[eDebate] fyi: policy debate in the press

matt stannard stannardmatt at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 3 03:28:10 EST 2006


I agree. In fact, the fact that Rove was the intro (and the anecdotes were
hardly original) made it a particularly bad piece. The author seemed not to
want to be writing it after a while too. We can certainly do better--I'd
love to be part of some organic debate press if anyone else is interested.

mjs



>From: "Andy Ellis" <andy.edebate at gmail.com>

>To: "pete bsumek" <bsumekpk at jmu.edu>

>CC: edebate at ndtceda.com

>Subject: Re: [eDebate] fyi: policy debate in the press

>Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:15:14 -0500

>

>This story is not so good. I mean it is for edgemont, but common mother

>jones you can do better than this...and how come mother jones a publication

>known for its connection to progressive struggles so focused on style and

>sub culture and so dismissive of all politics. And how come they are

>sooooooo excited about the fromer debaters thats have contributed to the

>powers they (often) work against. I wish i could say it was atypical, but

>its like every debate story ever written...you know what i would like to

>see

>is a debate story where the non counter cultural referents(brad pitt,

>oprah,

>ted turner, congress, potus) are a) people of color (i know oprah is

>black) and b) contributing to progressive betterment of peoples lives using

>the political and advocacy skills they learned in debate. But its always

>this president or this corporate executive or this lawyer or f'in Karl

>Rove...So lets do the mother jones piece better than they and perhaps

>generate that list of progressive social actors who have come from amongst

>our ranks...the challenge of course will be naming the ones who have not

>done so through a) supreme court law or b) mainstream political

>action.Imnot saying state bad judge, you shouldn't work through it or

>the law

>either...lets name those people as well, but can we counter karl rove with

>a progressive or radical example?




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