[eDebate] [CEDA-L] Accusations of Illegal Debating

[Josh]

Hello,

In no way am I taking a stance on the appropriateness of SFSU's affirmative
(have not seen/heard it).

I was at the meetings way back when the harassment policy was passed and I
seem to recal that involved the tournament director being ready and in
contact with the host schools sexual harassment officer/office in such
instances.  I cannot remember how discretionary the policy was/is but I
suspect a CEDA officer could answer this easily.  There is also supposed to
be a CEDA sexual harrassment liason as well (I seem to remember Jan Hovden
had this office at one point).

Hope all goes well,

Josh




On 11/2/07, Sherry Hall <shahall at comcast.net> wrote:

>

>  Just to play the advocate here, it is my understanding that CEDA has

> specific policies against harassment in debate rounds.  I know when we put

> an invitation out to our tournament and claim to be "CEDA-sanctioned" we are

> agreeing that those policies will be enforced at the tournament that we are

> hosting.  If people feel that your argument is in violation of those rules,

> what's wrong with asking the tournament to take action.  I must also confess

> that I am not as familiar with the CEDA rules as I am with the NDT governing

> documents, and am not sure what a host is supposed to do in response to such

> accusations.  It is also the case that probably every University in the

> United States has policies opposing harassing language on campus.  From my

> experience with various university policies that were implicated at summer

> debate camps over the years, most universities prefer that harassment issues

> be dealt with within the university before calling in law enforcement

> (unless a physical assault was involved).  Is your objection to last

> weekend's action that your arguments were characterized as "illegal"?  Would

> you really have preferred that police be called?

>

> Sherry

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Shawn T Whalen <swhalen at sfsu.edu>

> *To:* Sherry Hall <shahall at comcast.net>

> *Cc:* Shawn T Whalen <swhalen at sfsu.edu> ; NEIL BERCH <berchnorto at msn.com>;

> eDebate at ndtceda.com ; ceda-l at ndtceda.com

> *Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:45 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [CEDA-L] [eDebate] Accusations of Illegal Debating

>

>

>  Hi Sherry,

>

> I really don't think its necessary - my point is that if someone thinks

> that the law has been violated and wants it enforced, they should call a cop

> and/or an attorney.  The debate tournament is not equiped to deal with those

> claims.

>

> That being said,  our debaters critique the heteronormativity in

> traditional international relations scholarship and in traditional academic

> debating.  They suggest that the results of heteronormativity have resulted

> in the structuring of terrorism and queerness in similar ways.  They attempt

> to "interrupt these discourses, informed by queer pedagogy, by performing a

> narrative which involves explicit language and some abbreviated, fully

> clothed similated sex acts.  The accusation was that our performance was

> sexual harassment.

>

> Shawn

>

>

> Shawn--

>  I have to agree with Neil.  There is no way for anyone to add

> constructive comments or opinions about this issue when they have no idea

> what you are talking about.  Whether you want to debate the merits of the

> claim or not, some brief explanation of what the issues are -- what is your

> argument?  what is the nature of the accusation of illegality?  -- is

> necessary.  Surely, if someone threatens to kill someone else in a debate

> round, that is not protected speech just because it occurred in the setting

> of a debate round.

>  Sherry

> =

>

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