From joe.bellon at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 07:49:06 2009 From: joe.bellon at gmail.com (Joe Bellon) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:49:06 -0400 Subject: [CEDA-L] GSU Tournament -- small but important changes Message-ID: Just to let you know, we have updated the tournament invitation ( http://www.gsudebate.org/events_at_gsu/gsu_national_college_debate.html) to indicate the following minor but important changes: 1) We are officially using ordinal preferences 2) Awards will be held after prelim round 7. Doubles will begin at 8 pm on Sunday evening. 3) Octos now start at 8:30 am on Monday to compensate for the late night many of us will have on Sunday. We look forward to seeing you all in Atlanta. Dr. Joe Bellon Director of Debate Georgia State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From Zompetti at aol.com Wed Sep 2 16:31:25 2009 From: Zompetti at aol.com (Zompetti at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:31:25 EDT Subject: [CEDA-L] Argument conference in London! Message-ID: IDEA Exchange 2009 This year?s Exchange will be held on December 12-13th at Goldsmiths University in London, with IDEA?s General Assembly preceding it on December 11th. This event invites university students and professors, debate activists, youth workers, and educators who work with debate. Hosted by IDEA, Goldsmiths University, and Debatewise, this annual event allows participants to exchange ideas and experiences, and work together in developing and learning about projects. This year, the Exchange is also counting towards the European Year of Creativity and Innovation (2009), which is raising awareness of the importance of creativity and innovation for personal, social and economic development. Specifically, the Exchange itself is focusing on how new media can promote debate and dialogue, participation and social change. We encourage teachers and educators interested in new media, young promoters of online debates and communication, social entrepreneurs and activists, bloggers, journalists, video makers and website developers to apply. To explore this topic, participants will gather to share and learn through discussions, demonstrations, and interaction with one another. Participants are encouraged to bring a presentation or workshop that will further the exploration of new media. This may include making individual or team presentations, organizing and participating in a panel discussion, showcasing a lesson, or offering workshop training. The deadline for presentation/workshop proposals and registration is October 1st. For more information about this event, please visit the website, at _http://workserver.idebate.org/exchange_ (http://workserver.idebate.org/exchange) . Joseph Zompetti Associate Professor School of Communication Illinois State University Campus Box 4480 Normal, IL 61790-4480 (309) 438-3277 zompetti at aol.com jpzompe at ilstu.edu Everything you can imagine is real. --Pablo Picasso -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/ceda-l/attachments/20090902/3d7d697e/attachment.htm From hallsherry2 at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 12:56:26 2009 From: hallsherry2 at gmail.com (Sherry Hall) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 13:56:26 -0400 Subject: [CEDA-L] Harvard Tournament Entry Update Message-ID: <22f9d1610909061056i1b7e88b7q91605ba03ed0e64e@mail.gmail.com> The tournament has now officially met the limit we set of 80 teams. Last year, we ended up with enough classrooms to accommodate 92 teams. Classes just started so it will still be a while before we get a final room list to determine how many more teams we can take this year. To enable us to accommodate as many teams as possible, we request that if you have entered a team without names --one just holding a spot-- please enter an actual team or drop them. In a couple of days, I will eliminate those that aren't actual teams so that other schools on the wait list can get in. If you are planning on coming to the tournament and have not yet entered, please do so soon so that we can determine exactly how many rooms we need, and start managing the wait list. Finally, please make drops as soon as you know that you will be dropping a team. Teams on the waitlist need to make travel arrangements necessitating adequate notice. We appreciate everyone's cooperation. We have managed to accommodate everyone who wanted to come the last two years, and I hopeful that we will be able to do that again this year. Sherry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/ceda-l/attachments/20090906/4de47285/attachment.htm From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Wed Sep 9 16:01:14 2009 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:01:14 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] New debateresults functions for 2009-10 Message-ID: <5BF5A4C14E714000B4B668945E82B9F2@AD.FULLERTON.EDU> Hello all, The new season is starting, and there are some cool new debateresults things I wanted to give you a heads-up about, and also encourage you to take care of some of the normal start-of-the-year stuff. You might want to print this email and distribute it to your squad. Most of all, please TAKE A MOMENT NOW to do normal beginning of the year maintenance. Go to the "enter, edit, and remove names" link in the top-left box. Mark as inactive any students who won't be competing this year (due to graduation, etc.). Mark as unaffiliated any judges who are no longer associated with your school. Click the "edit your account" button to change the email for yourself or any of the primary contacts. Here are the cool new things that are happening: First, the CAT, a piece of software designed as the next generation of STA and TRPC, is now on the website along with a manual and instructional videos. If you're hosting a tournament, expect more information on that soon. Second, the CAT allows some cool new things, like emailed pairings personalized to the school, on-line ballot entry and ballot comments, real-time results, sortable on-line pairings, and the like. They are described below. Third, you can manage your squad email and cell phone contact info through the website, and I strongly encourage you to do so. This will (a) allow you to email your squad and district, (b) allow tournaments to email your squad (not just you) pairings, and (c) allow tournaments to have judge contact information on-line, so they don't have to