomes, Archer, CA Ben Schifberg, South Eugene, OR Michelle Keohane, Apple Valley, MN Daniel Moerner, Altos High School, NM Jeff Liu, Oak Mountain High, CA Danielle Smogard, Greenhill School, TX \ Pat Donovan, Glenbrook North, IL Catherine Tarsney, St. Louis Park, MN Alex Kennedy, College Prep, CA Chris Theis, Apple Valley High, MN Ben Holguin, Edina, MN Michael Mezzatesta, Loyola, CA Francesca Parente, Wayzata, MN PUBLIC FORUM Kaavya Gowda and Kelsey Hilbrich, Harker, CA Ankit Bhakta and Anuv Ratan, Claremont, CA Simon Huang and Dustin Tao, Leland, CA Zach Collins and Joey Glickman, New Trier, IL Gabe Neslin and Lawson Williams, George Washington, CA Justine Liu and James Seifert, Harker, CA Neil Malani and Hao Tran, Monte Vista, CA Jalal Buckley and Roxanna Haghiaghat, Saint Francis, CA Scott Miller and Cory Yeffet, Michael Krop, CA Brittney Regal and Leah Yaffe, Green Valley, CA Ashwath Chennapan and Annie Yi, Leland, CA Madi Pluss and Gabe Rusk, George Washington, CA Shahryar Abbasi and Hinh Tran, Monte Vista, CA Joe Eichenbaum and David Walchek, New Trier, IL Quinn Buniel and Lance Castillo, Frontier, CA Gurjot Mattu and Jonathan Wu, James Logan, CA CONGRESS Uzair Khan, Dougherty Valley, CA Matthew Lee, Dougherty Valley, CA Katherine Zhang, Dougherty Valley, CA Bryan Hickman, Foothill Technology - Zachary Isaacs, Head Royce, CA Mason Satterwhite, Los Altos, CA Jason Alafgani, Lowell, CA Varut Chee, Mark Keppel, CA Sean Hamamoto, Mark Keppel, CA Tiffany Luong, Mark Keppel, CA Rebecca Pottash, Marlborough, CA Dylan Schwartz, Miami Country Day, FL Matthew Gruda, Michael Krop, CA Alec Bahramipour, Miramonte, CA Talia Citron, Miramonte, CA Anirudh Sapru, Miramonte, CA David Tse, Miramonte, CA Spencer Whittaker, Miramonte, CA Karna Adam, Monte Vista, CA Jason Kim, Monte Vista, CA Jason Zhao, Monte Vista, CA Nick Macklin, Snohomish, CA Danviet Doan, Westfield High, CA Kurt Spindler, Miramonte, CA Carson States, Silverton, CA Jonathan Ma, Mark Keppel, CA Alvin Huang, Mark Keppel, CA Robert Sanchez, Mountain View, CA Stephen Kui, Monte Vista, CA Rhys Seiffe, New Trier, IL Michael Harris, North Hollywood, CA Siteng Ma, Little Rock Central, AR Cheryl Hori, Miramonte, CA Alia Fite, Miramonte, CA Sam Stone, Monte Vista - Rylan Schaeffer, Mountain View, CA Winston Chang, Arcadia Debate Forum, CA David Sun, Mark Keppel, CA Jonathan Haderlein, North Hollywood, CA Louis Li, Monte Vista, CA Brendan Bashin-Sullivan,Miramonte, CA Nipun Bhandari, Monte Vista, CA Sebastian DeLuca, Monte Vista, CA NEWARK Jonathan Alston User, director of the Newark Invitational, has certified the 2009 TOC quals. Newark qualifies in LD at the finals level. LINCOLN DOUGLAS Jared Dummitt, Stuyvesant, NY Zak Pyzik, Pocono Mountain, PA JW Patterson, TOC FOUNDER From lifer-hat at hotmail.com Tue Mar 17 15:15:47 2009 From: lifer-hat at hotmail.com (bandana organizer ) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:15:47 +0000 Subject: [eDebate] "Fairness - white ppl guilty until proven innocent"? Message-ID: Apparently (non-list emails inform me) this is not an error. I assumed it was a misquote, since I can't imagine a context in which the sentence in this subject line could be applied to any other ethnic or religious group without a total vocal rejection by this community. Can you imagine any of these being said in a round? "Fairness - Irish ppl guilty until proven innocent" "Fairness - bisexual ppl guilty until proven innocent" "Fairness - Francophone ppl guilty until proven innocent" "Fairness - fat ppl guilty until proven innocent" "Fairness - brown ppl guilty until proven innocent" "Fairness - Catholic ppl guilty until proven innocent" "Fairness - vegan ppl guilty until proven innocent" Here, again, is the context available on the wiki: http://opencaselist.wikispaces.com/page/diff/Pre+Wake+08+Towson+JM+Adam+Jackson+%26+Deverick+Murray+Neg/46612713 Maybe it's some sort of joke ("White people drive like this, but black people drive like this!"). Also, maybe my imagination isn't very good, but I can't imagine a context in which this sort of claim isn't false, hurtful, demeaning, and reductionist. -----Original Message----- From: bandana organizer Sent: 3/16/2009 6:25:23 AM To: Adam Jackson , edebate at www.ndtceda.com Subject: [eDebate] "Fairness - white ppl guilty until proven innocent"? From http://opencaselist.wikispaces.com/page/diff/Pre+Wake+08+Towson+JM+Adam+Jackson+%26+Deverick+Murray+Neg/46612713 That's a transcription error, right? -----Original Message----- From: Adam Jackson Sent: 3/16/2009 2:15:41 AM To: edebate at www.ndtceda.com Subject: [eDebate] Towson Spotlight... Just thought that I would point ya'll to a recent article written about Towson that everyone can be excited about: http://media.www.thetowerlight.com/media/storage/paper957/news/2009/03/12/News/Changing.The.Face.Of.Debate-3669560.shtml Enjoy folks. _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate From Jeffrey.Jarman at wichita.edu Tue Mar 17 15:23:55 2009 From: Jeffrey.Jarman at wichita.edu (Jarman, Jeffrey) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:23:55 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] NJDDT Packet - second try Message-ID: <42558793D89D414BB16A72C7F4CAFACD03F3FEFCC0@exchange-01.ad.wichita.edu> I sent the packet yesterday, but the file is very large. It might not make it through to edebate. I've posted it online at: http://www.cedadebate.org/files/2009_NJDDT_Packet.pdf Jeff From matthewfarm at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 15:25:04 2009 From: matthewfarm at gmail.com (matthew farmer) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:25:04 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] NDT rounds sold Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090317/ac2c7db8/attachment.htm From ML.Sandoz at Vanderbilt.Edu Tue Mar 17 15:29:43 2009 From: ML.Sandoz at Vanderbilt.Edu (Sandoz, M L) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:29:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [eDebate] Looking for 1 more NDT hotel room Message-ID: <2730.129.59.250.146.1237321783.squirrel@vuwebmail.vanderbilt.edu> Is anyone cancelling a current reservation? ------------------------------------------------- Sandoz, M L Director of Debate Vanderbilt University Email: mary.l.sandoz at Vanderbilt.Edu From davismk13 at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 15:33:09 2009 From: davismk13 at gmail.com (Mike Davis) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:33:09 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Rounds for sale at the NDT Message-ID: <9a7f6f740903171333x6054e35fv34c5be8c785e798@mail.gmail.com> I have up to 8 rounds for sale for the NDT. Let me know if you are interested. Mike -- Dr. Michael Davis Director of Debate/Assistant Professor James Madison University From wrist_meetrazor at hotmail.com Tue Mar 17 16:04:55 2009 From: wrist_meetrazor at hotmail.com (chris loghry) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:04:55 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] =?windows-1256?q?Wake_GL_/_Northwestern_MS_or_delete=FE?= Message-ID: Could you all backchannel me about some cite requests? thanks, loghry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090317/2d14a629/attachment.htm From kenrjohnson at msn.com Tue Mar 17 16:05:30 2009 From: kenrjohnson at msn.com (Ken Johnson) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:05:30 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Novice at CEDA Nats -- anybody have any teams? Message-ID: We will have two teams of novices at CEDA Nats. Anybody else bringing people? Ken Rochester. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090317/2f8cb8fa/attachment.htm From bk2nocal at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 18:21:35 2009 From: bk2nocal at gmail.com (Sue Peterson) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:21:35 -0700 Subject: [eDebate] Novice at CEDA Nats -- anybody have any teams? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <417507f50903171621r23dfc9a8kfb4e6a0f2c27f3f5@mail.gmail.com> We will have one... Sue Sue Peterson, Director of Speech and Debate at CSU Chico sepeterson at csuchico.edu 530-898-4771 "Girl Effect, n. The powerful social and economic change brought about when girls have the opportunity to participate in their society." http://www.girleffect.org/#/home/ ?In teaching you cannot see the fruit of a day?s work. It is invisible and remains so, maybe for twenty years.? ? Jacques Barzun 2009/3/17 Ken Johnson > We will have two teams of novices at CEDA Nats. Anybody else bringing > people? > > Ken > Rochester. > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090317/84dcaa11/attachment.htm From delliott at kckcc.edu Tue Mar 17 19:44:47 2009 From: delliott at kckcc.edu (Darren Elliott) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:44:47 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Jordan Foley please Message-ID: <49BFFDAF0200009300026C86@mymail.kckcc.edu> Jordan, Please check fb and get back to me asap. thanks, chief From kristopherwillis at hotmail.com Tue Mar 17 20:07:43 2009 From: kristopherwillis at hotmail.com (Kris Willis) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:07:43 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Novice at CEDA Nats -- anybody have any teams? In-Reply-To: <417507f50903171621r23dfc9a8kfb4e6a0f2c27f3f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <417507f50903171621r23dfc9a8kfb4e6a0f2c27f3f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: We have one too. Kris Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:21:35 -0700 From: bk2nocal at gmail.com To: kenrjohnson at msn.com CC: edebate at ndtceda.com Subject: Re: [eDebate] Novice at CEDA Nats -- anybody have any teams? We will have one... Sue Sue Peterson, Director of Speech and Debate at CSU Chico sepeterson at csuchico.edu 530-898-4771 "Girl Effect, n. The powerful social and economic change brought about when girls have the opportunity to participate in their society." http://www.girleffect.org/#/home/ ?In teaching you cannot see the fruit of a day?s work. It is invisible and remains so, maybe for twenty years.? ? Jacques Barzun 2009/3/17 Ken Johnson We will have two teams of novices at CEDA Nats. Anybody else bringing people? Ken Rochester. _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090317/ed5cf394/attachment.htm From oguevara at hotmail.com Tue Mar 17 21:22:56 2009 From: oguevara at hotmail.com (omar guevara) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:22:56 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Novice at CEDA Nats -- anybody have any teams? In-Reply-To: References: <417507f50903171621r23dfc9a8kfb4e6a0f2c27f3f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I could have come up with some if I knew in advance it was going down. OG Omar G Guevara II Director of Forensics Department of Communication College of Arts & Humanities Weber State University Ogden, Utah 801.626.6220 (Office) 801.668.6910 (Cell) Oguevara at hotmail.com Oguevara at weber.edu PLEASE VISIT: WWW.WEBERDEBATE.COM From: kristopherwillis at hotmail.com To: bk2nocal at gmail.com; kenrjohnson at msn.com Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:07:43 -0400 CC: edebate at ndtceda.com Subject: Re: [eDebate] Novice at CEDA Nats -- anybody have any teams? We have one too. Kris Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:21:35 -0700 From: bk2nocal at gmail.com To: kenrjohnson at msn.com CC: edebate at ndtceda.com Subject: Re: [eDebate] Novice at CEDA Nats -- anybody have any teams? We will have one... Sue Sue Peterson, Director of Speech and Debate at CSU Chico sepeterson at csuchico.edu 530-898-4771 "Girl Effect, n. The powerful social and economic change brought about when girls have the opportunity to participate in their society." http://www.girleffect.org/#/home/ ?In teaching you cannot see the fruit of a day?s work. It is invisible and remains so, maybe for twenty years.? ? Jacques Barzun 2009/3/17 Ken Johnson We will have two teams of novices at CEDA Nats. Anybody else bringing people? Ken Rochester. _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See how. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090317/9c0f35a0/attachment.htm From johntheempire at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 21:42:21 2009 From: johntheempire at gmail.com (John Cook) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:42:21 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Jordan Foley please Message-ID: <5bfb770b0903171942u410e7feaxf236fcc339a9427f@mail.gmail.com> After reading the subject, I presume the body reads: "...cut the frollet ." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090317/22f48442/attachment.htm From Jeffrey.Jarman at wichita.edu Tue Mar 17 22:37:14 2009 From: Jeffrey.Jarman at wichita.edu (Jarman, Jeffrey) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:37:14 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] CEDA Exec Sect Report Message-ID: <42558793D89D414BB16A72C7F4CAFACD03F3FEFCC8@exchange-01.ad.wichita.edu> Hello everyone: There are a few issues for everyone to consider in the days before the national tournament. All of this info is available at http://www.cedadebate.org (1) Sweepstakes points. The points have been calculated based on the information on debateresults. The current standings are available online here. PLEASE, review your points and let me know if there is a problem. I believe the points are current, including both tournaments from this weekend (NJDDT and ADA Nationals). I believe only the Mardi Gras and UNI novice points are outstanding -- and those will be added soon. (2) Amendments. There are several amendments for consideration. You can find the full text online as well as a proxy form. Remember, proxy forms are due prior to the start of the business meeting on Monday, March 23. You can send your proxies to me or to any other person who will attend the meeting. (3) Membership. You must pay membership dues to enter the tournament, receive awards, and vote on next year's topic. You can review a list of current members online. It isn't too late to join. You can pay online or at registration. If you have other question or concerns, please let me know. Jeff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090317/5a50a42f/attachment.htm From jddtfl at yahoo.com Wed Mar 18 02:02:04 2009 From: jddtfl at yahoo.com (David Trigaux) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [eDebate] Novice at CEDA Nats -- anybody have any teams? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <13100.62273.qm@web51309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> USF St. Pete is a novice hybrided with Miami, if that expands the novice pool at all... --- On Tue, 3/17/09, omar guevara wrote: From: omar guevara Subject: Re: [eDebate] Novice at CEDA Nats -- anybody have any teams? To: kristopherwillis at hotmail.com, bk2nocal at gmail.com, kenrjohnson at msn.com Cc: edebate at ndtceda.com Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 10:22 PM #yiv1810353549 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1810353549 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} I could have come up with some if I knew in advance it was going down. ? OG Omar G Guevara II Director of Forensics Department of Communication College of Arts & Humanities Weber State University Ogden, Utah ? 