[eDebate] A Message to the Debate Community

[Greg Thomas]

Can't.  I imagine that the answer is different for each person who treats
someone in a discriminatory or harmful way.  Maybe some people are jealous
of the success at CEDA, maybe some people are racist, maybe some people like
to find a reason that they lost that is not "I wasn't good enough".  Either
way, I imagine there are a ton of reasons for this kind of behavior, none of
which are any good.  Some people are stupid/bad or both.  Now, the next
question to ask is:  how to fix the situation?

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Adam Jackson <baltimoredebate at gmail.com>
wrote:


> OK...then answer it.

>

>

>

> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Greg Thomas <greg.thomas at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> >

> > Besides that, back to my original question...

> > >

> > > What have black people done to deserve the treatment we get in this

> > > activity?

> > >

> >

> > Taking this question at face value, the easy answer is "nothing".  I

> > think the question that need be answered is why this treatment takes place

> > in light of the fact nothing has been done to deserve it.

> >

> > Greg Thomas

> > Methodist University Debate

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Josh <jbhdb8 at gmail.com> wrote:

> > >

> > > > First, I think there has been a large outpouring of support and

> > > > cheers even on edebate for Towson.  I personally have seen about twenty

> > > > letters just on edebate (and personally tried to find every coach and

> > > > debater and offered congrats myself in email and face to face at the NDT).

> > > >

> > > > Second, I think anytime a team that hasn't cleared at most major

> > > > tournaments it comes as a suprise that they won a tournament.  In this case

> > > > a happy suprise.  I honestly hope that none of the "backlash" you are

> > > > referring to has to do with race....If you have felt that way that is really

> > > > too bad.  If the community really was that reactionary and unaccepting how

> > > > could Towson have won the CEDA tournament?

> > > >

> > > > I also think given the back-to-back nature of CEDA-NDT sometimes

> > > > congratulations are not loud enough.

> > > >

> > > > If people have not said it enough, CONGRATS to Towson and all of

> > > > their coaches.  As a former CEDA national champion, I am very pleased to

> > > > welcome Towson to the list of former champs!  What you accomplished is

> > > > incredible and should be celebrated,

> > > >

> > > > Josh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Adam Jackson <

> > > > baltimoredebate at gmail.com> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > As a sidebar from the obviously important topic discussion...

> > > > >

> > > > > I have a question for the debate community...

> > > > > What have black people done to deserve the treatment we get in

> > > > > this activity?

> > > > >

> > > > > All of you can run ANYTHING you want and people stay silent (i.e.

> > > > > Imperialism good, the "gangsta mentality") . At almost every tournament, the

> > > > > majority of the top debaters who win are white men. AND you

> > > > > are regarded within the highest levels of success in policy debate,

> > > > > politics, economics and class.

> > > > >

> > > > > But why is it when two black men win a tournament like CEDA,

> > > > > arguing for things we care about, there's a public outcry to how "wrong" it

> > > > > is?

> > > > >

> > > > > I know this hasn't been a subject of too much controversy on

> > > > > eDebate, but it has been on a lot of news sites and blogs, and I'm totally

> > > > > sick to my stomach with all the disgusting and deplorable comments made in

> > > > > Towson's direction.

> > > > >

> > > > > Have we done you wrong or something?

> > > > >

> > > > > Have we been "too black" lately?

> > > > >

> > > > > We're not assimilating fast enough for ya?

> > > > >

> > > > > All the work we do to liberate ourselves psychologically from this

> > > > > white world, of white supremacy according to your white standards, and YOUR

> > > > > the one's who are mad when WE get sick and tired of adhering to them.

> > > > >

> > > > > The part that makes it even worse is that the majority of you

> > > > > won't even recognize how fucked up it is, and I'm pissed off about it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've been quiet the past few week, but now I'm done being quiet...

> > > > >

> > > > > CAN ANY OF YOU TELL ME WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

> > > > >

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> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Adam J. Jackson

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> Adam J. Jackson

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> Public Relations Officer, Towson University Speech and Debate

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> Webmaster, Black Student Union, Towson University

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