collect it at registration. This should speed up tournaments for everyone because it will reduce those rounds where the last ballot out has walked away and nobody can find the judge. These are the new features that will be accessible for any tournament that runs on the CAT: To access the email functions: Click the "Manage/Send email" link in the top-left box. There are some instructions you'll need to get things set up. When the emails are entered your squad is set up to receive emailed pairings. To view sortable pairings or real-time results: Click on the college policy calendar, and then the "pairings" or "real-time" link. To enter cites for a round you scouted or judged, load the on-line pairings and click the "enter cites" button. This scouting information will be available to everyone. To view the cites others have entered: click the "view citations" in the lower-right. To view comments judges have entered with their on-line ballots: Click the "View Judge ballot comments" in the lower-right. Only someone logged in with your school's password can view the comments. Let me know if you see glitches, and thanks to all for the use of the page! From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Fri Sep 11 19:46:20 2009 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:46:20 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] Tournament invitation hosted by CSU Northridge Message-ID: Name:The CSUN-Robert Barbera Invitational Starts:11/20/2009 Ends:11/22/2009 Hosted by: CSU Northridge Contact: John Kephart Address: 18111 Nordhoff St. Northridge, CA 91330-8257 Phone: 818-677-3043 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True Divisions Offered: Open Policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos JV Policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters Novice Policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Not specified Open Parlimentary with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Not specified Novice Parlimentary with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Not specified Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email. From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Fri Sep 11 19:46:40 2009 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:46:40 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] Tournament invitation hosted by CSU Northridge Message-ID: <7A26F14804F44817BBDE936485B67634@AD.FULLERTON.EDU> Name:The CSUN-Robert Barbera Invitational Starts:11/20/2009 Ends:11/22/2009 Hosted by: CSU Northridge Contact: John Kephart Address: 18111 Nordhoff St. Northridge, CA 91330-8257 Phone: 818-677-3043 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True Divisions Offered: Open Policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos JV Policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters Novice Policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Not specified Open Parlimentary with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Not specified Novice Parlimentary with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Not specified Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email. From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Sat Sep 12 15:14:58 2009 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:14:58 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] Tournament invitation hosted by California Message-ID: Name:Cal Swing #1 Starts:1/3/2010 Ends:1/5/2010 Hosted by: California Contact: Greg Achten Address: Phone: 510-684-8120 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True Divisions Offered: OPen with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Doubles JV with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters Novice with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Semis Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email. From joe.bellon at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 12:34:12 2009 From: joe.bellon at gmail.com (Joe Bellon) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:34:12 -0400 Subject: [CEDA-L] GSU Reminders Message-ID: 1) Fill out your food information, ESPECIALLY the number of vegetarians and vegans. 2) Make sure your judging entry is complete on debateresults.com, as we will be shutting off changes tomorrow. 3) If you are hiring someone to do some or all of your judging, please make sure we know by e-mailing me at joe.bellon at gmail.com. 4) WE ARE WILLING TO BUY EXTRA ROUNDS if you are willing to be hired for more debates. Please indicate that by filling out your judging commitment appropriately on debateresults.com or by emailing me at joe.bellon at gmail.com . 5) Remember to SEND YOUR AFF CASELIST INFORMATION to us at gsucaselist at gmail.com. Dr. Joe Bellon Director of Debate Georgia State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From stefan.bauschard at gmail.com Tue Sep 15 17:19:07 2009 From: stefan.bauschard at gmail.com (Stefan Bauschard) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:19:07 -0400 Subject: [CEDA-L] Fwd: FW: Resources for 2009-2010 College Debate on Nuclear Weapons In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <524839830909151519t27635112p929c0064150efb52@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone, Travis Sharp @ the Nukes of Hazard blog put some resources on the topic together and asked me to forward them to the college debate listservs. Stefan (cc Katie), I hope all is well. Following up on our email correspondence regarding the 2009-2010 debate on nuclear weapons, I wanted to let you know that today we posted a debate resource guide to background materials, publications, and relevant organizations ( http://www.armscontrolcenter.org/policy/nuclearweapons/articles/college_debate_09-10/ ) Included is information on START; force posture; CTBT; cost; blast effects; Iran; missile defense; NPT; North Korea; public opinion; scientific and technical skills; stockpiles; U.S. policy; a world free of nuclear weapons; and more. I?d like to disseminate the guide as widely as possible. Would you be willing to post it on Planet Debate? Are there any listservs I can send it to? Any help you can provide would be most appreciated. I have cc?d our external relations director, Katie Mounts, who is in charge of all our outreach initiatives. Thanks, Stefan! Travis *---* *Travis Sharp* Communications Director & Military Policy Analyst Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation Council for a Livable World Phone: 202-543-4100 ext. 2105 Email: tsharp at armscontrolcenter.org Web: www.armscontrolcenter.