[eDebate] [forensic] policy: JULY 10 TOPIC VOTE

[Jeffrey Jarman]

Jim is correct:  the simple name I gave res 3 includes AID, but that  
isn't the topic.
I will get that fixed (later today).
In case anyone based their vote on my generic name, rather than the  
actual wording of the resolutions, please send me a new ballot, and i  
will throw out your first vote.

Jeff


On Jun 28, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Jim Hanson wrote:


> oops. this was supposed to go to our team's listserv. :)

>

> although I guess people should know that unless I'm wrong, the  

> ballot does

> currently mischaracterize resolution 3 as including aid when it  

> doesn't.

>

> jim :)

> hansonjb at whitman.edu

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Jim Hanson" <hansonjb at whitman.edu>

> To: <edebate at ndtceda.com>

> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:38 AM

> Subject: Re: [eDebate] [forensic] policy: JULY 10 TOPIC VOTE

>

> ross is right. the list I sent you was the one I saw on the ceda  

> topic blog

> and it had 3 and 4 reversed and now that I am looking at the actual  

> ballot

> on the ceda page, it is also messed up (it mischaracterizes  

> resolution 3).

>

> I'm going to email jeff jarman, ceda exec secretary, to get this  

> clarified.

> I will send everyone a new ballot for ya'll to send votes to me.

>

> thanks for noticing that ross.

>

> jim :)

> hansonjb at whitman.edu

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Ross Richendrfer" <richenrc at whitman.edu>

> To: "Jim Hanson" <hansonjb at whitman.edu>

> Cc: <forensic at whitman.edu>

> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:31 AM

> Subject: Re: [forensic] policy: JULY 10 TOPIC VOTE

>

> Jim-

>

> I think there's a chance that we have the wrong #'s for our list of

> resolutions. On the original list of resolutions Jim sent out, the

> resolution that I believe Thad has supported was refered to as #4 (the

> one without "foreign assistance"), but I think that if our list is in

> fact wrong, Thad actually means #3. The other alternative is that the

> CEDA topic blog is wrong, in which case someone needs to be  

> alterted to

> that too.

>

> Here are the resolutions according to the CEDA topic blog:

>

> #1

> Resolved: that the United States Federal Government should increase  

> its

> constructive engagement with the government of one or more of:

> Afghanistan, Iran, Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority, and Syria, and

> it should include offering them a security guarantee(s) and/or a

> substantial increase in foreign assistance.

>

> #2

> Resolved: that the United States Federal Government should increase  

> its

> constructive engagement with the government of one or more of:

> Afghanistan, Iran, Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority, and Syria, and

> it should consist only of offering them a trilateral security

> guarantee(s) with Israel, and/or a bilateral security guarantee(s),

> and/or a substantial increase in foreign assistance.

>

> #3 - Thad's Resolution (I think)

> Resolved: that the United States Federal Government should increase  

> its

> constructive engagement with the government of one or more of:

> Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority, Saudi

> Arabia, and Syria, and it should consist only of offering them a

> trilateral security guarantee(s) with Israel and/or a bilateral

> security guarantee(s).

>

> #4

> Resolved: that the United States Federal Government should increase  

> its

> constructive engagement with the government of one or more of:

> Afghanistan, Iran, Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority, and Syria, and

> it should include offering them a trilateral security guarantee(s)  

> with

> Israel, and/or a bilateral security guarantee(s), and/or a substantial

> increase in foreign assistance.

>

> Here's where I'm getting this....http://blog.cedatopic.com/

>

> I don't know if there are two lists for some reason and the one I'm

> posting isn't official, but Jim, you should definitely check into it.

> I'd hate for us to vote for the wrong topic on accident.

>

> Sorry if this ends up confusing things and/or wasting anyone's time.

>

> In case anyone is confused, Jim's original list is below.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Ross

>

>

> Quoting Jim Hanson <hansonjb at whitman.edu>:

>

>>

>>

>> policy: anyone debating or coaching next year for the team may vote.

>>

>> I encourage discussion on which of these resolutions you think is

>> good/not so good.

>>

>> to vote MAKE SURE YOU SUBMIT YOUR VOTE TO ME LIKE THIS:

>>

>> put your ranking (1 for best, 2 for second best, 3 for third best, 4

>> for last) TO THE left of the working resolution number.

>>

>> DO NOT REARRANGE THE RESOLUTIONS.

>>

>> if you do your ballot incorrectly, sorry, I won't count it.

>>

>> EMAIL YOUR BALLOT TO ME BY TUESDAY, JULY 10.

>>

>> Resolution #1

>> Resolved: that the United States Federal Government should increase

>> its constructive engagement with the government of one or more of:

>> Afghanistan, Iran, Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority, and Syria, and

>> it should include offering them a security guarantee(s) and/or a

>> substantial increase in foreign assistance.

>>

>> Resolution #2

>> Resolved: that the United States Federal Government should increase

>> its constructive engagement with the government of one or more of:

>> Afghanistan, Iran, Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority, and Syria, and

>> it should include offering them a trilateral security guarantee(s)

>> with Israel, and/or a bilateral security guarantee(s), and/or a

>> substantial increase in foreign assistance.

>>

>> Resolution #3

>> Resolved: that the United States Federal Government should increase

>> its constructive engagement with the government of one or more of:

>> Afghanistan, Iran, Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority, and Syria, and

>> it should consist only of offering them a trilateral security

>> guarantee(s) with Israel, and/or a bilateral security guarantee(s),

>> and/or a substantial increase in foreign assistance.

>>

>> Resolution #4

>> Resolved: that the United States Federal Government should increase

>> its constructive engagement with the government of one or more of:

>> Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority, Saudi

>> Arabia, and Syria, and it should consist only of offering them a

>> trilateral security guarantee(s) with Israel and/or a bilateral

>> security guarantee(s).

>>

>> jim :)

>> hansonjb at whitman.edu

>>

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