801.626.6220 (Office) 801.668.6910 (Cell) ? Oguevara at hotmail.com Oguevara at weber.edu ? PLEASE VISIT: WWW.WEBERDEBATE.COM ? ? ? From: kristopherwillis at hotmail.com To: bk2nocal at gmail.com; kenrjohnson at msn.com Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:07:43 -0400 CC: edebate at ndtceda.com Subject: Re: [eDebate] Novice at CEDA Nats -- anybody have any teams? #yiv1810353549 .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} #yiv1810353549 .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} We have one too. Kris ? Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:21:35 -0700 From: bk2nocal at gmail.com To: kenrjohnson at msn.com CC: edebate at ndtceda.com Subject: Re: [eDebate] Novice at CEDA Nats -- anybody have any teams? We will have one... Sue Sue Peterson, Director of Speech and Debate at CSU Chico sepeterson at csuchico.edu 530-898-4771 "Girl Effect, n. The powerful social and economic change brought about when girls have the opportunity to participate in their society." ? ?http://www.girleffect.org/#/home/ ?In teaching you cannot see the fruit of a day?s work. It is invisible and remains so, maybe for twenty years.? ? Jacques Barzun 2009/3/17 Ken Johnson We will have two teams of novices at CEDA Nats. Anybody else bringing people?? Ken Rochester. _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. See how. Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it out. _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090318/c45577fe/attachment.htm From ceren at usc.edu Wed Mar 18 03:22:28 2009 From: ceren at usc.edu (Omri Ceren) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:22:28 -0700 Subject: [eDebate] "Fairness - white ppl guilty until proven innocent"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49C0AF44.3060900@usc.edu> In fairness, "Jewish lobbyists guilty until proven innocent" is considered the height of sophisticated leftist conventional wisdom. And I think most of those are white. So it's not totally out of bounds. Omri. On 3/17/2009 1:15 PM, bandana organizer wrote: > Apparently (non-list emails inform me) this is not an error. I assumed it was a misquote, since I can't imagine a context in which the sentence in this subject line could be applied to any other ethnic or religious group without a total vocal rejection by this community. > > Can you imagine any of these being said in a round? > > "Fairness - Irish ppl guilty until proven innocent" > "Fairness - bisexual ppl guilty until proven innocent" > "Fairness - Francophone ppl guilty until proven innocent" > "Fairness - fat ppl guilty until proven innocent" > "Fairness - brown ppl guilty until proven innocent" > "Fairness - Catholic ppl guilty until proven innocent" > "Fairness - vegan ppl guilty until proven innocent" > > Here, again, is the context available on the wiki: > > http://opencaselist.wikispaces.com/page/diff/Pre+Wake+08+Towson+JM+Adam+Jackson+%26+Deverick+Murray+Neg/46612713 > > Maybe it's some sort of joke ("White people drive like this, but black people drive like this!"). > > Also, maybe my imagination isn't very good, but I can't imagine a context in which this sort of claim isn't false, hurtful, demeaning, and reductionist. > > -----Original Message----- > From: bandana organizer > Sent: 3/16/2009 6:25:23 AM > To: Adam Jackson , edebate at www.ndtceda.com > Subject: [eDebate] "Fairness - white ppl guilty until proven innocent"? > > > From > > http://opencaselist.wikispaces.com/page/diff/Pre+Wake+08+Towson+JM+Adam+Jackson+%26+Deverick+Murray+Neg/46612713 > > That's a transcription error, right? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Jackson > Sent: 3/16/2009 2:15:41 AM > To: edebate at www.ndtceda.com > Subject: [eDebate] Towson Spotlight... > > > Just thought that I would point ya'll to a recent article written about > Towson that everyone can be excited about: > http://media.www.thetowerlight.com/media/storage/paper957/news/2009/03/12/News/Changing.The.Face.Of.Debate-3669560.shtml > > Enjoy folks. > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > -- -------------- PhD Candidate, USC Annenberg School for Communication Email: ceren at usc.edu Mobile: 412-512-7256 -------------- From tehactionman at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 07:16:28 2009 From: tehactionman at gmail.com (J Freeman) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:16:28 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] "Fairness - white ppl guilty until proven innocent"? In-Reply-To: <49C0AF44.3060900@usc.edu> References: <49C0AF44.3060900@usc.edu> Message-ID: <397b36de0903180516q680bc53eg7a4a4dbd31ec68ea@mail.gmail.com> "guilty of being white" by minor threat comes to mind when I see stuff like this On 3/18/09, Omri Ceren wrote: > In fairness, "Jewish lobbyists guilty until proven innocent" is > considered the height of sophisticated leftist conventional wisdom. And > I think most of those are white. So it's not totally out of bounds. > > Omri. > > On 3/17/2009 1:15 PM, bandana organizer wrote: >> Apparently (non-list emails inform me) this is not an error. I assumed it >> was a misquote, since I can't imagine a context in which the sentence in >> this subject line could be applied to any other ethnic or religious group >> without a total vocal rejection by this community. >> >> Can you imagine any of these being said in a round? >> >> "Fairness - Irish ppl guilty until proven innocent" >> "Fairness - bisexual ppl guilty until proven innocent" >> "Fairness - Francophone ppl guilty until proven innocent" >> "Fairness - fat ppl guilty until proven innocent" >> "Fairness - brown ppl guilty until proven innocent" >> "Fairness - Catholic ppl guilty until proven innocent" >> "Fairness - vegan ppl guilty until proven innocent" >> >> Here, again, is the context available on the wiki: >> >> http://opencaselist.wikispaces.com/page/diff/Pre+Wake+08+Towson+JM+Adam+Jackson+%26+Deverick+Murray+Neg/46612713 >> >> Maybe it's some sort of joke ("White people drive like this, but black >> people drive like this!"). >> >> Also, maybe my imagination isn't very good, but I can't imagine a context >> in which this sort of claim isn't false, hurtful, demeaning, and >> reductionist. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bandana organizer >> Sent: 3/16/2009 6:25:23 AM >> To: Adam Jackson , edebate at www.ndtceda.com >> >> Subject: [eDebate] "Fairness - white ppl guilty until proven innocent"? >> >> >> From >> >> http://opencaselist.wikispaces.com/page/diff/Pre+Wake+08+Towson+JM+Adam+Jackson+%26+Deverick+Murray+Neg/46612713 >> >> That's a transcription error, right? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Adam Jackson >> Sent: 3/16/2009 2:15:41 AM >> To: edebate at www.ndtceda.com >> Subject: [eDebate] Towson Spotlight... >> >> >> Just thought that I would point ya'll to a recent article written about >> Towson that everyone can be excited about: >> http://media.www.thetowerlight.com/media/storage/paper957/news/2009/03/12/News/Changing.The.Face.Of.Debate-3669560.shtml >> >> Enjoy folks. >> _______________________________________________ >> eDebate mailing list >> eDebate at www.ndtceda.com >> http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate >> _______________________________________________ >> eDebate mailing list >> eDebate at www.ndtceda.com >> http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate >> > > -- > > -------------- > PhD Candidate, USC Annenberg School for Communication > Email: ceren at usc.edu > Mobile: 412-512-7256 > -------------- > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > From jasonlrussell1 at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 07:48:39 2009 From: jasonlrussell1 at gmail.com (Jason Russell) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:48:39 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] "Fairness - white ppl guilty until proven innocent"? Message-ID: Maybe you didn't read the rest of this casebook entry, but I'm doubting that this argument is meant to be taken at face value. The "Luke Hill Cred" Da sorta gives it away. J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090318/d939ded8/attachment.htm From kkuswa at richmond.edu Wed Mar 18 08:58:48 2009 From: kkuswa at richmond.edu (Kuswa, Kevin) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:58:48 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] little debate coach job Message-ID: <143D98DF496421488EB9BC87D999BD3E942D49B523@UREXCHANGESCC.richmond.edu> hi all, Richmond debate is informally looking for an assistant coach (part-time unless you can really stretch your means) to join our team and work with congdon and I. Salary is based on the successful applicant's expertise, location (we would prefer richmond, but....), and ability to do research and attend tournaments. Contact me over email or at the ndt if interested. thanks, kevin kuswa richmond debate From lifer-hat at hotmail.com Wed Mar 18 11:48:14 2009 From: lifer-hat at hotmail.com (bandana organizer ) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:48:14 +0000 Subject: [eDebate] "Fairness - white ppl guilty until proven innocent"? Message-ID: I just assumed it was serious since the "NOMO CP" is serious. Well, I assume the "NOMO CP" is serious. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Russell Sent: 3/18/2009 12:48:39 PM To: edebate at ndtceda.com Subject: [eDebate] "Fairness - white ppl guilty until proven innocent"? Maybe you didn't read the rest of this casebook entry, but I'm doubting that this argument is meant to be taken at face value. The "Luke Hill Cred" Da sorta gives it away. J From scottelliott at grandecom.net Wed Mar 18 11:52:02 2009 From: scottelliott at grandecom.net (scottelliott at grandecom.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:52:02 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Releasing two rooms at the Red Lion Message-ID: <1237395122.49c126b2c480b@webmail.grandecom.net> I am about to cancel two roomsat the Red Lion Inn. If anyone needs them, you may want to call within the hour. From jbhdb8 at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 12:25:41 2009 From: jbhdb8 at gmail.com (Josh) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:25:41 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] "Fairness - white ppl guilty until proven innocent"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hideo Nomo, great stuff, good CP J On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:48 PM, bandana organizer wrote: > I just assumed it was serious since the "NOMO CP" is serious. > > Well, I assume the "NOMO CP" is serious. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Russell > Sent: 3/18/2009 12:48:39 PM > To: edebate at ndtceda.com > Subject: [eDebate] "Fairness - white ppl guilty until proven innocent"? > > > Maybe you didn't read the rest of this casebook entry, but I'm doubting > that > this argument is meant to be taken at face value. The "Luke Hill Cred" Da > sorta gives it away. > J > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090318/077dd7e1/attachment.htm From heyvince at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 13:00:50 2009 From: heyvince at gmail.com (Vince Alvarez) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:00:50 -0700 Subject: [eDebate] Novice at CEDA Nats -- anybody have any teams? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: SF State will have a novice team at CEDA as well. Vince Alvarez On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Ken Johnson wrote: > We will have two teams of novices at CEDA Nats. Anybody else > bringing people? > > Ken > Rochester. > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate From malgorthewarrior at hotmail.com Wed Mar 18 13:08:24 2009 From: malgorthewarrior at hotmail.com (malcolm gordon) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:08:24 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] amendment on number of ceda rounds Message-ID: What is the rationale for opening the door to fewer preliminary rounds? Despite the trend of national tournaments decreasing preliminary rounds, I don't see the purpose in doing so for the ceda championship tournament. I hope people decide to vote and prevent this from happening. CEDA is already a 4 day tournament, and even in a lower attended year such as this there are 146 teams. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090318/6ad451b9/attachment.htm From stables at usc.edu Wed Mar 18 13:55:49 2009 From: stables at usc.edu (Gordon Stables) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:55:49 -0700 Subject: [eDebate] amendment on number of ceda rounds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39c1ac890903181155y2cee0dcepef86d6570bea1a39@mail.gmail.com> Malcom (and all), I drafted this amendment because even though the CEDA constitution provides a lot of discretion to the president in the organization of the tournament, the number of prelim and elim rounds are set as a specific mandate. This may have been more appropriate at a different time, but in an era when a large number of tournaments are experimenting with fewer prelims it seems like a good idea to provide CEDA with the same ability to have a shorter tournament. To be clear, the president would, as always, have to gain support from the EC and community, so I don't foresee the tournament being changed without substantial support from the membership. I can also see this flexibility influencing hosting options. A prospective host might, for example, detail how certain facilities might be uniquely available with a specific schedule. Finding campus hosts on a Friday mid-day have always been a challenge. You also correct identify the challenges of a four day tournament. As all programs are planning for difficult economic times, it seems prudent to provide our organization with the tools to (potentially) run a shorter tournament. At present CEDA could not reduce the length of the national tournament, even if members asked for the tournament to be shorter (and therefore less expensive). This would take a mid-season amendment and likely be impossible to adopt in time for the release of the national invitation. This is also an option that would be provided by the amendment. I view the function of the CEDA constitution be best reserved for those concrete items that should be kept clear and (for the most part) permanent. I don't believe that the exact number of rounds at the national tournament is such an item. This amendment still provides for a range of options that are conssitent with community practices. The amendment, for example, still calls for a minimum of 6 debates (the minimum norm of our tournaments) and allows flexibility beyond that number. To be clear, this amendment doesn't require a reduced tournament, but it makes this a decision that the organization could take. Many tournaments are reducing their number of rounds to try to balance the competitive practices of longer debates with the logistical challenges of running a quality tournament. I wrote this amendment to provide CEDA with the same latitude that other tournaments possess. This amendment, like all of the amendments, will be considered and voting on at the business meeting at ISU,. Those items that pass will go to a full community mail ballot. If you cannot attend, but would like to vote for the business meeting, please fill out a proxy form located at www.cedadebate.org Thanks. Gordon Gordon Stables, Ph.D. Director of Debate & Forensics Annenberg School for Communication University of Southern California Office: 213 740 2759 Fax: 213 740 3913 www.usctrojandebate.com 2009/3/18 malcolm gordon : > What is the rationale for opening the door to fewer preliminary rounds? > > > > Despite the trend of national tournaments decreasing preliminary rounds, I > don?t see the purpose in doing so for the ceda championship tournament. ?I > hope people decide to vote and prevent this from happening. ?CEDA is already > a 4 day tournament, and even in a lower attended year such as this there are > 146 teams. > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > From sarahtp73 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 18 15:00:43 2009 From: sarahtp73 at yahoo.com (Sarah Partlow) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [eDebate] Missing Mac addresses Message-ID: <865128.34332.qm@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We are missing MAC addresses from the following schools. 