[eDebate] A Message to the Debate Community

Greg Thomas greg.thomas at gmail.com
Mon Apr 7 15:51:46 CDT 2008



> Besides that, back to my original question...

>

> What have black people done to deserve the treatment we get in this

> activity?

>


Taking this question at face value, the easy answer is "nothing". I think
the question that need be answered is why this treatment takes place in
light of the fact nothing has been done to deserve it.

Greg Thomas
Methodist University Debate



>

>

> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Josh <jbhdb8 at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > First, I think there has been a large outpouring of support and cheers

> > even on edebate for Towson. I personally have seen about twenty letters

> > just on edebate (and personally tried to find every coach and debater and

> > offered congrats myself in email and face to face at the NDT).

> >

> > Second, I think anytime a team that hasn't cleared at most major

> > tournaments it comes as a suprise that they won a tournament. In this case

> > a happy suprise. I honestly hope that none of the "backlash" you are

> > referring to has to do with race....If you have felt that way that is really

> > too bad. If the community really was that reactionary and unaccepting how

> > could Towson have won the CEDA tournament?

> >

> > I also think given the back-to-back nature of CEDA-NDT sometimes

> > congratulations are not loud enough.

> >

> > If people have not said it enough, CONGRATS to Towson and all of their

> > coaches. As a former CEDA national champion, I am very pleased to welcome

> > Towson to the list of former champs! What you accomplished is incredible

> > and should be celebrated,

> >

> > Josh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Adam Jackson <baltimoredebate at gmail.com>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > As a sidebar from the obviously important topic discussion...

> > >

> > > I have a question for the debate community...

> > > What have black people done to deserve the treatment we get in this

> > > activity?

> > >

> > > All of you can run ANYTHING you want and people stay silent (i.e.

> > > Imperialism good, the "gangsta mentality") . At almost every tournament, the

> > > majority of the top debaters who win are white men. AND you

> > > are regarded within the highest levels of success in policy debate,

> > > politics, economics and class.

> > >

> > > But why is it when two black men win a tournament like CEDA, arguing

> > > for things we care about, there's a public outcry to how "wrong" it is?

> > >

> > > I know this hasn't been a subject of too much controversy on eDebate,

> > > but it has been on a lot of news sites and blogs, and I'm totally sick to my

> > > stomach with all the disgusting and deplorable comments made in

> > > Towson's direction.

> > >

> > > Have we done you wrong or something?

> > >

> > > Have we been "too black" lately?

> > >

> > > We're not assimilating fast enough for ya?

> > >

> > > All the work we do to liberate ourselves psychologically from this

> > > white world, of white supremacy according to your white standards, and YOUR

> > > the one's who are mad when WE get sick and tired of adhering to them.

> > >

> > > The part that makes it even worse is that the majority of you won't

> > > even recognize how fucked up it is, and I'm pissed off about it.

> > >

> > > I've been quiet the past few week, but now I'm done being quiet...

> > >

> > > CAN ANY OF YOU TELL ME WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

> > >

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> >

>

>

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