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/ceda-l/attachments/20090915/ca7cab16/attachment.htm From davismk13 at gmail.com Wed Sep 16 10:42:50 2009 From: davismk13 at gmail.com (Mike Davis) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:42:50 -0400 Subject: [CEDA-L] GSU entries and judging Message-ID: <9a7f6f740909160842g446af9a7mc8c1ad35e7031d04@mail.gmail.com> I will be closing GSU entries at 2:00 today. A few things: 1. Please make any changes by then. This includes filling out your judging requirements and filling in missing debater names. 2. If you have any changes after that please e-mail me directly. 3. IMPORTANT: please enter judge philosophies for all judges. I am going to open up the ordinal rankings tonight and it would really help if everyone could do their rankings in the near future. We are missing philosophies from the following 22 judges: Binder - FSU The Chungs - Wake and Mo. St. Duffy - Mi. St Gajora - Wake Gonzalez - Wake Hammond - Mi. St. Hart - Georgia Hodder - USF Jardina - Wake Jarvis - GSU Johnson, A. - USF Jordan, S. - Emory Kim - Harvard Lamballe - Wake Lemuel - GSU Pasquinelli - Wake Sandoz - Vandy Rhode - Wake Scwab - Emory Webb - Mo. St. Weston - Florida Wake is way in the lead with 7, five way tie for second with 2 -- Dr. Michael Davis Director of Debate/Assistant Professor James Madison University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/ceda-l/attachments/20090916/d17460c6/attachment.htm From davismk13 at gmail.com Wed Sep 16 12:59:52 2009 From: davismk13 at gmail.com (Mike Davis) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:59:52 -0400 Subject: [CEDA-L] Non-debate related teaching position at JMU Message-ID: <9a7f6f740909161059v1d598ccbi6e822630c1227ef4@mail.gmail.com> Announcement below. Not debate-related, but we would love to have you. Former debaters have had a great deal of success when interviewing for these positions. If you have any questions let me know. Mike JAMES MADISON UNIVERSITY ANNOUNCES ONE OR MORE 3 YEAR RTA FACULTY POSITIONS The School of Communication Studies at James Madison University invites applications for one or more 3-year RTA (Revolving Term Appointment) lecturer positions. The position involves teaching and service responsibilities with a course load of 4 courses per semester. The teaching responsibilities exist in the Fundamental Human Communication courses in the General Education Program, with some teaching in an area of specialty. Master?s degree in communication is required at the time of appointment. Experience preferred. Review of applications will begin on October 15, 2009 and continue until the position is filled. Candidates are urged to submit completed applications prior to NCA, as informational interviews will be conducted at the NCA job fair. Applicants should initiate the application process by accessing http://www.jmu.edu/humanresources/emp/joblink.shtml where they should upload a letter of application and curriculum vitae. In addition, applicants should mail official transcripts and evidence of teaching excellence, and make arrangements to have three original letters of reference sent to Ken Young, RTA Search Committee Chair, School of Communication Studies, MSC 2106, James Madison University, Harrisonburg, VA, 22807 James Madison University is a rapidly growing university of approximately 17,000 students. JMU has been ranked as the South?s top public, master?s-level university for the 15th consecutive year, according to the annual "U.S. News & World Report" 2009 America's Best Colleges guide. JMU has earned national recognition for its outstanding first-year experiences, learning communities and service-learning. The School of Communication Studies is located in new facilities and has the potential to offer a graduate program and become part of a College of Communication, Information, and Media in the near future. The School is comprised of faculty who present a diverse range of communication training and research. Undergraduate majors leave with strong research and writing skills, practical internship experiences, and a cultivated appreciation of human communication. JMU is located in Harrisonburg, VA, a Main Street community of about 41,000, in the beautiful Shenandoah Valley. It is approximately 1 hour from historic Charlottesville, 2 ? hours from Washington, D.C. and Richmond, and 3 ? hours from the Chesapeake Bay. More information can be found at www.jmu.edu, www.jmu.edu/commstudies, and http://www.harrisonburgva.gov. JMU is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity, Equal Access employer. We seek candidates who will contribute to the climate and body of diversity in the School and the development of a College of Communication, Information, and Media. 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/ceda-l/attachments/20090916/64f8de54/attachment.htm From joe.bellon at gmail.com Thu Sep 17 08:54:06 2009 From: joe.bellon at gmail.com (Joe Bellon) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:54:06 -0400 Subject: [CEDA-L] GSU Registration Location Message-ID: Registration will start at 6 pm in room 1204 of the Marriott. Dr. Joe Bellon Director of Debate Georgia State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/ceda-l/attachments/20090917/aab6859f/attachment.htm From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Thu Sep 17 21:15:58 2009 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:15:58 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] Tournament invitation hosted by North Texas (Univ.) Message-ID: <00290F7883D84B6A971EB96195107C6A@AD.FULLERTON.EDU> Name:William DeMougeot Debates at UNT Starts:1/4/2010 Ends:1/7/2010 Hosted by: North Texas (Univ.) Contact: Brian Lain Address: 1155 Union Circle, Box 305268, Denton, TX, 76203 Phone: 940-565-4534 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True Divisions Offered: Open with 7 prelims, expected to clear to: Doubles JV with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters Novice with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Semis Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email. From delliott at KCKCC.EDU Thu Sep 17 22:03:49 2009 From: delliott at KCKCC.EDU (Darren Elliott) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:03:49 -0500 Subject: [CEDA-L] [eDebate] Sick Debaters, Travel, and Bid Applications