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090318/5f22120a/attachment.htm From rickydeck at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 22:57:16 2009 From: rickydeck at gmail.com (Ricky Deck) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:57:16 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] CEDA Student Representative for the 2009 Topic Committee Message-ID: <6ae7c1540903182057r26d1e1c6m2b2c6646b4b2845a@mail.gmail.com> This Message is Directed to Everyone that will be at the Elections for the Student Representative to the Topic Committee. My name is Ricky Deck and I currently debate for James Madison University. I'm writing here on E-Debate because unfortunately I will not make the actual Elections Process in Idaho. Although I won't be there, I definitely would like to let everyone know that I would like to run to be the Student Representative to the Topic Committee. I feel that I'd be a good Representative for a few reasons. First, My experience in Debate-I've debated in High School for four years reaching TOC Bid rounds as well as winning State Championship. I've also Gone to a few Camps During my High School years including SDI and DDI. Although I did fairly well in high school, I came from a small school background, so I know how difficult it can be debating against programs that are quite big in comparison. This is my first year debating in college and I definitely will be debating the next few years. Second, My Understanding of Small Programs and Big Programs-Like I said above, I debated for a small program in high school, but I also tried creating a program in college. Unfortunately, my situation didn't work out to well because of financial situations so I had to transfer out, but with that said I know about small programs and I know how it sometimes can be rough to be that small program. With that insight, I promise to use that to try and create a topic where the playing ground is beneficial to the Smaller Programs. Third, I will Provide both K and Policy Ground-As a debater in high school I ran both policy and kritikal arguments. I've gone as far as running arguments like nuclear malthus and wipeout. This year I ran kritikal arguments just as much as policy arguments and I feel that trying to have a fair division of ground for both the kritikally oriented teams and policy oriented teams is necessary. Fourth, Support for a Smaller Topic with Good Generic Neg Ground-I feel that a Smaller topic with Good Generic Negative Ground is the best topic. I feel that this would benefit Small Programs and it would provide a good way to generate even K and Policy Ground. I've heard complaints about topics like the Middle East Topic last year, which many said it seemed to big. It seems obvious to also point out this years topic may have had some unnecessary parts included. For example, the Soy portion of the topic was hardly debated this year. I've been told the China topic had really good generic neg ground (Pressure Bad Links, Econ pressure, Orientalism, Pan K, Rights K's) I love this Activity we call Debate, and if I were Elected the Student Representative to the Topic Committee I can assure everyone that I will do the best I can to make next years topic one that we can look back and say "Damn, I loved that topic" Sincerely, Ricky Deck James Madison Debate -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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POLICY Robin Gray & Sasha Sabherwal, Fullerton Union (CA) Nick Donlan & Jan Flatley Feldman, Loyola (CA) Ish Arora & Sanjana Parkih, Saint Francis (CA) Laurel Fish & Joe LeDuc, Saint Georges (WA) CHURCHILL, TX Karen King, director of the Churchill invitational, has certified the 2009 qualifiers. Churchill qualifies in LD at the finals level, and the top eight in Congress. LINCOLN DOUGLAS Devin Race, Westlake, TX . Paul Tyger, Strake Jesuit, TX CONGRESS Patrick Germain, Anderson, TX Alex Birnel, Sandra Day O'Connor, TX Daniel Kane, Anderson, TX Keith Porter, Earl Warren, TX Jennifer Roberts, Alief Taylor, TX Chris Hamblin, McNeil, TX Lauren White, Flower Mound, TX Lily Rodriguez, Pasadena, TX MYERS PARK (In a few cases, the states listed may be wrong. Please ignore. Andrew West, director of the Laird Lewis Invitational at Myers Park, has certified the 2009 TOC quals. Myers Park qualifies in Public Forum at quarters and the top 6 in Congress. PUBLIC FORUM Matthew Stolz and Shirin Kale, Ardrey Kell, NC Robert Kindman and Josh Zoffer, Durham Academy, NC Max Elder and Luke Elder, Manchester Essex, MA Austin Criden and Harrison Grussmark, Ransom Everglades, FL Raghav Aggarwal and Mohit Bansal, The Harker School, CA Rahman Haq and Josh Elkin, Cold Spring Harbor, FL Christopher Oman and Taylor Carns, Des Moines Roosevelt, IO Jesse Kessel and Ali McGrath, Asheville, NC CONGRESS Brady Nails, Hopewell, NC Alex Boudreau, Asheville, NC Ryan Karrer, Southside, NC Alex McCoy, North Mecklenburg, NC Wilson Parker, Asheville, NC Melissa Hannaman, North Mecklenburg, NC JW Patterson, TOC Founder From shahall at comcast.net Thu Mar 19 08:32:31 2009 From: shahall at comcast.net (Sherry Hall) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:32:31 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Fw: [CEDA-L] 2009 NDT: Computers Access Message-ID: <0da501c9a897$27c3c800$24a86041@PowerspecPc> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:07 AM Subject: [CEDA-L] 2009 NDT: Computers Access > Hey y'all, Thi sis just a reminder that no one can set up wireless > routers, switches or hubs in the hotels or on campus. This would violate > the terms of our contract. So please make sure that there items are not > used. > > Thank you, > > Joel & the Horns > _______________________________________________ > CEDA-L mailing list > CEDA-L at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/ceda-l From odekirk.scott at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 09:16:31 2009 From: odekirk.scott at gmail.com (scott odekirk) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:16:31 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] ISU alum needs help at the SLC airport! Message-ID: <724663690903190716n47fbb098t3d595086ffef4c8c@mail.gmail.com> Yessica Jeats is lost again and missed her flight. Anybody getting in a 11pm or later on thursday night that could give her a ride? (name brilliantly scrambled for high level security purposes) Scott Idaho State -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I arrive in Austin 6:30 pm on Wed. the 25th (American) thanks W. James Taylor ("JT") Asst. Debate Coach Emporia State University ***Nothing in this email should be taken to represent Emporia State Debate or Emporia State University. The contents are the sole opinion of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090319/a7d5a4f9/attachment.htm From jwpatt00 at email.uky.edu Thu Mar 19 10:51:13 2009 From: jwpatt00 at email.uky.edu (Patterson, J W) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:51:13 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] TOC QUALS: HARVARD Message-ID: NOTE: NEW HOTEL FOR THE 2009 TOC HOLIDAY INN NORTH 1950 Newtown Pike PHONE: 859--233--0512 Room Rate: $95+ tax /per night (up to 4 in a room) HARVARD Sherry Hall and Dallas Perkins through their tab room directors have certified the 2009 TOC quals. Harvard is an octafinals qualifier in Policy, Public Forum and Lincoln Douglas, and a semi's in Congress. POLICY Katryna Cadle & Chris Power, Bishop Guertin, NH Christian Steckler & Mitch Hagney, Bishop Guertin, NH Dylan Gorman & David Seidman, Bronx Science, NY Andrew Markoff & Regan Bozman, Bronx Science Richie Choy & Adi Sudarshan, Chattahoochee, GA Andrew Murray & Alex Nasr, Colleyville Heritage, TX Tej Ben Change & Harsh Jhaveri, Edgemont, NY Tyler Boykin & Chris Mair, Ft. Lauderdale, FL Melving Washignton & Vanova Robles-Navas, Ft. Lauderdale, FL Rachel Logan & Arjun Vellayappan, Lexington, MA Joe Balistrerri & Michael Hoffman, Lexington, MA WIlliam Rains & Nick Honegger, Tampa Prep, FL Rajesh Jegadeesh & Anshu Sathian, Westminster, GA Daniel Taylor & Ellis Allen, Westminster, GA Brittany Nehman & Matthew Pesce, Woodward PUBLIC FORUM Rahman Haq & Josh Elkin, Cold Spring Harbor, NY Josh Zoffer & Robert Kidman, Durham Academy, NC Erik Carlson & Matt Manarski, E. L Meyers, PA Matt Gold & Czar Bernstein, Ft. Lauderdale, FL Cara Eckholm & Ted Mateoc, Hunter College, NY Meredith Potter & Caleb Frye, Pinecrest, NC Charles Barr & Jose Bengochea, Randsom Everglades, FL Chris Khan & John O?Brien, Regis, NY Danielle Taylor & Parsa Salehi, Ridge, NJ Nate Richardson & Kate Towell, Shrewsbury, MA AJ Perez & Russell Morgan, Stoneman Douglas, FL Brian Zakarin & Mickael Silangil, Taravella, FL Michael McHenry & Olivia Barket, Trinity Prep, FL Kira Purdon & Lee Lawrence, Trinity Prep, FL Alex Edelman & Aaron Schiffrin, Walt Whitman, MD Bruno Velloso & Richard Scordato, Walt Whitman, MD Charles Harris & Noah Gray, Woodstock, VT LINCOLN DOUGLAS Sasha Arijanto - Altamont (AL) Ryan Bennett - Southlake Carroll (TX) Carter Bielen - Mountain Brook (AL) Kate Cygan - Albuquerque Academy (NM) Matt Dunay - Bronx Science (NY) Perry Green - Walt Whitman (MD) Sean Janda - La Salle College (PA) Christian Keil - Lakeville South (MN) Nikita Lalwani - Scarsdale (NY) Ben Lewis - Walt Whitman (MD) Tess McNulty - Millburn (NJ) Jake Nebel - Trinity Prep (FL) Ellen Noble - Walt Whitman (MD) Saboor Sheerazi - Bronx Science (NY) Georgia Stasinopoulos - Stuyvesant (NY) Andrew Waks - Westlake (TX) CONGRESS (States not supplied) Kevin Bowie, Western Eliza Brown, Highland Park Jessica Brunelle, Trinity Prep Paul Cammarata,Chaminade Bryan Campanello Southlake Carroll Emily Cardin Sequoyah Amitav Chakraborty Stuyvesant Neal Chandra Suncoast Gabe Chavez Hendrickson Vicky Cheng Myers Park Emma Collins Loyola Robert Colonel Winter Springs Kyle Conway Notre Dame Tyler Corbin Niceville Danneile Davis Suncoast Jake Dearmon Ft. Walton Beach Fred DeRitis St. Joseph's Michael DeRosa American Heritage--Plantation Amanda DeStefano Wellington Jorge Diaz Legacy Ryan Dolin Riverdale Harlan Downs-Tepper Stuyvesant Ray Escobar St. Thomas Aquinas Jon Fried Pennsbury Joseph Giacona Winter Springs Jacob Gilson Nova Matt Gold Adlai E. Stevenson Jacob Goldstein Atlantic Dan Gordon Loyola Charles Gress St. Joseph's Brad Gross Taravella Tanvika Gupta Myers Park Alexandra Gutowski Mount Saint Dominic Alex Heim Northland Christian Brandon Hersey Hattiesburg Jordan Heyman Highland Park Greg Hietala Desert Vista Robert Hill Nova Hannah Hindel Myers Park Billy Hopkins Notre Dame Sam Hughes East Chapel Hill Katherine James Northland Christian Zul Kapadia Loyola Rafe Kettler Myers Park Stefan Leon Nova Bo Lint Suncoast Joe Mahoney Notre Dame Josh McCall Acton-Boxborough Eric Moussa Belen Jesuit Amar Mukunda Walt Whitman Brady Nails Hopewell Mike Neubauer Walt Whitman Alex Pacheco Royal Palm Beach Gabriel Paez Cypress Bay Kevin Paffrath Western Amir Parikh Myers Park Wilson Parker Asheville Shivam Patel Ridge Rafael Perez American Heritage--Plantation Joseph Perretta Christopher Columbus Dan Pocus Ridge Sarah Prostko John Hersey Joseph Puma Stuyvesant Andres Ramirez Suncoast Dhruv Ranadive Trinity Prep Evan Ribot Adlai E. Stevenson Gabrielle Richards EL Meyers Brennan Robbins Milton Frances Rodriguez St. Thomas Aquinas Ari Ruffer Highland Park Matthew Sachaj Notre Dame Paras Saxena Lake Highland Vincent Sayseng Iona Bryan Schatz Highland Park Simon Scholl Myers Park Sam Schrarer Ridge Jeff Scott Monsignor Farrell Sam Scott Plano Josh Seidenberg Pinecrest Taz Sella Southlake Carroll Priyang Shah Myers Park Jessica Sheehan Walt Whitman Matt Shuster Pinecrest Chip Sinton Lake Highland Shaina Sklar Unionville Ross Slaughter Walt Whitman Alex Smyk Ridge Michael Stechschulte Wellington Dan Sullivan Loyola Niki Thadani Lake Highland Anna Tsiotsias Nova Drew Vollmer Walt Whitman Max Wexler Nova Matt Williams Perry J.C. Wilt La Salle Claire Yao Ridge Rachel Zolno Adlai E. Stevenson JW Patterson, TOC Founder -- Stefan Bauschard President & Co-Founder, PlanetDebate.com Debate From mharris02 at drury.edu Thu Mar 19 11:07:59 2009 From: mharris02 at drury.edu (Martin Harris) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:07:59 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] mid-April judging needed in Springfield Message-ID: <451372279EE24E4992ED27B99AC5577304A884FF@EXVS1.drury.edu> Missouri State and Drury are co-hosting the National Forensics Association tournament. While this is an IE tournament, they do have one person policy using a modified LD format. Rounds typically take no more than an hour and are scattered around other IE rounds. The topic this year should be familiar to some, it is R: the USFG should substantially increase its constructive engagement with Cuba. The main difference between their approach and the "rogues/sanctions" topic is without the lift sanctions requirement, there are a lot fewer embargo affs. Pay is not substantial, the schedule is pretty light though, and Drury is willing to negotiate (sharing requirements for sure) on housing terms if needed. Plus, all the cool MoState kids (some recent graduates) will be there to hang out with. Below is the boiler plate judge recruitment letter. Couple notes of importance, 1) the "full" commitment would include IE rounds. For coaches, they usually allow you to "prefer" certain events (extempt and impromptu for instance). Don't know what they allow for hires, but I imagine a per rnd person could create as many constraints as needed. 2) Ignore the required training session part. That is for "lays". 