[eDebate] Geez - We have no method......

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I think this explains how the cattle is herded, but what are the pillars of pedigogy utilized to create a topic 
wording.

I gave examples of important issues that should be discussed before solvency advocates are chased down 
and filed together.

I do not doubt how the process you describes works, nor do I doubt that everyone works very hard towards a 
common goal of creating a topic.

If you want to say nothing "shady" happens in this community dealing with rules, what the topic areas are and 
other issues, then you are really just kissing some a$$ right now.

So your post was nice, nor do I doubt what you say, but there is step one and two and you explained steps 3 
and 4.  I dont doubt the role you played nor anyone who shows up.

Yes I am coming for sure, I have no doubts about this.  Which was my position last year, that if you dont show 
up, and dont have a tight network with someone there, then your SOL  (which you agreed with).

See you in KC

Jackie



> 

> Maybe this isn't it.. but I have this to say.

> 

> I was at the topic committee meeting... seems to me pretty simple, 

> they talk 

> about ideas, we have framing discussions, had wording discussions, 

> etc.  

> Paul Mose and Joelle Japser were there too... and I got assigned 

> one night 

> to make sure the co-op topic, at least in the space cooperation 

> section was 

> worded correctly.  If my freshman can get input... so can anyone.

> 

> I think I was assigned to talk about exploration the next day... we 

> had 

> meetings, folks there got research assignments to check cases, 

> etc... and 

> solvency articles... and we crafted.

> 

> There was nothing backchannel or shady about it Jackie, you just 

> had to show 

> up.  In the case of JT you just had to be online to get IMs or 

> emails from 

> me about how you thought the wording should go.

> 

> Even undergrads got assignments... people had opinions, but by and 

> large the 

> process was open and as far as crafting resolutions go.. I felt I 

> got 

> everything in I wanted to say.  We got the co-op resolution we 

> wanted people 

> to look at and vote on.

> 

> It didn't win, but I felt I crafted or helped craft a China 

> resolution, so I 

> can die happy now.

> 

> NO ONE on the commitee pretended to be an expert, and Eric Suni was 

> probably 

> quickest on the box to get info.  Hell even Ede was talking about 

> solvency 

> advocates, etc...ground.  I found it one of the most DEMYSTIFYING 

> processes 

> I've ever seen.  Everyone at home I communicated with got input.

> 

> Yeah its hard to get to Kansas City, but if you want to shape the 

> topic, its 

> worth the trip.  Hell I'm leaving for law school and I'm trying to 

> get to 

> the topic meeting just because the process itself was pretty damned 

> cool and 

> open.

> 

> I love ya Jackie, but dude... go to KC and see it firsthand.  It's 

> not all 

> that damned elitist, its pretty populist.  Ross Smith makes good 

> jokes too.  

> Everyone gets input... but you know decisions are made.

> 

> Ken D.

> 

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