In-Reply-To: <4AB2F001.4060301@wfu.edu> References: , <4AB2F001.4060301@wfu.edu> Message-ID: Don't risk a Forced Choice by Administrators of Non-Competition for others and yourself down the road. This issue is larger than you might think. I sat in on a legislative session this week where illness and N1H1 was a hot topic. University AD's and Officials are contacting each other (and being directed to) and putting in place contingency plans should an outbreak occur. The contingency plan in KS would appear to be to cancel games, tournaments, and events to prevent outbreaks. I'm sure KS is not the only State, and the MIAA, NAIA, and NCAA Big 12 are not the only conferences with this in mind. No doubt this will trickle down to non-athletic events if Colleges and Universities shut their doors to prevent the sickness from getting out. Not to sound alarm bells, but its high on the priority list of those making decisions above all of us. Dont risk not only the health of yourself and others, but entire tournaments being shut down. I think Sarah put it best, we should be more kind to ourselves and those around us than we have been in the past. chief Darren Elliott Director of Debate and Forensics Kansas City Kansas Community College ________________________________________ From: edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com [edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com] On Behalf Of JP Lacy [lacyjp at wfu.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:27 PM To: Galloway, Ryan W. Cc: edebate at ndtceda.com Subject: Re: [eDebate] Sick Debaters, Travel, and Bid Applications Wake misses competing at our tournament every year. So does every other squad that hosts a "major" national tournament. It is hard for debaters to give up an opportunity to compete. Many would give an organ to clear at a tournament. We need to get better at showing people that debate isn't worth hurting themselves or others over. I agree with Ryan that we should "cut people some slack" if they miss a tournament due to illness, injury or other contingencies. After all, hosting schools get that "slack" every year. -- JP Galloway, Ryan W. wrote: > I think Sam and Sue raise a good point. I would like to point out the counter-vailing tendency among debaters however, especially those that might be in contention for a 1st/2nd round bid. > > When I debated, I debated at the Redlands tournament my senior year when I was extremely ill. I could barely navigate a flight of stairs. I could not physically lift a tub (Gordon carried them all, and I forgot my promise that I would carry them at the next tournament). Frankly, I was miserable the whole weekend and likely a severe infestation risk. > > When confronted about this question "why are you debating?" by Sherry Hall and Rebecca Tushnet, I remember weakly replying "that our bid was not high enough." A rationale that made sense at age 20, an insane rationale at age 36. > > I think debaters, coaches, and rankers of bids should be especially cognizant of the way certain tournaments are viewed on the bid sheets. I would encourage all to take a reasonable perspective of the situation, especially if estimates (like the one given at our university) that 30% of the population could get the swine flu this season. Let's cut some people some slack if they don't have Kentucky or another tournament on their bid sheet that is a "must attend" tournament for a bid sheet. > > Take care of your health. Be reasonable about the situation. It's a debate tournament, you'll have more down the road. > > RG > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > > > _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate From stables at usc.edu Fri Sep 18 02:01:37 2009 From: stables at usc.edu (Gordon Stables) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:01:37 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] Kicking off the 2009-10 Season Message-ID: <39c1ac890909180001h49f8f7b6l5fe997a5ab5d732d@mail.gmail.com> Although many of us opened the season at Gonzaga last weekend, for a number of schools this coming weekend is their opening competition. This has been a difficult year for many in our community. The new season brings sadness with those no longer with us, but it also provides a new start. On behalf of CEDA let me wish you all the best for a great season. We are excited to have such a timely topic and one that promises to make for a compelling year of debates. I also wanted to highlight a few items. First, the CEDA website has updated a number of items, including our new officers and regions. Remember that several regions (in the Southeast and west) were restructured last spring. A full list of your regional and national officers is available at http://cedadebate.org/officers Second, we are all looking forward to another great season. If, however, we fail as professionals to live up to our responsibilities there is a new provision to resolve such issues. In accordance with the recently amended CEDA constitution, a Professional Review Board has been created to address allegations of unprofessional conduct. The constitution outlines their procedures. Any member of the college debate community may initiate the process by contacting the committee directly. The constitution specifies procedures for their review and includes important important about the confidentiality of the process. The current Board is: Ed Panetta, University of Georgia (Chair) Sue Peterson, CSU Chico and Brian Lain, University of North Texas. We appreciate all of their service to the community. Third, as a number of folks have posted about in the last few days, there are concerns about this flu season. We all share in the interests of keep our community healthy and we are asking all members to take a few steps. - Please review your university policies, especially with regard to when students can and should travel and your responsibilities to these and all of your students. These policies will help explain how to exercise the due caution that is in all of our interests. - Please share updated information about best practices. As Lexy noted, there may be a variety of unintended travel issues that arise this year and we can all learn from each other. - Please contact your regional and national officers if your university imposes restrictions on your ability to travel. While not likely, we have to be aware of the possibility that our traditional schedule of tournaments may be