3) LD allows NO decision disclosure. They are serious about this, so please don't do it. LD is still an IE event to them. Hence they treat many conventions the same as the rest of the IEs. 4) There are rules. They aren't that constraining in my mind, but I didn't think ADA rules were all that bad either. A lot of these people (MoSo, CMSU, West Ky, Colorado College, USAFA...), are ex team CEDA coaches/programs that wanted an alternative. They left the NDT/CEDA playground, I think people should respect theirs. I am willing to answer questions, but if you are interested you should contact Dr. Gilstrap at the email below. I am just playing middle man on this one. I will probably resend after the NDT since I know most people are focused on both nationals left right now. Martin Harris Systems Engineer - Desktop Architecture Drury University - Technology Services 900 N Benton Ave Springfield, Missouri 65802 office: 417-873-7848 fax: 417-873-7835 Hello! We are pleased to announce that MSU & Drury University will be hosting the 2009 National Forensics Association's National (Intercollegiate) Speech & Debate Tournament. The Competition spans April 16th-19th on MSU's campus and ends on Drury's campus on the 20th. As such, we are hiring critics for speaking and interpretive and debate events. Critics MUST have a Bachelor's & volunteer for at least 1 whole competition day. Here is our compensation break down: *Full time judges will judge a total of 13-14 rounds and receive $150. (This commitment obligates you for all rounds Th-Sun.) OR *Part-time judges receive $10 for each round they judge. (4-8 rounds per day) Notes: 1. A "round" is the timeframe in which you watch 5-7 performances and rate/rank them in comparison to one another.and fill out a ballot with helpful comments. Rounds usually last 1.5 hours though many are shorter. 2. You will only need pens and a timing device (and training) to judge! 3. The NFA organization pays you after judging is completed. We will be hosting at least 3 training sessions the 2 weeks leading up to the event. We will email sign up sheets for these training sessions very soon. We do ask that all judges attend at least 1 training session. Qualifications? Hold a BA/BS and attend at least 1 training session. If you would like to sign up to judge in the competition, please fill in the information below and send it back to Dr. Curt Gilstrap at cgilstrap at hotmail.com NAME: EMAIL: CELL: Day(s) you'd like to judge: Th, Fri, Sat, Sun You will receive a confirmation email! (Professor Gilstrap is the advisor for Drury Debate and the lead host for the national tournament this year.) Thanks a bunch! We hope you'll join us for the 2009 NFA tournament! Curt Gilstrap, Ph.D. Director, Communication Graduate Program Assistant Professor of Communication Director/Advisor, Drury Debate Drury University -------------------- To reply to this message, follow the link below: http://www.facebook.com/n/?inbox/readmessage.php&t=1080097853466&mid=2a1501G37fb4a8G3dc99dG0 ___ Want to control which emails you receive from Facebook? Go to: http://www.facebook.com/editaccount.php?notifications&md=bXNnO2Zyb209NTAzMTI3ODk0O3Q9MTA4MDA5Nzg1MzQ2Njt0bz01ODcwMDk2OA==&mid=2a1501G37fb4a8G3dc99dG0 From shahall at comcast.net Thu Mar 19 11:10:20 2009 From: shahall at comcast.net (Sherry Hall) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:10:20 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Wireless Access at the NDT Message-ID: <0dc101c9a8ad$33d27950$24a86041@PowerspecPc> Hi Everyone-- I want to reiterate what Joel said in the message earlier today. You cannot use wireless routers, hubs or switches for your computers inside the hotel or on the UT campus -- this includes using them in your room. The hotel has sophisticated ways of determining whether or not someone uses one of these devices. We have a contract with stiff penalties if the Internet doesn't work, but the entire guarantee and their liability will be voided if ANYONE uses one of these devices. Please do not even bring them with you. Sherry Hall -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090319/07a152b2/attachment.htm From repkowil at msu.edu Thu Mar 19 15:17:37 2009 From: repkowil at msu.edu (repkowil at msu.edu) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:17:37 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Law of the Sea -- caution encouraged Message-ID: <20090319161737.160754bmkq7cx6qp@mail.msu.edu> I cannot describe how little time I have to get trapped into a meta-discussion about this (or how much I will utterly...and I mean ruthlessly and categorically...? ignore the conversation after this post), but the greatest LOST/politics card ever was written today. While it's a good card, we also thought it relevant to point-out *before* CEDA-NDT starts that it is from a student newspaper and that it appears as though the card is written by a member of that school's college debate team. To be clear, no accusations (at all) at the BC folks -- people can and should write about whatever they'd like in the school newspaper. This post is not defending censorship or questioning anyone's character. It's more that sometimes it's pragmatic (and good) to have "Early Warning systems" and that it may be worth mentioning (before-the-tourneys) that teams have found this card and opted against reading it. Best, Greta-Will-MSU -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090319/6990bf53/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Greta Stahl" Subject: LOST card Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:55:36 -0400 Size: 10875 Url: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090319/6990bf53/attachment.eml From drmosbornesq at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 15:21:42 2009 From: drmosbornesq at gmail.com (bandana martin) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:21:42 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Law of the Sea -- caution encouraged In-Reply-To: <20090319161737.160754bmkq7cx6qp@mail.msu.edu> References: <20090319161737.160754bmkq7cx6qp@mail.msu.edu> Message-ID: <39c09a80903191321l20d54f5l1a2fc0427c3e69af@mail.gmail.com> where's the word "extinction" ? 2009/3/19 > I cannot describe how little time I have to get trapped into a > meta-discussion about this (or how much I will utterly...and I mean > ruthlessly and categorically... ignore the conversation after this post), > but the greatest LOST/politics card ever was written today. > > While it's a good card, we also thought it relevant to point-out *before* > CEDA-NDT starts that it is from a student newspaper and that it appears as > though the card is written by a member of that school's college debate team. > > > To be clear, no accusations (at all) at the BC folks -- people can and > should write about whatever they'd like in the school newspaper. This post > is not defending censorship or questioning anyone's character. > > It's more that sometimes it's pragmatic (and good) to have "Early Warning > systems" and that it may be worth mentioning (before-the-tourneys) that > teams have found this card and opted against reading it. > > Best, > > Greta-Will-MSU > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Greta Stahl" > To: > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:55:36 -0400 > Subject: LOST card > > Brendan Bendict, ?LOST Keeps America Afloat,? BCHeights.com (Independent > Student Newspaper of Boston College), 3/19/2009 > http://media.www.bcheights.com/media/storage/paper144/news/2009/03/19/Marketplace/Lost-Keeps.America.Afloat-3675984.shtml > > > > President *Obama has promised a renewal of relationships between the > United States and other nations*, from sending key envoys to the Middle > East to having Secretary of State Clinton push a reset button with Russia. > Massachusetts' own John *Kerry is working with Obama, as chair of the > Senate foreign relations committee, to press the Senate to ratify the United > Nations conventions on the Law of the Sea* Treaty (LOST). The Senate has > not yet ratified the treaty but doing so would boost America's economic, > military, and environmental prowess. *Even after fierce and divisive > opposition from Republicans, Obama has been able to pass key pieces of his > agenda through Congress, like the stimulus. His political capital with > Congress is so high that Republicans even seem open to another round of > stimulus spending*, *so Obama needs to capitalize on it to get LOST > ratified.* Unlike regular Senate bills, which require a simple majority to > pass, treaties required 67 votes, so Republican support is crucial. > > > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090319/08d781f3/attachment.htm From teasley3 at jccc.edu Thu Mar 19 15:22:21 2009 From: teasley3 at jccc.edu (Terri Easley) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:22:21 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] JCCC Assistant Coach Posting Message-ID: <8F1214AF088DD246A7A0B489E89441321EFF7FC7E3@ac-ex07mb1.employee.directory.jccc> Just a reminder that this position will start review on March 30. This is a hard deadline and the application process will close at that time. I would highly suggest that you get your applications in before all the national tournaments get underway to ensure it goes through all the processes for review deadline. You must complete your application online and then it takes a day or 2 for HR to assess whether you meet the requirements of the posting before it shows up on our end. Also, everything must be completed on the online application - this means your letters of rec and unofficial transcript both have to be online (there is a place to attach them in the online process). If you send them to me, that is wrong. If you send them to HR it takes them forever to get them online and probably wont' happen before the review deadline. So please post everything online. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks! Terri Easley Director of Debate Johnson County Community College Assistant Debate Coach/Assistant Professor of Speech Summary of Job Duties: Teach classroom courses in Debate, Public Speaking, Interpersonal Communication and Personal Communication, as well as serving as an assistant debate coach for the debate team. Coaching responsibilities included assisting the Debate Coach by: traveling to tournaments, judging, managing team research, the development of team strategies, conducting and evaluating practice debates, recruiting, assisting in the hosting of the National Junior Division Debate Tournament and various other responsibilities as assigned by the Debate Coach. Must be willing and able to work with all experience levels ( novice, JV, and open). Will perform other duties expected of full-time faculty. Must be willing to work a flexible schedule, which will include evening and week-end assignments. 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State Chico Zach Eskridge & Sienna Fry 0 Cal. State Chico Amara Larpthavesarp & Carl Reyes 0 City University NY Dima Povazhuk & Cynthia Caballero 0 City University NY Kate Ortiz & Aubrey Semple 0 City University NY Chad Infante & Shumaila Jameel 0 CSU Fullerton Eliza Ramirez & Danny Stambaugh 0 CSU Fullerton Rachel Macwillie & Christen Trammell 0 CSU Fullerton Bryce Bridge & Caitlin Gray 0 CSU Fullerton Jeanette Rodriguez & Joel Salcedo 0 CSU Sacramento Creston Whiting & Mike Petrillo 0 CSU Sacramento Katie Rupp & Gerald Clift 0 Denver Tyler Warner & David Milavetz 0 Fordham University Stephanie Cordero & Ariane Nomikos 0 George Mason Univers Emily Owens & Janna Reynolds 0 Illinois State University Ariel Howard & Alyssa Heintzelman-Ruzek 0 Illinois State University Marlon Harris & Scott Siebert 0 Illinois State University Robert Kosic & Alex Berger 0 Illinois State University Amanda Ahms & Justin Lange 0 Kansas (Univ. of) Patrick Kennedy & Erum Shah 0 Kansas City Kansas C Charlie Clark & Aaron Thomas 0 Kansas City Kansas C Noah Fugate & Corey Lande 0 Kansas City Kansas C Miranda Nichols & Mike Slinkerd 0 Louisiana-Lafayette Abhishek Bajapee & Ezekias Mondesir 0 Miami (Florida) Simone Branch & Jonathan Raof 0 Miami (Florida) Zoheb Nensey & David Trigaux 0 New York Univ. 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Young, Ph.D. Director of Forensics/ Assistant Professor Communication Department Wayne State University 585 Manoogian Hall Detroit, MI 48201 (313) 577-2953 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090319/971abc51/attachment.htm From kearney.debate at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 19:09:16 2009 From: kearney.debate at gmail.com (Mike Kearney) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:09:16 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Law of the Sea -- caution encouraged In-Reply-To: <39c09a80903191321l20d54f5l1a2fc0427c3e69af@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090319161737.160754bmkq7cx6qp@mail.msu.edu> <39c09a80903191321l20d54f5l1a2fc0427c3e69af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9d4609f90903191709u201cca14r62053c72e36b6940@mail.gmail.com> (same article) Republicans seem to be divided on the issue, with some agreeing that it would help the navy, while others believe it would give the UN control over our seas and military actions. But the treaty simply sets up a dispute resolution system, the International Seabed Authority (ISA), that arbitrates when two countries disagree over the rights of ships in their waters. Right now, the U.S. has no voice on the ISA, meaning that if nations wanted to close their waters to American ships, there would hardly be a peaceful recourse. Diplomatic tensions flared last week when naval ships passed through the South China Sea, irking fishermen who proceeded to lower their trousers. As laughable as it seems on its face, it resulted in tough negotiations with China. Thus, the need for LOST is clear: if the U.S. was party to the treaty, the navy would have been able to sail through the South China Sea without causing an international incident. With piracy on the rise and wars still raging in Iraq and Afghanistan, being able to move aircraft carriers and submarines is crucial to maintaining safety on the seas. throw in a little Nikkei Weekly 95, bingo bango, extinction. 2009/3/19 bandana martin > where's the word "extinction" ? > > > 2009/3/19 > >> I cannot describe how little time I have to get trapped into a >> meta-discussion about this (or how much I will utterly...and I mean >> ruthlessly and categorically... ignore the conversation after this post), >> but the greatest LOST/politics card ever was written today. >> >> While it's a good card, we also thought it relevant to point-out *before* >> CEDA-NDT starts that it is from a student newspaper and that it appears as >> though the card is written by a member of that school's college debate team. >> >> >> To be clear, no accusations (at all) at the BC folks -- people can and >> should write about whatever they'd like in the school newspaper. This post >> is not defending censorship or questioning anyone's character. >> >> It's more that sometimes it's pragmatic (and good) to have "Early Warning >> systems" and that it may be worth mentioning (before-the-tourneys) that >> teams have found this card and opted against reading it. >> >> Best, >> >> Greta-Will-MSU >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "Greta Stahl" >> To: >> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:55:36 -0400 >> Subject: LOST card >> >> Brendan Bendict, ?LOST Keeps America Afloat,? BCHeights.com (Independent >> Student Newspaper of Boston College), 3/19/2009 >> http://media.www.bcheights.com/media/storage/paper144/news/2009/03/19/Marketplace/Lost-Keeps.America.Afloat-3675984.shtml >> >> >> >> President *Obama has promised a renewal of relationships between the >> United States and other nations*, from sending key envoys to the Middle >> East to having Secretary of State Clinton push a reset button with Russia. >> Massachusetts' own John *Kerry is working with Obama, as chair of the >> Senate foreign relations committee, to press the Senate to ratify the United >> Nations conventions on the Law of the Sea* Treaty (LOST). The Senate has >> not yet ratified the treaty but doing so would boost America's economic, >> military, and environmental prowess. *Even after fierce and divisive >> opposition from Republicans, Obama has been able to pass key pieces of his >> agenda through Congress, like the stimulus. His political capital with >> Congress is so high that Republicans even seem open to another round of >> stimulus spending*, *so Obama needs to capitalize on it to get LOST >> ratified.