[eDebate] Does a CEDA Debate Calender really exist?

Joe Patrice joepatrice at gmail.com
Wed Aug 29 10:39:03 CDT 2007


Wow, I envy those who can get hotel contracts with less than 6 months lead.
But seriously, if you're having significant problems with classrooms, number
of rounds and hotels then you're not even in a position to announce dates
either (when I was in that boat the date was not set until the rooms were).
I explained that exceptions should be made for programs in that boat.

But I think Scott is right about this -- if you're having a tournament in
the Fall you can get this together. At the very least you can set up your
tournament on the website and edit it with further details.

Joe


On 8/29/07, NEIL BERCH <berchnorto at msn.com> wrote:

>

> Joe--An invite is less important, I think, than an announcement of dates,

> number of rounds and divisions, rough schedule. Many folks delay the

> invite

> due to either issues related to classrooms or, more often, hotel

> contracts.

> The frustrating part to me is trying to find out dates for regular

> tournaments that are run every year and getting no response.--Neil

>

> --Neil Berch

> West Virginia University

>

>

> >From: "Joe Patrice" <joepatrice at gmail.com>

> >To: edebate at www.ndtceda.com

> >Subject: [eDebate] Does a CEDA Debate Calender really exist?

> >Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:14:04 -0400

> >

> >While I think the Bruschke site is completely intuitive, there should be

> a

> >link to it from the CEDA website. The website is new and there are links

> >that have been lost in translation and that is an important one.

> >

> >Speaking of the Bruschke site, while not officially a "calendar" it is

> the

> >repository of the invites that have been put out so far (I count 18 in

> the

> >Fall) and the "calendar" that the community uses. Scott's indict of the

> >lack of some alternative calendar is confusing -- even if it were a list

> on

> >a website I'm kind of confused how anyone would know to put a tournament

> on

> >a calendar before it puts out an invite.

> >

> >But here Scott raises an excellent point that directors need to start

> >putting out their invites. The activity has grown a too insular and we

> all

> >just "know" when certain tournaments are and what they will use for a

> hotel

> >long before anything is announced. This insular mindset is one of the

> many

> >obstacles that a new program faces that we need to combat. In the old

> days

> >that Scott references there were no deadlines for tournament

> >sanctioning...people just got their stuff announced in a timely manner

> and

> >the community has slipped.

> >

> >While I'm not certain about the dates proposed in his post, I am mulling

> >over an amendment setting a deadline for tournaments to put out their

> >invite

> >to be sanctioned to encourage timely announcements. That said, I may put

> >in

> >an exemption for new and emerging programs who may not have the

> >institutional support to know if their tournament will fly until later in

> >the year. I also worry about the insitutional hurdles of some

> established

> >programs -- I know I once worked at a school that wouldn't allow me to

> book

> >rooms on campus for the Fall semester until after Labor Day...so

> >guaranteeing a November tournament was impossible until then. Some

> >provision would have to be made for that situation too.

> >

> >Joe

>

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