disrupted. Each university and team will have to make their own decisions, but we can help address situations where the needs of our member schools intersect. Finally, and in happier news, I would encourage everyone to keep the spirit of education and professional development that was present during the Debate 'Summit' in Winston Salem this summer. It was a tremendous gathering of individuals assembled to analyze the best way for our activity to move forward. In coming weeks will see the product of that labor in the form of an edited volume (thanks to Alan Louden). We can also support this effort by innovating and sharing those exciting ideas. If there was ever any doubt, this summer reinforced that we have a lot of great work going on outside our traditional competition space - please share those accomplishments. Travel safe, take care of each other and do your part to stay healthy. We are looking forward to seeing you all this year as we work toward our fantastic conclusion with the joint NDT-CEDA Nationals at Cal Berkeley. Gordon CEDA President and Chair - Topic Selection Committee Gordon Stables, Ph.D. Director of Debate & Forensics Annenberg School for Communication University of Southern California Office: 213 740 2759 Fax: 213 740 3913 www.usctrojandebate.com From lacyjp at wfu.edu Fri Sep 18 03:18:57 2009 From: lacyjp at wfu.edu (JP Lacy) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:18:57 -0400 Subject: [CEDA-L] Graduate School Opportunities at Wake Message-ID: <4AB34271.3010001@wfu.edu> Since this is going to CEDA-L, please let your debaters know about the opportunity, especially your seniors! We do make recruiting under-represented groups a high priority. Style is a non-issue. Commitment to the game is. We aren't necessarily looking for people who are amazing at debate right now. Anyone who finds the idea of coaching debate attractive is a candidate. Our ranks (That is, us current debate coaches) are full of people who were bad at debating, but turn out to be fantastic coaches. (I was never very good as a debater, and I hear Repko was awful. God knows Ross was carried by his partner.) Wake is a great opportunity for people like us. Interested in Graduate School? Want to coach debate? Wake wants you! Wake has a very good Communication Graduate School program. Plus, we have a record of graduating great debate coaches. The number of amazing people who got better at debate coaching here is huge. Jarrod Atchison likes to call Wake the "Harvard Business School" of debate coaches. Helping people become better coaches is & will continue to be one of our squad's highest priorities. If you are interested, talk to me. Or, email me. We are always looking for good people. I'll be at GSU, Kentucky, Harvard, Wake & most of the local tournaments Wake usually attends. If you don't like me, then shoot Al Louden, our long time Director of Debate, now Director of Graduate Studies in Communication an email: louden at wfu.edu. Any of our students or coaching staff are more than willing to discuss our graduate program as well. -- JP Lacy lacyjp at wfu.edu From hallsherry2 at gmail.com Fri Sep 18 07:17:25 2009 From: hallsherry2 at gmail.com (Sherry Hall) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:17:25 -0400 Subject: [CEDA-L] NDT Subscriptions Message-ID: <22f9d1610909180517u4e4cea2ahcba01399bff4a3a9@mail.gmail.com> Greetings All! As I get ready to return to debate travel, it is once again time to remind everyone about subscribing to the NDT. I am including a list of the schools from whom I have received a subscription payment for the 2009-2010 season. I will be updating this information on the Bruschke site this weekend. Please keep in mind that if you paid your subscription directly to Jim Pratt at the AFA or over the AFA site after September 1, 2009, I do not yet have that information. You can send me an electronic receipt if you paid on the site. The dues are $50.00. After November 1, it doubles to $100.00. 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/ceda-l/attachments/20090920/441120b9/attachment.htm From dave at miami.edu Sun Sep 20 06:37:36 2009 From: dave at miami.edu (Steinberg, David L) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 07:37:36 -0400 Subject: [CEDA-L] [eDebate] Sick Debaters, Travel, and Bid Applications In-Reply-To: References: , <4AB2F001.4060301@wfu.edu>, Message-ID: a rant! I am sitting in a classroom at Georgia State University at 7:15 am, my head pounding. We left the hotel at 6:30. Yesterday we began a little later, leaving at 7:00. Cruel trick to start the second day earlier than the first. And we live in this time zone. For west coast people, it is 4:00 am. I sacrificed my typical oatmeal and fruit breakfast for more sleep, a sugary donut instead. After a long day with short breaks filled with round preparation (shoveled in some fast food during the 45 minutes we had for lunch) we completed our day and left the tournament around 8:45 pm, excellent by debate standards. Selfishly, I took the team for a sit down meal, and then foolessly indulged in watching some of the Auburn football game on TV. Self-indulgent, but it was Saturday night! A mistake. One beer with dinner. I feel like I have smoked a carton of cigarettes (and I quit 12 years ago). Another donut. Sleep deprivation, poor food, cigarette smoke, no exercise. OK, the high levels of mental/psychological stress reasonably go with the territory, but the physical stress is mostly unnecessary, its a choice we make in designing our activity. And our students need to return to class and schoolwork on Monday or Tuesday, with substantially more pressure than other students who have not missed classes or sacrificed schoolwork time for debate work. Are we concerned about the health of our participants? Surprised when our immune systems do not fight off the flu? I do not think so. David L. Steinberg Director of Debate, Lecturer in Communication Studies University of Miami PO Box 248127 Coral Gables, FL 33124 FLW 3015 305-284-5553 204-385-5216 (fax) dave at miami.edu http://debate.miami.edu/ ________________________________________ From: ceda-l-bounces at www.ndtceda.com [ceda-l-bounces at www.ndtceda.com] On Behalf Of Darren Elliott [delliott at KCKCC.EDU] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:03 PM To: JP Lacy; Galloway, Ryan W. Cc: edebate at ndtceda.com; ceda-l at ndtceda.com Subject: Re: [CEDA-L] [eDebate] Sick Debaters, Travel, and Bid Applications Don't risk