* Unlike regular Senate bills, which require a simple majority >> to pass, treaties required 67 votes, so Republican support is crucial. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> eDebate mailing list >> eDebate at www.ndtceda.com >> http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate >> > > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"the first appearance by a sitting president on the tonight show may well be the last." the joke goes back to the campaign trail where hillary challenged him to a bowling match for the nomination. i ask you to switch the metaphor. obama is the most teleprompter reliant president since the introduction of teleprompters. yet, he has the false reputation as an orator. speaking with a teleprompter is akin to speaking with a crutch highlighting the inability to go on your own. the president is a symbol of a society reliant on the government as he is upon the teleprompter. a society of special olympic citizens who "need" the government to make their decisions for them. the teleprompter crutch caused a big problem the other day with the irish prime minister when obama's speech was being re-read by his counterpart. http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Barack-Obama-Thanks-Himself-In-Teleprompt-Blunder-During-Address-With-Irish-PM-On-St-Patricks-Day/Article/200903315243932?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_Article_Teaser_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15243932_Barack_Obama_Thanks_Himself_In_Teleprompt_Blunder_During_Address_With_Irish_PM_On_St_Patricks_Day soetoro keeps trying to laugh it off. sorry, buddy, it's not funny that you suck so bad. one big speech on TV without a teleprompter, that's all i'm asking for. who cares about your bowling? you suck @ speaking without a teleprompter, robot. so far, obama is obominable at his job. worse than bush because rove ran the show. definitely, faring worse than clinton. a rookie worried about limbaugh. i'm glad they nailed geithner telling dodd to remove the addendum that would've cancelled the AIG bonuses. the resignation'll be easy. nobody else has been hired yet to work in the treasury department. another fiasco. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090319/780f17c9/attachment.htm From BOpsata at dvc.edu Thu Mar 19 23:30:34 2009 From: BOpsata at dvc.edu (Opsata, Becky) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:30:34 -0700 Subject: [eDebate] NDT scouting information Message-ID: <459F0B7C85731C449AF880D6FEABE743085DC111@diamond.4cd.net> I am pleased to be coordinating the scouting operation again this year at the NDT. Abbey Schirmer from MSU will be my co-director this year. I have 2 important scouting requests for everyone going to the NDT. 1) Please update your information on the wiki before you get to Austin. If you read new stuff recently, please be sure it has made it to the wiki. Those of you at CEDA this weekend, please send information to the wiki as well about what happens there. 2) If you are sending scouts: please email me with the names and email addresses for your scouts. We will have a short orientation meeting for all scouts immediately after the opening ceremonies. Feel free to contact me with any questions you have about the scouting! Thanks, Dr. Becky Opsata Director of Forensics Diablo Valley College -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090319/d3f0a458/attachment.htm From Gary.N.Larson at wheaton.edu Fri Mar 20 03:01:25 2009 From: Gary.N.Larson at wheaton.edu (Gary Larson) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:01:25 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Pref Update Message-ID: <49C30705.3F5C.0033.0@wheaton.edu> Need all prefs Bard College Conor Beath & Kaitlyn Entel 0 Binghamton Amanda Jaret & Christine Timmons 0 Cal. State Chico Zach Eskridge & Sienna Fry 0 CSU Sacramento Creston Whiting & Mike Petrillo 0 CSU Sacramento Katie Rupp & Gerald Clift 0 Denver Tyler Warner & David Milavetz 0 Kansas City Kansas C Noah Fugate & Corey Lande 0 Northern Iowa (Univ.) Al Hiland & Steven Mischel 0 Northern Iowa (Univ.) Allie Chase & Rhonda Greenway 0 West Georgia Darcey McCampbell & Sara Simonis 0 Wichita State Creighton Coleman & Matt Munday 0 Wichita State Brian Box & Patrick Rinker 0 Partially completed (number entered out of 125) CSU Sacramento Michelle Penuliar & David Rekow 13 East Los Angeles College ciarys Najera & mikee padilla 18 Binghamton Philip Shulman & Justin Brown 20 Miami (Florida) Simone Branch & Jonathan Raof 30 Miami (Florida) Zoheb Nensey & David Trigaux 56 George Mason Univers Emily Owens & Janna Reynolds 73 Cal Poly SLO Kenneth Kozakura & Dominic Surano 79 Wichita State Matt Coleman & Eric Robinson 96 Binghamton Lauren Cameron & Peter Fountain 98 Cal. State Chico Amara Larpthavesarp & Carl Reyes 112 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090320/bc401c1d/attachment.htm From jwpatt00 at email.uky.edu Fri Mar 20 10:52:59 2009 From: jwpatt00 at email.uky.edu (Patterson, J W) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:52:59 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] TOC Quals: Georgia, Harker, Lakeland Message-ID: NOTE: NEW HOTEL FOR THE 2009 TOC HOLIDAY INN NORTH 1950 Newtown Pike PHONE: 859--233--0512 Room Rate: $95+ tax /per night (up to 4 in a room) ANOTHER HOTEL NOTE: The hotel is now taking a wait list for those still hoping to get in with the Holiday. UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA David Cisneros, director of the University of Georgia Invitational, has certified the 2009 TOC quals. Georgia qualifies in Policy at the semi's level. POLICY Matt Rosenthal & Maggie Davis, Chattahoochee, (GA) Adi Sudarshan & Richie Choy, Chattahoochee, (GA) Jennifer Armstrong & Peyton Lee, Pace Academy, (GA) Anshu Sathian & Daniel Taylor, Westminster, (GA) HARKER Adam Nelson and Carol Green, Co-Directors of the Harker Invitational, has certified the 2009 TOC quals. Harker qualifies in both LD and Public Forum at the semi's level. LINCOLN DOUGLAS Rohit Ramakumar, Lynbrook High School, CA *Narayan Subramanian, Lynbrook High School, CA Daniel Khalessi, Mountain View High School, CA *Natalie Pei, Mountain View High School, CA Daniel Daks, Scarsdale High School, NY Eric Thurm, Scarsdale High School, NY PUBLIC FORUM Max Elder - Luke Elder, Manchester Essex, MA Jack Kelly - Matt Hoyle, MA: Manchester Essex, MA Jalal Buckley - Roxanna Haghighat, Saint Francis, CA Mike Graham - Alex Noot, Blake, MN LAKELAND (NY) Stefan Bauschard, director of the Lakeland Invitational, has certified the 2009 TOC qualifiers. Lakeland qualifies in Policy at the semi's level POLICY Ian Irlander & Zack Ellis, Bronx, NY Rebecca Rothfeld & Michael Luxemburg, Georgetown Day, DC Amrit Kanesa-Thasan & Ayan Sanyal, Lexington, MA Jeffery Boxer & William Huang, Lexington, MA *Hao Shen & Apoorv Kumar, Lexington, MA JW PATTERSON, TOC FOUNDER From lukephill at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 11:58:48 2009 From: lukephill at gmail.com (Luke Hill) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:58:48 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Seeking NDT Judging Message-ID: Northwestern is looking to hire judging for the NDT. We pay well and in cash. Backchannel me if interested. lukephill at gmail.com Luke P. Hill Program Coordinator Northwestern Debate Society 847-467-0345 (o) 678-852-9280 (c) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Additionally there will be a small reception commencing at the conclusion of the Opening Awards in the President's Suite (145) for friends of longtime Emporia State Debate Director Glen Strickland. Wishing you the best of tournament experiences. chief Darren Elliott Director of Debate and Forensics--KCKCC CEDA President From lukephill at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 19:48:53 2009 From: lukephill at gmail.com (Luke Hill) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:48:53 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] NDT Rounds Purchased Message-ID: Thanks for all the interest. See you in Austin. Luke P. Hill Program Coordinator Northwestern Debate Society 847-467-0345 (o) 678-852-9280 (c) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"the first appearance by a sitting president on the tonight > show may well be the last." > > the joke goes back to the campaign trail where hillary challenged him > to a bowling match for the nomination. > > i ask you to switch the metaphor. obama is the most teleprompter > reliant president since the introduction of teleprompters. yet, he > has the false reputation as an orator. speaking with a teleprompter > is akin to speaking with a crutch highlighting the inability to go on > your own. the president is a symbol of a society reliant on the > government as he is upon the teleprompter. a society of special > olympic citizens who "need" the government to make their decisions for > them. > > the teleprompter crutch caused a big problem the other day with the > irish prime minister when obama's speech was being re-read by his > counterpart. > > http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Barack-Obama-Thanks-Himself-In-Teleprompt-Blunder-During-Address-With-Irish-PM-On-St-Patricks-Day/Article/200903315243932?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_Article_Teaser_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15243932_Barack_Obama_Thanks_Himself_In_Teleprompt_Blunder_During_Address_With_Irish_PM_On_St_Patricks_Day > > soetoro keeps trying to laugh it off. sorry, buddy, it's not funny > that you suck so bad. one big speech on TV without a teleprompter, > that's all i'm asking for. who cares about your bowling? you suck > @ speaking without a teleprompter, robot. > > so far, obama is obominable at his job. worse than bush because rove > ran the show. definitely, faring worse than clinton. a rookie > worried about limbaugh. > > i'm glad they nailed geithner telling dodd to remove the addendum that > would've cancelled the AIG bonuses. the resignation'll be easy. > nobody else has been hired yet to work in the treasury department. > another fiasco. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. Check it out. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate Although this was entertaining to read, when you rant try to bring up more substantive statements that are more grounded in reality. There is no such thing as "going on your own" anyone giving an important/ highly significant speech has written down what they were going to say before hand. No one is soo arrogant that they would free ball a speech like the state of the union. Maybe you are so holy that words pop into your head when you give your easily forgotten speeches, congrats to you. Also your clever uses of president Obama's name as in obominable ad obamism is a nice touch but try using that are in the dictionary, you aren't Shakespeare and we all stopped making up words to diss people back in the 4th grade. Keep up the good posts. Kyle"this was copied from my teleprompter."Rouse From ermocito at gmail.com Sat Mar 21 12:15:25 2009 From: ermocito at gmail.com (Eric Morris) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:15:25 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] NDT Results - 2004 Message-ID: <6bd35ee10903211015r29e8e046od2e48e33b608e896@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone who keeps better records than I do have a copy of the 2004 NDT Cum sheets? If so, can you backchannel me? Ermo MoState -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 3/22/09, Sandoz, M L wrote: > I am sorry you could not be at the 2009 CEDA Nationals. You are missing > what I am sure will become known as one of the BEST national tournaments > ever - Sarah Partlow Lefevre, Desaray Brown, and the rest of the ISU staff > have been ABSOLUTELY wonderful. They have provided all the necessities > and ALL the "extras" imagineable to make this tournament wonderful. I am > certain that we will refer to "The ISU Model of Tournament Hospitality" as > the IDEAL for a long long time. > ------------------------------------------------- > Sandoz, M L > Director of Debate > Vanderbilt University > Email: mary.l.sandoz at Vanderbilt.Edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > -- Sent from my mobile device From oguevara at hotmail.com Sun Mar 22 14:25:00 2009 From: oguevara at hotmail.com (omar guevara) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:25:00 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] To those not in Pocatello In-Reply-To: <40252.134.50.252.145.1237742527.squirrel@vuwebmail.vanderbilt.edu> References: <40252.134.50.252.145.1237742527.squirrel@vuwebmail.vanderbilt.edu> Message-ID: I concur. I would also like to add two things: 1. I am glad so many folks had the opportunity to visit the Northern Rockies. We're a small debate community and we're thrilled to have all our friends here. The last time the community was here was in 98 at the University of Utah for the NDT. So ISU's hosting of CEDA Nationals is not only much appreciated, but historic. 2. I met Desi when she was a young gal debating for Joe Carver at the College of Eastern Utah in 2001. I got to know her, because as fate would have it, she debated with Veronica Barreto (University of Miami) cross-country in a year long swing partnership. When I took over the Weber program in 03, Desi was willing to give both Weber State and WSU Debate a shot. A natural leader, she quickly rose to the top and qualified for the NDT debating with Mike Shackelford (now the Director at Rowland Hall High School in Salt Lake). Desi always did everything any director could ask of a debater - good grades, great effort, and an amazing "i CAN" attitude. So now so many years have come and went, and I see Desi doing this weekend what she always did best - being a leader and getting the job done. I see her and I can help but think, "I hope my own daughter grows up to be half the woman Des is." I mean, She is THAT type of human being. If you don't know her, you should. You're really missing out. While I have no doubt that the folks in Idaho will throw her a ticker-tape parade for her outstanding efforts, I just wanted her to know that her Utah family is really proud of her as well - and that she always has a special place in every WSU Wildcat's heart. Great Job ISU! Great Job Desi! OG Omar G Guevara II Director of Forensics Department of Communication College of Arts & Humanities Weber State University Ogden, Utah 801.626.6220 (Office) 801.668.6910 (Cell) Oguevara at hotmail.com Oguevara at weber.edu PLEASE VISIT: WWW.WEBERDEBATE.COM > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:22:07 -0500 > From: ML.Sandoz at Vanderbilt.Edu > To: edebate at ndtceda.com > Subject: [eDebate] To those not in Pocatello > > I am sorry you could not be at the 2009 CEDA Nationals. You are missing > what I am sure will become known as one of the BEST national tournaments > ever - Sarah Partlow Lefevre, Desaray Brown, and the rest of the ISU staff > have been ABSOLUTELY wonderful. They have provided all the necessities > and ALL the "extras" imagineable to make this tournament wonderful. I am > certain that we will refer to "The ISU Model of Tournament Hospitality" as > the IDEAL for a long long time. > ------------------------------------------------- > Sandoz, M L > Director of Debate > Vanderbilt University > Email: mary.l.sandoz at Vanderbilt.Edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate _________________________________________________________________ Internet Explorer 8 ? Now Available. Faster, safer, easier. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Winebrenner--Cal Poly SLO Thanks, chief Darren Elliott Director of Debate and Forensics--KCKCC CEDA President From malgorthewarrior at hotmail.com Sun Mar 22 20:33:32 2009 From: malgorthewarrior at hotmail.com (M G) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:33:32 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] professionalism Message-ID: i tried to make the committee, but chief said CEDA wasn't ready for my level of professional commitment..... malgor _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme From andy.edebate at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 22:27:51 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:27:51 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] professionalism In-Reply-To: <49C6BA620200009300026EC0@mymail.kckcc.edu> References: <49C6BA620200009300026EC0@mymail.kckcc.edu> Message-ID: <9368bc9b0903222027xc1cbfc9g7375a2c6b8d4fac7@mail.gmail.com> Smiley faces aside ... There is something called prep time during which judges can do stuff other than think deeply about the debate On 3/22/09, Darren Elliott wrote: > Professionalism--"Paying attention to a break round between Emory and > Idaho State one might be scheduled to judge at the National Tournament, > as opposed to say, posting to edebate, playing minesweeper, checking the > latest American Idol results on the internet." > > : ) > chief > >>>> M G 03/22/09 8:33 PM >>> > > i tried to make the committee, but chief said CEDA wasn't ready for my > level of professional commitment..... > > malgor > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for > Hotmail?. > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate -- Sent from my mobile device From oguevara at hotmail.com Sun Mar 22 22:57:26 2009 From: oguevara at hotmail.com (omar guevara) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:57:26 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] professionalism In-Reply-To: <9368bc9b0903222027xc1cbfc9g7375a2c6b8d4fac7@mail.gmail.com> References: <49C6BA620200009300026EC0@mymail.kckcc.edu> <9368bc9b0903222027xc1cbfc9g7375a2c6b8d4fac7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: aside from andy's D (which is totally reasonable - prep time is personal time), I'm not sure what the O is for such a committee. i know the vote is done and all, but aside from the then veil of litigation mitigation (which might be a votable net benefit, I don't know), what exactly is the purpose of the endeavor? furthermore, pref sheets solve concerns of adjudicator professionalism better than any standing organization committe could ever hope to achieve. folks who are bad for the pedagogical experience of my students (the ballot aside), don't judge WSU. i know many old time directors who feel the same way. the "problem" that some folks saw was a bill-type scenario - an ugly interaction, at a tournament, but outside the confines of pref sheet solvency. some believe this is ground that justify the current course. that - i guess - is what the professionalism committee would be primarily concered with. although to be honest, I doubt the committee could craft anything more than my employer (and yours) already require from directors, coaches, and other educators. but in the quest to find a purpose and rationale for the committe, let us here hope that the committe does not get "mission creep" and start embarking on adventures best settled by the norms and practices of the community. the best of intentions and unintended consequences...murphy's law...blowback....the gambler's paradox...call it what you will... OG Omar G Guevara II Director of Forensics Department of Communication College of Arts & Humanities Weber State University Ogden, Utah 801.626.6220 (Office) 801.668.6910 (Cell) Oguevara at hotmail.com Oguevara at weber.edu PLEASE VISIT: WWW.WEBERDEBATE.COM > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:27:51 -0600 > From: andy.edebate at gmail.com > To: delliott at kckcc.edu; malgorthewarrior at hotmail.com; edebate at ndtceda.com > Subject: Re: [eDebate] professionalism > > Smiley faces aside ... There is something called prep time during > which judges can do stuff other than think deeply about the debate > > On 3/22/09, Darren Elliott wrote: > > Professionalism--"Paying attention to a break round between Emory and > > Idaho State one might be scheduled to judge at the National Tournament, > > as opposed to say, posting to edebate, playing minesweeper, checking the > > latest American Idol results on the internet." > > > > : ) > > chief > > > >>>> M G 03/22/09 8:33 PM >>> > > > > i tried to make the committee, but chief said CEDA wasn't ready for my > > level of professional commitment..... > > > > malgor > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Express your personality in color! 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Tomorrow - Shuttles will begin leaving the hotels at 8 am to transport folks for the business meeting. - The meeting will begin at 9 am in the SUB 2nd Floor Theater. - Breakfast will be provided at the SUB from 8-11 am. - The triples will start at 11 am. - All judges are obligated through the double-octofinals or one round past your program's obligation. - Novice quarter-finals will take place at the same time at as the open division double-octofinals. Thanks and good luck to everyone tomorrow. 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Thanks. 5-Sep 12-Sep 19-Sep GSU (Sat-Mon) O,JV,N Joe Bellon joe.bellon at gmail.com Golden Gate Season Opener, SFSU (fri-sun) O,JV,N Shawn Whalen swhalen at sfsu.edu Northern Iowa (sat-mon) O,JV,N Katherine Lavelle katherine.lavelle at uni.edu 26-Sep Clarion (fri-sun) O,JV,N Jim Lyle jlyle at clarion.edu 3-Oct KY (Sat-Mon) open Roger Solt resolt2 at email.uky.edu 10-Oct Richmond (sat-mon) O,JV,N Kevin Kuswa kkuswa at richmond.edu 17-Oct VANDY (Fri-Sun) O,JV,N M.L. Sandoz ML.Sandoz at Vanderbilt.Edu 24-Oct 31-Oct 7-Nov 14-Nov 21-Nov WAKE (Sat-Mon) open Ross Smith smithr at wfu.edu 21-Nov APSU (Fri-Sun) O,JV,N Kris Willis williskw at appstate.edu 28-Nov 5-Dec 12-Dec 19-Dec 26-Dec 2-Jan 9-Jan 16-Jan WGA (Sat-Mon) O,JV,N Mike Hester UWGDebate at gmail.com 23-Jan 30-Jan Hurricane Debates (Fri-Sun) O,JV,N David Steinberg dave at miami.edu 6-Feb 13-Feb 20-Feb 27-Feb D6/SEC Regionals O,JV,N Mike Hester UWGDebate at gmail.com 6-Mar 13-Mar NJDDT (sat-mon) JV,N Terri Easley teasley3 at jccc.edu 20-Mar 27-Mar 3-Apr David L. Steinberg Director of Debate, Lecturer in Communication Studies University of Miami PO Box 248127 Coral Gables, FL 33124 FLW 3015 305-284-5553 204-385-5216 (fax) dave at miami.edu http://debate.miami.edu/ From uwgdebate at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 10:27:59 2009 From: uwgdebate at gmail.com (michael hester) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:27:59 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] CEDA Blizzard Update: Shuttle coming to pick people up for Triples? Message-ID: <2e0f7ba70903230827r1a4d922ds6395f9b023293304@mail.gmail.com> those of us from the South are weather wimps. conceded. When will the shuttle be stopping by the Best Western to pick folks up for triples? the schedule in the booklet is based on a quads debate that didn't actually occur. i really, really don't want to drive my rental vehicle up and down the hills of Pocatello in the snow. it will be ugly. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090323/cd2c93b5/attachment.htm From brian95882 at msn.com Mon Mar 23 14:02:50 2009 From: brian95882 at msn.com (brian schrader) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:02:50 +0000 Subject: [eDebate] Rounds for Sale at the NDT Message-ID: Justin Eckstein (UNLV) has 4 rounds for sale at the NDT. If interested, email him at Eckstei5 at Unlv.nevada.edu _________________________________________________________________ Internet Explorer 8 ? Now Available. 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There will be 36 judging units of "1", 36 of "2", etc. There will be 8 categories in all. Category 8 will be the strikes." There are 218 judges. Which - if put into categories of 36 - would create 6 categories. Are there only 6 categories OR are there going to be 27 in each category? -- James H. Herndon III Barkley Forum Emory University "Far from idleness being the root of all evil, it is rather the only true good." - Soren Kierkegaard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090324/b91cb4ad/attachment.htm From alfred.snider at uvm.edu Tue Mar 24 10:33:27 2009 From: alfred.snider at uvm.edu (Alfred Snider) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:33:27 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Need to hire judges Message-ID: <49C8FD47.7070208@uvm.edu> On April 3-5 the University of Vermont will be hosting the US Universities Debating Championship in the WUDC/BP format. We have 147 teams registered now and we are seeking judges to hire. Full information about the tournament is at http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/usu/Welcome.html A number of teams attending would like to hire judges, and we would like to invite our friends to fill that need. If you respond to us with interest, we will try and match you up with a team that needs to hire a judge. The standard rate is $100 and they supply your housing. But, you can negotiate for whatever you wish. You will need to be here by Noon on Friday 3 April. Neill Harvey-Smith, president of the World Debating Council, we be doing training on Friday afternoon, you will also score a sample debate as part of the training. You will be able to take advantage of our excellent meals, rocking parties with DJ & live band, constant snacks and high quality debating. Let me know if you are interested. ACS aka Tuna -- Alfred C. Snider aka Tuna Edwin Lawrence Professor of Forensics University of Vermont Huber House, 475 Main Street, UVM, Burlington, VT 05405 USA Global Debate Blog http://globaldebateblog.blogspot.com Debate Central http://debate.uvm.edu World Debate Institute http://debate.uvm.edu/wdi/ World Debate Institute Blog http://worlddebateinstitute.blogspot.com 802-656-0097 office telephone 802-656-4275 office fax From Gary.N.Larson at wheaton.edu Tue Mar 24 12:27:32 2009 From: Gary.N.Larson at wheaton.edu (Gary Larson) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:27:32 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Results and Pairings to date - qtrs Message-ID: <49C8D1B4.3F5C.0033.0@wheaton.edu> xls -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090324/b9713972/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:56:02 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Ride to SLC tonight or early am Message-ID: <650DB0CBB8E8E3418E627BD179329677F94774EA06@XMAIL2.sooner.net.ou.edu> I have a debater who needs a ride to SLC to be there by 8 am. Is there anyone leaving at such an early time? and do you have room? I am at the tournament. please email me? thanks jackie From beth.skinner at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 18:10:24 2009 From: beth.skinner at gmail.com (Beth Skinner) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:10:24 -0600 Subject: [eDebate] Anyone selling 2 NDT rounds? Message-ID: <4550c7380903241610x6727f2e6ud994d745eb4e9b02@mail.gmail.com> We're suddenly in need of 2 rounds. Anybody help us out? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The goal was to not assign any judges in the bottom 1/2 to any team in the tournament (including presets). That goal was also met. It should also be noted that 1 was the most frequent rank. Not surprisingly there was a cluster around 12-13. The average mutuality difference was 10 ordinal ranks (8%). 3) A spreadsheet of all of the ranks given by team by round, with averages by team and by round disaggregated by rounds where teams were at the break, above the break (including presets), teams already eliminated, and the total of rounds "in" the tournament and "out" of the tournament. Since the team identity is masked, the green rows indicate teams 4-3 or better after 7 and red teams that were out by that point. It is notable that the average for rounds in the tournament was 21.25 out of 125 and all rounds overall was 22.71. 4) A spreadsheet that translates ordinal ranks into 9-category equivalents with the same data as sheet 3. 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I continue to be amazed at both the quantity and quality of his service to our community. --Neil Berch West Virginia University ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Larson To: Edebate Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: [eDebate] Prefs at CEDA Nats Given that many of you are going through the arduous task of filling out pref sheets for the NDT, let me supply some info regarding pref assignments at CEDA that some of the data geeks might find helpful. I'm providing 4 attachments (as usual I'll answer questions about the data) 1) A graph of the frequency distribution of all ordinal ranks assigned at CEDA. There were 125 judges - the worst assignment to a team out of the tournament was 82. The goal was to not assign any judges in the bottom 1/3 (7-9 in 9 cats). That goal was met. 2) A graph of the frequency distribution of all ordinal ranks assigned to the 73 teams that had 4 or more wins going into round 8. The goal was to not assign any judges in the bottom 1/2 to any team in the tournament (including presets). That goal was also met. It should also be noted that 1 was the most frequent rank. Not surprisingly there was a cluster around 12-13. The average mutuality difference was 10 ordinal ranks (8%). 3) A spreadsheet of all of the ranks given by team by round, with averages by team and by round disaggregated by rounds where teams were at the break, above the break (including presets), teams already eliminated, and the total of rounds "in" the tournament and "out" of the tournament. Since the team identity is masked, the green rows indicate teams 4-3 or better after 7 and red teams that were out by that point. It is notable that the average for rounds in the tournament was 21.25 out of 125 and all rounds overall was 22.71. 