[eDebate] anyone know who this is?

Paul Johnson paulj567 at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 28 21:28:17 CST 2008


columbia's finest- Andy Liu



--- michael hester <uwgdebate at gmail.com> wrote:


> saw this email in Bill Simmons' mailbag - person

> says they debated in

> college:

>

> *City: New York

> Name: Andy*

>

> When the Sonics owners pretended they wanted to stay

> in Seattle, they forced

> some numbers indicating how awesome sports are for

> Seattle. Now that they

> are trying to leave, they are making the opposite

> argument, that Seattle

> wouldn't care if the Sonics left. (Their evidence?

> One politician that

> nobody likes) I used to be on my college's debate

> team, and in debate lingo,

> that's called a double turn. In real life, it's

> called lying.

>

> What bothers me the most is how most columnists and

> commentators who know

> nothing about the financial history of the situation

> (which is inexcusable

> if they're going to cover professional sports) just

> assume it's natural to

> get public funding for any arena proposal and that

> any city who doesn't jump

> at the opportunity to pay for more money-making

> ventures for rich

> billionaires is automatically the one at fault. This

> is as shaky as the

> White House's "us vs. the world" logic -- you're

> either for the NBA or

> you're against it.

>

> Look, Seattle has paid for NBA arenas in the past.

> In 1995, KeyArena opened

> and Stern called it a model arena. People quickly

> forget. Honestly, if the

> tables were turned, I wouldn't want Oklahoma City's

> team if it was stolen

> under these conditions. I don't think any

> decently-hearted NBA fan would

> want it.

>

> Andy Liu?

>

> Andy Peterson?

>

> Andy Griffith?

>

>

>

> hester

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