a Forced Choice by Administrators of Non-Competition for others and yourself down the road. This issue is larger than you might think. I sat in on a legislative session this week where illness and N1H1 was a hot topic. University AD's and Officials are contacting each other (and being directed to) and putting in place contingency plans should an outbreak occur. The contingency plan in KS would appear to be to cancel games, tournaments, and events to prevent outbreaks. I'm sure KS is not the only State, and the MIAA, NAIA, and NCAA Big 12 are not the only conferences with this in mind. No doubt this will trickle down to non-athletic events if Colleges and Universities shut their doors to prevent the sickness from getting out. Not to sound alarm bells, but its high on the priority list of those making decisions above all of us. Dont risk not only the health of yourself and others, but entire tournaments being shut down. I think Sarah put it best, we should be more kind to ourselves and those around us than we have been in the past. chief Darren Elliott Director of Debate and Forensics Kansas City Kansas Community College ________________________________________ From: edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com [edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com] On Behalf Of JP Lacy [lacyjp at wfu.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:27 PM To: Galloway, Ryan W. Cc: edebate at ndtceda.com Subject: Re: [eDebate] Sick Debaters, Travel, and Bid Applications Wake misses competing at our tournament every year. So does every other squad that hosts a "major" national tournament. It is hard for debaters to give up an opportunity to compete. Many would give an organ to clear at a tournament. We need to get better at showing people that debate isn't worth hurting themselves or others over. I agree with Ryan that we should "cut people some slack" if they miss a tournament due to illness, injury or other contingencies. After all, hosting schools get that "slack" every year. -- JP Galloway, Ryan W. wrote: > I think Sam and Sue raise a good point. I would like to point out the counter-vailing tendency among debaters however, especially those that might be in contention for a 1st/2nd round bid. > > When I debated, I debated at the Redlands tournament my senior year when I was extremely ill. I could barely navigate a flight of stairs. I could not physically lift a tub (Gordon carried them all, and I forgot my promise that I would carry them at the next tournament). Frankly, I was miserable the whole weekend and likely a severe infestation risk. > > When confronted about this question "why are you debating?" by Sherry Hall and Rebecca Tushnet, I remember weakly replying "that our bid was not high enough." A rationale that made sense at age 20, an insane rationale at age 36. > > I think debaters, coaches, and rankers of bids should be especially cognizant of the way certain tournaments are viewed on the bid sheets. I would encourage all to take a reasonable perspective of the situation, especially if estimates (like the one given at our university) that 30% of the population could get the swine flu this season. Let's cut some people some slack if they don't have Kentucky or another tournament on their bid sheet that is a "must attend" tournament for a bid sheet. > > Take care of your health. Be reasonable about the situation. It's a debate tournament, you'll have more down the road. > > RG > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > > > _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate _______________________________________________ CEDA-L mailing list CEDA-L at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/ceda-l From dave at miami.edu Sun Sep 20 19:29:51 2009 From: dave at miami.edu (Steinberg, David L) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:29:51 -0400 Subject: [CEDA-L] unofficial calendar Message-ID: The unofficial calendar can be accessed at http://debate.miami.edu/calendar/ David L. Steinberg Director of Debate, Lecturer in Communication Studies University of Miami PO Box 248127 Coral Gables, FL 33124 FLW 3015 305-284-5553 204-385-5216 (fax) dave at miami.edu http://debate.miami.edu/ From dave at miami.edu Sun Sep 20 20:12:29 2009 From: dave at miami.edu (Steinberg, David L) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:12:29 -0400 Subject: [CEDA-L] FW: [eDebate] Sick Debaters, Travel, and Bid Applications In-Reply-To: References: <4AB2F001.4060301@wfu.edu> , <417507f50909201045q3945c3c2qa1fc5b139791e979@mail.gmail.com>, Message-ID: 1. My rant is not a criticism of Joe Bellon and the GSU folks who provide phenomenal service to the debate community through their willingness to host tournaments (2 a year forever..), and do their best to give us what we ask for. I do not even mean to criticize the Krispy Kreme donuts, which are clearly a guilty pleasure.... Dinner tonight was EXCELLENT!!! Still tired, but much happier than this morning. Tasty home style food with healthy and guilty choices. Love the ATL and appreciate Joe and his crew despite the brutal nature of the tournament experience, its not their fault. 2. Talked today to a friend who no longer coaches debate. He mocked me about reading my post this morning as he enjoyed his breakfast and morning paper with his family at home. 3. Still, though, it will be at least 11:00 pm before we get back to the hotel. Thats a 17 hour day. And tomorrow morning rounds will be announced at 7:30 am (4:30 am west coast time). 4. I think that in incremental ways, we as a community have begun to take steps toward a more humane tournament life. Few 8 round tournaments are left, there is a move toward defining best practices as 6 prelim rounds, some shift in debate culture to shortening decision time post debate has occured at least during prelims, and there is more conversation and awareness of health and quality of life issues. 