4) A spreadsheet that translates ordinal ranks into 9-category equivalents with the same data as sheet 3. It is notable that the average for rounds in the tournament was 2.01 and all rounds overall was 2.12. _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090324/659d5885/attachment.htm From tiffany.alexandra.a at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 21:44:10 2009 From: tiffany.alexandra.a at gmail.com (Tiffany Alvarez) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:44:10 -0700 Subject: [eDebate] My email! Message-ID: <850e40350903241944lf63948bhaec9bd5cc83eeacd@mail.gmail.com> Tiffany.Alexandra.A at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I continue to be amazed at both the quantity and quality of his service to our community. --Neil Berch West Virginia University ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Larson To: Edebate Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: [eDebate] Prefs at CEDA Nats Given that many of you are going through the arduous task of filling out pref sheets for the NDT, let me supply some info regarding pref assignments at CEDA that some of the data geeks might find helpful. I'm providing 4 attachments (as usual I'll answer questions about the data) 1) A graph of the frequency distribution of all ordinal ranks assigned at CEDA. There were 125 judges - the worst assignment to a team out of the tournament was 82. The goal was to not assign any judges in the bottom 1/3 (7-9 in 9 cats). That goal was met. 2) A graph of the frequency distribution of all ordinal ranks assigned to the 73 teams that had 4 or more wins going into round 8. The goal was to not assign any judges in the bottom 1/2 to any team in the tournament (including presets). That goal was also met. It should also be noted that 1 was the most frequent rank. Not surprisingly there was a cluster around 12-13. The average mutuality difference was 10 ordinal ranks (8%). 3) A spreadsheet of all of the ranks given by team by round, with averages by team and by round disaggregated by rounds where teams were at the break, above the break (including presets), teams already eliminated, and the total of rounds "in" the tournament and "out" of the tournament. Since the team identity is masked, the green rows indicate teams 4-3 or better after 7 and red teams that were out by that point. It is notable that the average for rounds in the tournament was 21.25 out of 125 and all rounds overall was 22.71. 4) A spreadsheet that translates ordinal ranks into 9-category equivalents with the same data as sheet 3. It is notable that the average for rounds in the tournament was 2.01 and all rounds overall was 2.12. _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090324/9910a429/attachment.htm From sweetsc13 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 24 23:08:04 2009 From: sweetsc13 at hotmail.com (Stephanie Cordero) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:08:04 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Lost Phone Message-ID: Light blue Samsung lost yesterday night at the red lion. Please call 917-561-8099 or give it to Asha. Thanks. 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Beth > > On Mar 24, 2009 10:55 PM, "Ralph Paone" wrote: > > Congrats to Towson and OU for wrecking shop all weekend.. who won? > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090325/e849a246/attachment.htm From shree.awsare at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 07:38:57 2009 From: shree.awsare at gmail.com (Shree Awsare) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:38:57 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] West Georgia BS Cite Requests Message-ID: If someone can backchannel me, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Shree Awsare New School AD -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There are now 214 judges in the pool (two fewer than this afternoon - thanks for your patience with respect to changes). The number indicates the number of prefs already entered Baylor John Cook & Alex McVey 213 California Kathy Bowen & Andres Gannon 213 California Mike Burshteyn & Jacob Polin 213 California James Brockaway & Rahul Jaswa 213 Cornell University Dan Himmelstein & John Karin 213 Dartmouth Shane Avidan & Caroline Harkins 213 Kansas (Univ. of) Brett Bricker & Nate Johnson 213 Kansas State Beth Mendenhall & Derek Ziegler 213 Liberty University Stephanie Dillard & Ross Garrett 213 Minnesota Logan Chin & Arif Hasan 213 Northwestern Matt Fisher & John Warden 213 Northwestern Rob Mulholand & Stephanie Spies 213 Redlands Alyssa Lucas-Bolin & Evan Matthews 213 Samford Dan Bagwell & Logan Gramzinski 213 Wayne State Universi Sydney Pasquinelli & Alex Pasquinelli 213 Miami Aaron Vinson & Drew Wallenstein 209 Harvard Abhishek Bose-Kolanu & Ralph Paone 173 Southern California Mike Jones & Mima Lazarevic 173 Binghamton Ben Crossan & Tansy Woan 160 Nevada Las Vegas Michael Eisenstadt & Travis Cochran 136 Kansas (Univ. of) Sean Kennedy & Dylan Quigley 133 Harvard Eli Jacobs & Alex Parkinson 131 Northwestern Greg Friend & Mary Gregg 102 Georgetown Cody Forrester & Bon Koo 90 Idaho State Paul Montreuil & Danielle Jennings 81 Wichita State Matt Coleman & Eric Robinson 77 Michigan University Edmund Zagorin & Maria Liu 52 George Mason Univers Emily Owens & Janna Reynolds 45 Texas San Antonio Andy Montee & Christopher Thomas 40 Wyoming Sam Allen & Jamie Piechura 14 Rochester Ryan Bach & Rona Yang 5 Baylor Amanda Luppes & Chris Rooney 0 Central Oklahoma (Un Stacy Spomer & Chris Spurlock 0 Central Oklahoma (Un Andy Casey & Avery Henry 0 Dartmouth Trevor Chenoweth & Rob Rein 0 Emory Matt Senghas & Stephen Weil 0 Emory Ovais Inamullah & Ana Nikolic 0 Emory Nicholas Miller & Chipp Schwab 0 George Mason Univers Adam Herbert & Mark Offenbach 0 Georgetown Dorothy Hector & Lucy Zhu 0 Gonzaga Nick Bormann & Abe Corrigan 0 Gonzaga James Joseph & Brent Hamilton 0 Michigan State Univ. Amit Bindra & Gustavo Eyzaguirre 0 Michigan State Univ. Garrett Abelkop & Carly Wunderlich 0 Oklahoma R.J. Giglio & Nick Watts 0 San Francisco State Stephanie Eisenberg & Jessica Whittle 0 Southern California Monica Do & Paul Harold 0 Texas Laura Boyle & Nick Whitaker 0 Texas Kenny Cauthen & Drew McNeil 0 Texas-Dallas Andrew Baker & Brian Rubaie 0 Towson Deven Cooper & Dayvon Love 0 Towson Adam Jackson & Deverick Murray 0 Vanderbilt Nicholas Brown & Cameron Norris 0 West Georgia Jadon Marianetti & Zak Schaller 0 West Georgia Vince Binder & Jim Schultz 0 Whitman College Nate Cohn & Daniel Straus 0 Whitman College Brian Cole & Alex Zendeh 0 Wichita State Brian Box & Patrick Rinker 0 Wyoming Mike Bausch & Grae Harper 0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Due at 11:00 AM (11 haven't started yet) The number indicates the number of prefs already entered Baylor John Cook & Alex McVey 213 Cornell University Dan Himmelstein & John Karin 213 Kansas (Univ. of) Brett Bricker & Nate Johnson 213 Kansas State Beth Mendenhall & Derek Ziegler 213 Samford Dan Bagwell & Logan Gramzinski 213 Miami Aaron Vinson & Drew Wallenstein 209 Harvard Abhishek Bose-Kolanu & Ralph Paone 173 Binghamton Ben Crossan & Tansy Woan 160 George Mason Univers Adam Herbert & Mark Offenbach 147 Kansas (Univ. of) Sean Kennedy & Dylan Quigley 133 Texas San Antonio Andy Montee & Christopher Thomas 120 George Mason Univers Emily Owens & Janna Reynolds 102 Georgetown Cody Forrester & Bon Koo 90 Rochester Ryan Bach & Rona Yang 84 Wichita State Matt Coleman & Eric Robinson 77 Oklahoma R.J. Giglio & Nick Watts 34 West Georgia Vince Binder & Jim Schultz 5 Baylor Amanda Luppes & Chris Rooney 0 Central Oklahoma (Un Stacy Spomer & Chris Spurlock 0 Central Oklahoma (Un Andy Casey & Avery Henry 0 Emory Nicholas Miller & Chipp Schwab 0 Georgetown Dorothy Hector & Lucy Zhu 0 Gonzaga Nick Bormann & Abe Corrigan 0 Gonzaga James Joseph & Brent Hamilton 0 Texas Kenny Cauthen & Drew McNeil 0 Towson Deven Cooper & Dayvon Love 0 Towson Adam Jackson & Deverick Murray 0 Wichita State Brian Box & Patrick Rinker 0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090326/8e17502a/attachment.htm From bmoreboi325 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 26 09:13:22 2009 From: bmoreboi325 at yahoo.com (Deven) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [eDebate] LOST KEYS?? Towson Message-ID: <386321.366.qm@web65411.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> HEY did anyone find a set of keys at CEDA? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090326/90ec7d9b/attachment.htm From Gary.N.Larson at wheaton.edu Thu Mar 26 09:21:05 2009 From: Gary.N.Larson at wheaton.edu (Gary Larson) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:21:05 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Outstanding prefs for the NDT as of 9:15 AM Due at 11 Message-ID: <49CB4901.3F5C.0033.0@wheaton.edu> According to records at 9:15 AM the following teams still have prefs outstanding. There are now 214 judges in the pool. Due at 11:00 AM (3 haven't started yet) The number indicates the number of prefs already entered Kansas (Univ. of) Brett Bricker & Nate Johnson 213 Samford Dan Bagwell & Logan Gramzinski 213 Miami Aaron Vinson & Drew Wallenstein 209 George Mason Univers Adam Herbert & Mark Offenbach 203 Rochester Ryan Bach & Rona Yang 183 Harvard Abhishek Bose-Kolanu & Ralph Paone 173 Binghamton Ben Crossan & Tansy Woan 160 George Mason Univers Emily Owens & Janna Reynolds 102 Oklahoma R.J. Giglio & Nick Watts 33 Emory Nicholas Miller & Chipp Schwab 0 Gonzaga Nick Bormann & Abe Corrigan 0 Gonzaga James Joseph & Brent Hamilton 0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090326/eb855098/attachment.htm From delliott at kckcc.edu Fri Mar 27 00:10:11 2009 From: delliott at kckcc.edu (Darren Elliott) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:10:11 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Presidential Thank Yous Re: CEDA NATS Message-ID: <49CC196302000093000272FF@mymail.kckcc.edu> I plan to have a couple more emails before I officially am no longer your CEDA President. But since I am stuck in a snow storm in Wyoming I figured I could get this one out now. This was one of the most efficiently run, most hospitable, and excellent Nationals in my memory. While I was honored to be a part of it, I consider myself lucky to have this Nationals fall on my watch. Some people who deserve the credit: Sarah Partlow-Lefevre: An amazing coach, director, host, mother, wife, woman in CEDA. She does it all. The complete package. To balance all she balances--wow! Coached a team to Quarters (congrats Paul and Danielle), directs an awesome program, hosted and coordinated an amazing staff, made sure she made phone calls to and took time for her family, hosted a donor and other dignitaries, and did it all while looking like it was no big deal on the outside. The picture of cool and calm. Your student workers were right--this community loves you!! Desaray: Another amazing person. She was a good debater. Now she makes one helluva staff coordinator. She ran a tight ship but everyone on her staff loved her and smiled through 14 hour days that I am sure they never could have perceived what they would be like. All this and puts up with Odekirk! That itself is worthy of a tribute. But seriously, the smoothness of the days--not possible without you. Gary Larson: Debate's man behind the curtain. Often unseen and underappreciated. We cannot say enough how much he means to this community and our tournaments. With the smallest of judge pools he puts to bed all fears of bad prefs. THE MOST COMMON RANKING OF A JUDGED PLACED WAS A 1. AMAZING FOLKS. AND FEARS THAT FILLING A TRIPS BRACKET WOULD RESULT IN BAD JUDGING--NOT WITH GARY. I seriously meant it at the awards ceremony--a reason for cloning--Gary Larson. Thanks Gary for making us all look so good. Wayne Kraemer: Debate's favorite mustache (no offense Steinberg) and the man who makes the coordination of multiple buildings and ballot collection seem easy. Ive seen him do this job under the most challenging of layouts and he does it with ease. He runs a great tournament on the outside of operations and having him a part of yet another one meant a lot to me. Idaho State Students: Folks if you werent here you can never appreciate the amount of work and diligence these folks put in. They always smiled, they always did whatever asked--even in snow and rain--and they did it right the first time everytime. 35 I think was the number. Amazing. My only regret--not getting to know them better. The ones I did talk to were amazing students and people--and you could tell all of them really respected and looked up to Sarah and Des. Pass along the community thanks. Tournament Staff: The folks who double checked buildings, ensured judges were spotted early and shuffled off to their rooms, ran last minute ballots, and otherwise made us all look good. They were: Kelly McDonald, ML Sandoz, Mike Davis, Greg Achten, Gordon Stables, Jeff Jarman, Joe Patrice and Kathryn Rubino who came without teams and worked as tournament staff and judged prelims (amazing duo). Kelly and ML were also here on their own and continue to give everything they have to this organization. Teams that travelled to Pocatello: I owe you a huge thank you for making this a memorable Nationals for a very humbled President. Teams that could not be here truly missed an experience. Those that came know what I mean. Thank you for supporting the tournament and the Rocky Mountain Region. I love CEDA Nationals. I love the people, the community building, and the excitement. Thank you for everything--and when I lost my voice on elim day, thank you for the kind words as I read decisions cracking my voice all the way. Ill even thank those of you who provided some levity at those times. Towson Cooper and Love and Oklahoma Giglio and Watts: A special thank you for the class act and excellent final round. You 4 gave your all and have proven once again why CEDA Nationals is a special event. RJ--your 1AC shout out to the "people" for the "peoples tournament" and the "peoples championship" will forever resonate in my mind and heart about CEDA Nationals. You gave me goose bumps and I salute you especially. You are so right!! My team and family: My team--often the sacrificed ones over the course of this year. The duties of the organization are never easy and this year especially the case. I appreciate your understanding and willingness to fight on even when you lacked coaching at times. You all are amazing and you all have great futures. I look forward to seeing you grow. My coaching staff when they could be there stepped up and are amazing. Welcome aboard and I am lucky to have you Amy. To John, Clay, Adrian--you continue to be great friends and alumni and our program succeeds (6 years in a row the McClintock Champs) because of you all. My family--my beautiful daughter Ashley, while only 5, often asks me to do "debate talk" for her, but who I miss seeing too much because of travel. My amazing girlfriend (also an Ashley) of 2 years who kinda understands this debate thing but takes the brunt of our shared duties when I am on the road. Both of you will be rewarded with lots of time and love now that this whirlwind is winding down. I love you both. Lest I forget my dogs who spend too much time away from me when Im gone. : ) The road hasnt been easy, but to paraphrase a great debate coach, its the hard that makes it worthwhile. If debate was easy, everyone would do it. Thank you to all of you and it was great seeing all of my friends from around the country. Best of luck on the end of the year and safe travels always. With love and gratitude--your President Chief Darren Elliott Director of Debate and Forensics--KCKCC CEDA President From nicksciullo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 27 12:00:36 2009 From: nicksciullo at hotmail.com (nicksciullo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:00:36 -0700 Subject: [eDebate] Vacation reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But surely someone smuggled in a video camera...Who's got it? Surely it'll be on the google soon right? I'll keep googling under CEDA Finals... Boomer, b -- Blake Johnson Executive Director Bay Area Urban Debate League www.baudl.