5. I think I like Sue's suggestions, but not sure how to proceed. Maybe CEDA sanctioning should be more strictly controlled (no points to tournaments that do not offer 12 hours from completion of rounds to announcement of next days rounds, or only 6 rounds, or...???) Maybe the marketplace will solve, if we have a variety of tournament choices, that would be good. How about a 5K morning walk/run on Saturday? Basketball, touch football or soccer during the tournament? A hypnotist to guide deep breathing relaxation/meditation sessions between rounds.... a masseuse... looking for another donut..... dave ________________________________ From: Sue Peterson [bk2nocal at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 1:45 PM To: Steinberg, David L; edebate at ndtceda.com Subject: Re: [eDebate] Sick Debaters, Travel, and Bid Applications All of this is true of 90% or more of us in the debate community this weekend...I appreciate your willingness to so bluntly describe it and question it. A bold move on your part...I would be interested in discussing solutions - here is what I can think of: 1) shorten times of speeches for debates - go back to the 8-3-5 model of old CEDA and high school debate - it seems like a small change, but over the course of a weekend, it cuts out quite a bit of time. 2) shorten prep times. in this age of electronic research, files, etc. it seems to me that many of the reasons that made longer prep times necessary in the past (having to go through paper files, needing to hand write so much of your speech, etc.) are no longer there and with the disclosure going on through caselists, etc. rarely are we surprised by what other teams say in a round. Again, seems like a small change - 10 to 8 minutes or 7 minutes - but equally impacts both teams and over the course of a weekend saves quite a bit of time. 3) shorten decision-times. this topic seems like it has been hashed, rehashed and rehashed again. and maybe it isn't as big of a problem anymore (I wasn't around much last year, so maybe people got the message and decisions are now shorter?), but it seems to me that really causes a lot of the stretching in tournament times, esp on elim days. 4) stricter start times. I will admit that I am guilty of this - in fact, we just started a round 15 minutes late and both teams had coaches in talking to them (one of whom should have been judging in a different round) right up until the judges kicked us out of the room. most of us are probably guilty of not leaving a room while coaching until someone kicks us out, even when we have a ballot for a different round. This seems like a community norm - I'm not sure how to change it other than talking forfeits - which I would hate to do (why punish the team for the coaches problems), but competitively speaking it may force people to do more to honor the start times. 5) more pre-sets. This one I don't really like because it can really skew a tournament. But, it is an option, so I thought I would list it. It is especially time-consuming (in combination with some of the above this may become unnecessary - I think length of pairing rounds is often negatively effected by decision time, start delays, etc.). 6) less rounds. We've already made the change at Wake (who took a lot of heat for it, but took the risk and went ahead and did it - seems that people are still going), maybe all of our tournaments need to be six round tournaments? Less elims? Maybe we need to break less teams? I think this would be sad, but it may be necessary. 7) less tournaments and four day schedules. I can see a world where we value the tournament experience for quality not quantity. Right now, my schedule has six tournaments on it between September and November - that is two tournaments per month...and the Spring is about the same or worse between January and March. We have a very compact schedule (we really only debate six months of the year, but many of us go to more than 12 tournaments during that time). Maybe we need to have less tournaments with more rounds and go over four days. If missing school is an argument, we miss as much school to leave on Fridays or return on Mondays for these myriad of tournaments. We could go to six tournaments instead of twelve and start on Friday and finish on Monday, with shorter days during that duration of each tournament. This seems better for sleep, eating and immune systems. 8) shorter season. Maybe we need to do the reverse. Maybe we should only debate during the Spring semester - start in January - push the national tournaments back to April or early May and fit it all in. We could have two fall tournaments as "warm-ups" (like exhibition games) on the topic or something, but it seems to me we are literally the ONLY competitive activity in college that competes during both semesters for a large part of both of those semesters. How do sports etc get it done? They compete every weekend for a full semester and then have their national tournaments/games. It would make for a rough Spring semester, but a nice, open Fall semester...It would allow students to load up units in the fall and take a lighter schedule in the Spring...It may even allow those with releases to use more in the Spring and have even a lighter load during that semester. Or we could do it in the fall and have the National tournaments during the month of January/early February... I don't know if any of these are good ideas, but I will offer them as a discussion starting point. They are just things I've thought up as ideas - I don't even like all of them necessarily. But, I think we are realizing that something may need to change... --Sue Sue Peterson, Director of Speech and Debate at CSU Chico sepeterson at csuchico.edu 530-898-4771 Please help me raise money for the Ronald McDonald House in Stanford, where me and my family spent more than four months during the last year! http://www.firstgiving.com/suepeterson On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Steinberg, David L > wrote: a rant! I am sitting in a classroom at Georgia State University at 7:15 am, my head pounding. We left the hotel at 6:30. Yesterday we began a little later, leaving at 7:00. Cruel trick to start the second day earlier than the first. And we live in this time zone. For west coast people, it is 4:00 am. I sacrificed my typical oatmeal and fruit breakfast for more sleep, a sugary donut instead. After a long day with short breaks filled with round preparation (shoveled in some fast food during the 45 minutes we had for lunch) we completed our day and left the tournament around 8:45 pm, excellent by debate standards. Selfishly, I took the team for a sit down meal, and then foolessly indulged in watching some of the Auburn football game on TV. Self-indulgent, but it was Saturday night! A mistake. One beer with dinner. I feel like I have smoked a carton of cigarettes (and I quit 12 years ago). Another donut. Sleep deprivation, poor food, cigarette smoke, no exercise. OK, the high levels of mental/psychological