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090327/2c9c2459/attachment.htm From andy.edebate at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 23:48:23 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:48:23 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] video of CEDA Finals? In-Reply-To: <7c50ea8f0903272051o365a24c8k19283a4387f6fcc4@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c50ea8f0903272051o365a24c8k19283a4387f6fcc4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9368bc9b0903272148i3c8127a2v8d7a7a3afee0daff@mail.gmail.com> We have tapes but have not had not had a chance to convert them between travel from Idaho and the ndt if there is someone here who can do it maybe a scout or a helper we can get it done quicker otherwise it will be up within a few days of the end of the ndt if you can help find me or maybe Gordon stables Thanks Andy On 3/27/09, Blake Johnson wrote: > I understand that the internets don't stretch all the way to Idaho so you > couldn't do a live broadcast. But surely someone smuggled in a video > camera...Who's got it? > > Surely it'll be on the google soon right? I'll keep googling under CEDA > Finals... > > Boomer, > > b > > -- > Blake Johnson > Executive Director > Bay Area Urban Debate League > www.baudl.org > -- Sent from my mobile device From drmosbornesq at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 23:52:36 2009 From: drmosbornesq at gmail.com (bandana martin) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:52:36 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] power cable ndt Message-ID: <39c09a80903272152p4fba6427q2fd58fd49cbb0f40@mail.gmail.com> a targus laptop power cable was left in clay and jumbles' room (robinson[?] south?). if ur missing one and can describe the power cable w satisfactory accuracy, holler -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090327/eea1eda1/attachment.htm From andy.edebate at gmail.com Sat Mar 28 01:01:32 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:01:32 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] NDT Ballot counts Message-ID: <9368bc9b0903272301n6f2effd6h46f972f017bf49aa@mail.gmail.com> the link on the brushke site is broken, but i found it here it is,... http://commweb.fullerton.edu/jbruschke/NDT/NDTDocs/NDTProgressReport3.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090328/d470432b/attachment.htm From abby.schirmer at gmail.com Sat Mar 28 09:35:26 2009 From: abby.schirmer at gmail.com (Abby Schirmer) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:35:26 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Outstanding Rounds Message-ID: We are missing a few scouting reports from rounds yesterday. If you have an outstanding report PLEASE email it to ndtscout at gmail.com. we are missing.... Round One- Searles Round Two Sattery Shiner Martin Bluementhal Cloniger Zhou Gilson Round Three Morgan Katzman Beirmeister Ricard Krishamurth Gibson Thank you! Abby Schirmer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090328/7ed2e19e/attachment.htm From stables at usc.edu Sat Mar 28 10:37:52 2009 From: stables at usc.edu (Gordon Stables) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:37:52 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Troubleshooting with the NDT site Message-ID: <39c1ac890903280837v797c7911u29ab480bda809d18@mail.gmail.com> In response to folks who have asked about using the NDT website, here are a couple of suggestions. 1) Folks at the Doubletree will experience problems using the www.ndtdebate.com direct address will experience problems with the redirect. When at the doubletree, folks should instead go directly to http://commweb.fullerton.edu/jbruschke/NDT/Index.aspx 2) The direct address works just fine on campus. If however, using your firefox, many of the links will not work. You shouldn't have any problems using other browsers such as explorer or safari. To view announcements (such as pairings and tournament details) you can view the links at http://commweb.fullerton.edu/jbruschke/NDT/ViewAnnouncements.aspx?MsID=12 Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any questions. Gordon Gordon Stables, Ph.D. Director of Debate & Forensics Annenberg School for Communication University of Southern California Office: 213 740 2759 Fax: 213 740 3913 www.usctrojandebate.com From abby.schirmer at gmail.com Sat Mar 28 10:55:38 2009 From: abby.schirmer at gmail.com (Abby Schirmer) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:55:38 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Missing Team Info Message-ID: We have some teams on the wiki who do not have any information from the first three rounds at the NDT. If you watched any of these debates and have information/cites you could send please email it to ndtscout at gmai.com. Anything you have would be helpful so we can fill out the information on the wiki. Thanks in advance. Baylor CM (AFF) Dartmouth AH (Neg) Dartmouth CR (AFF) Georgia BL (AFF) Harvard BP (NEG) Harvard RS (NEG) Iowa SV (AFF) Liberty DG (AFF) Kansas KQ (AFF) Mac CP (AFF) NW MS (neg) Richmond FL (NEG) UTSA (AFF) Trinity BE (AFF) Wake GL (NEG) Abby Schirmer MSU -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This should include a clear and full statement of the applicant's response to the Christian mission of the University. However, candidates should not provide the "statement of scholarly agenda." Indicate the position of first choice in the letter of application. Visiting Instructor in Communication-position one-to teach four sections of COM 180 (Public Speaking and Rhetorical Analysis) each semester. In addition to teaching and other ordinary responsibilities, the ideal candidate for this position would offer some assistance to the Forensics Team. This role would be negotiated between the Director of Forensics and the faculty member but would likely include accompanying students to two tournaments each semester, attendance at weekly team meetings, and individual coaching sessions by appointment with policy or parliamentary debaters or competitors in individual events. Application review begins April 15, 2009, and continues until the search is closed. The successful candidate will have completed the minimum of a master's degree in communication and experience in working with a forensics team. Contact: Dr. Steven S. Lemley (steve.lemley at pepperdine.edu) Interim Chair, Communication Division Pepperdine University 24255 Pacific Coast Highway Malibu, CA 90263-42111 Visiting Instructor in Communication-position two-to teach four classes each semester that would likely include a combination over two semesters of: COM 180 (Public Speaking and Rhetorical Analysis), COM 200 (Communication Theory) and COM 301 (Message Creation and Effects). Evidence should be provided of a thorough acquaintance with the content material in the latter two courses. Application review begins April 15, 2009, and continues until the search is closed. The successful applicant will have completed the minimum of a master's degree in communication. Contact: Dr. Steven S. Lemley (steve.lemley at pepperdine.edu) Interim Chair, Communication Division Pepperdine University 24255 Pacific Coast Highway Malibu, CA 90263-42111 Visiting Instructor in Communication-position three-to teach four classes each semester that would likely include a combination over two semesters of: COM 200 (Communication Theory), and COM 300 (Introduction to Communication Research). Evidence should be provided of a thorough acquaintance with the content material in the latter two courses. Application review begins April 15, 2009, and continues until the search is closed. The successful applicant will have completed the minimum of a master's degree in communication. Contact: Dr. Steven S. Lemley (steve.lemley at pepperdine.edu) Interim Chair, Communication Division Pepperdine University 24255 Pacific Coast Highway Malibu, CA 90263-42111 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090330/6852c0f1/attachment.htm From andy.edebate at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 01:44:44 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:44:44 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Congrtas to Kansas and wake Message-ID: <9368bc9b0903302344n5aa1cad2x91b61bc0f92556ca@mail.gmail.com> 4-1 For Ku In finals, congrats to both...an ndt for the jay hawks and a second straight final appearance for wake GL...go ndt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090331/8b4d0446/attachment.htm From delliott at kckcc.edu Tue Mar 31 03:07:51 2009 From: delliott at kckcc.edu (Darren Elliott) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:07:51 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] Boomer Sooner--Rock Chalk Message-ID: <49D189070200009300027913@mymail.kckcc.edu> Unfamiliar to you? Get used to them. Look them up if you need to. Oklahoma--CEDA Champs Kansas--NDT Champs Congrats to two teams led by two amazing coaches in one of the most amazing regions in which to debate and coach. Of course Towson and Wake deserve props for back to back appearances as well. Proud of Jackie who I knew as a CEDA debater and proud of Scott who was one of the NDT coaches who helped make the merger more pleasant. You both deserve this--an amazing year! Bricker and Nate & Rj and Nick, enjoy your celebrations. Definitely deserved. CONGRATS! chief Darren Elliott Director of Debate and Forensics--KCKCC CEDA President From mandycastle at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 11:08:48 2009 From: mandycastle at gmail.com (mandy castle) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:08:48 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] please help - its for a good cause! Message-ID: As a former debater I am asking your help! Please take five seconds to help my friends' charity, The Generation Project, win $25k in much-needed funding. All you have to do is CLICK THE BOX next to The Generation Project at this website http://www.rugby.com/newsroom/blog_post.aspx?id=612f7892-0040-4826-ad58-4b46e819ea74 Thanks in advance for being so awesome and for helping The Generation Project expand opportunities for low-income youth. For more information go to www.thegenerationproject.org -- Mandy Castle Michigan Law 2010 Boston College 2007 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/attachments/20090331/98d58925/attachment.htm From andy.edebate at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 11:26:27 2009 From: andy.edebate at gmail.com (Andy Ellis) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:26:27 -0500 Subject: [eDebate] please help - its for a good cause! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9368bc9b0903310926h5839de5fq124f5eccbbf483ad@mail.gmail.com> Or you can vote for the organization I work for youth organizing urban revitalization systems we employ a lot of debaters to do community enterprise projects if we win the money its a promise that your vote will help debaters you know On 3/31/09, mandy castle wrote: > As a former debater I am asking your help! > > Please take five seconds to help my friends' charity, The Generation > Project, win $25k in much-needed funding. All you have to do is CLICK THE > BOX next to The Generation Project at this website > http://www.rugby.com/newsroom/blog_post.aspx?id=612f7892-0040-4826-ad58-4b46e819ea74 > > Thanks in advance for being so awesome and for helping The Generation > Project expand opportunities for low-income youth. For more information go > to www.thegenerationproject.org > > -- > Mandy Castle > Michigan Law 2010 > Boston College 2007 > -- Sent from my mobile device From jbhdb8 at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 15:15:03 2009 From: jbhdb8 at gmail.com (Josh) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:15:03 -0400 Subject: [eDebate] Thanks to Horns, congrats to JHawks and Deacons Message-ID: Hello, Just wanted to say thanks to Joel and all the Horns (yes, even Tiffee) for a great time in Austin this weekend. Things ran on time, food was plentiful, the weather (compared to Michigan where it was snowing) was amazing, and every Longhorn was helpful all the time. Thanks so much! Scott, Bricker, Johnson, and the KU coaches and crew.....CONGRATS....What a great year and great tournament. In particular congrats to my good friend Scott Harris for finally getting the watch he richly deserved. Very happy for you!!!!!!!! Ross, JP, Lamball-eeee, Gannon and the Deacons crew - its an amazing accomplishment to have gotten to finals twice. You should be incredibly proud of the consitency of performance and the excellence of your debating and preperation. Congrats to our District buddies MSU AW, MSU EB, NU FW, NU SM, for reaching the outrounds and to Wayne PP, Miami VW, and especially NU FG for great years and for qualifying and fierce competition at the NDT. Congrats to all the senoirs and thanks for allowing me the pleasure of judging you (even if I didnt)...Thanks for contributing to college debate and I wish you luck in your future! The world would be a less interesting place without people who challenge what we do and how we think as an activity. While I still believe affirmatives have to be Topical, thanks to all the teams that took risks and challenged everyone to think. Especially to OU who were incredibly classy and nice to us everytime we debated this year including doubles! Thanks to Towson for consistently challenging things and rocking the boat. Congrats to my good friends at U Minnesota who are really making the Gophers fearful in record time, same to the Hoyas, and Trinity U...really incredible how good you have gotten in the time of the new regimes! Congrats to all the seniors who have just had a final tournament debating. I wish you all luck on whatever you choose to do and hope you will come back to debate sometimes to help out. Finally, thanks to my group of debaters who helped this weekend (Edmund and Maria, Parker, Balla, Aakash, Lee, Lina and anyone who sent cards) and especially coaches - AK, Whit, Josh C., Scotty G, for making me less stressed every day. You all are the absolute best and I am lucky to work with all of you. Great NDT, Josh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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