stress reasonably go with the territory, but the physical stress is mostly unnecessary, its a choice we make in designing our activity. And our students need to return to class and schoolwork on Monday or Tuesday, with substantially more pressure than other students who have not missed classes or sacrificed schoolwork time for debate work. Are we concerned about the health of our participants? Surprised when our immune systems do not fight off the flu? I do not think so. David L. Steinberg Director of Debate, Lecturer in Communication Studies University of Miami PO Box 248127 Coral Gables, FL 33124 FLW 3015 305-284-5553 204-385-5216 (fax) dave at miami.edu http://debate.miami.edu/ ________________________________________ From: ceda-l-bounces at www.ndtceda.com [ceda-l-bounces at www.ndtceda.com] On Behalf Of Darren Elliott [delliott at KCKCC.EDU] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:03 PM To: JP Lacy; Galloway, Ryan W. Cc: edebate at ndtceda.com; ceda-l at ndtceda.com Subject: Re: [CEDA-L] [eDebate] Sick Debaters, Travel, and Bid Applications Don't risk a Forced Choice by Administrators of Non-Competition for others and yourself down the road. This issue is larger than you might think. I sat in on a legislative session this week where illness and N1H1 was a hot topic. University AD's and Officials are contacting each other (and being directed to) and putting in place contingency plans should an outbreak occur. The contingency plan in KS would appear to be to cancel games, tournaments, and events to prevent outbreaks. I'm sure KS is not the only State, and the MIAA, NAIA, and NCAA Big 12 are not the only conferences with this in mind. No doubt this will trickle down to non-athletic events if Colleges and Universities shut their doors to prevent the sickness from getting out. Not to sound alarm bells, but its high on the priority list of those making decisions above all of us. Dont risk not only the health of yourself and others, but entire tournaments being shut down. I think Sarah put it best, we should be more kind to ourselves and those around us than we have been in the past. chief Darren Elliott Director of Debate and Forensics Kansas City Kansas Community College ________________________________________ From: edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com [edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com] On Behalf Of JP Lacy [lacyjp at wfu.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:27 PM To: Galloway, Ryan W. Cc: edebate at ndtceda.com Subject: Re: [eDebate] Sick Debaters, Travel, and Bid Applications Wake misses competing at our tournament every year. So does every other squad that hosts a "major" national tournament. It is hard for debaters to give up an opportunity to compete. Many would give an organ to clear at a tournament. We need to get better at showing people that debate isn't worth hurting themselves or others over. I agree with Ryan that we should "cut people some slack" if they miss a tournament due to illness, injury or other contingencies. After all, hosting schools get that "slack" every year. -- JP Galloway, Ryan W. wrote: > I think Sam and Sue raise a good point. I would like to point out the counter-vailing tendency among debaters however, especially those that might be in contention for a 1st/2nd round bid. > > When I debated, I debated at the Redlands tournament my senior year when I was extremely ill. I could barely navigate a flight of stairs. I could not physically lift a tub (Gordon carried them all, and I forgot my promise that I would carry them at the next tournament). Frankly, I was miserable the whole weekend and likely a severe infestation risk. > > When confronted about this question "why are you debating?" by Sherry Hall and Rebecca Tushnet, I remember weakly replying "that our bid was not high enough." A rationale that made sense at age 20, an insane rationale at age 36. > > I think debaters, coaches, and rankers of bids should be especially cognizant of the way certain tournaments are viewed on the bid sheets. I would encourage all to take a reasonable perspective of the situation, especially if estimates (like the one given at our university) that 30% of the population could get the swine flu this season. Let's cut some people some slack if they don't have Kentucky or another tournament on their bid sheet that is a "must attend" tournament for a bid sheet. > > Take care of your health. Be reasonable about the situation. It's a debate tournament, you'll have more down the road. > > RG > > _______________________________________________ > eDebate mailing list > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate > > > _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate _______________________________________________ CEDA-L mailing list CEDA-L at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/ceda-l _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate From Jacob.Thompson at unlv.edu Mon Sep 21 17:26:13 2009 From: Jacob.Thompson at unlv.edu (Jacob.Thompson at unlv.edu) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:26:13 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] Make UNLV Hotel reservations now! Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have a new person in charge of rooms and that is causing some delays. At this point, I think we will be able to accommodate the first three teams from all schools that want to attend. I am not as confident about 4th and 5th teams. We will let you know as soon as we can. Sherry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/ceda-l/attachments/20090927/60620fe4/attachment.htm From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Mon Sep 28 13:08:09 2009 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:08:09 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] Tournament invitation hosted by George Mason Univers Message-ID: <223BD3B832EE48B5A93C51857C939E53@AD.FULLERTON.EDU> Name:Patriot Debates @ George Mason University Starts:1/15/2010 Ends:1/17/2010 Hosted by: George Mason Univers Contact: wdecker Address: 4400 University Dr Phone: 703-993-1093 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True Divisions Offered: with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Not specified Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email. From lacyjp at wfu.edu Mon Sep 28 21:14:16 2009 From: lacyjp at wfu.edu (JP Lacy) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:14:16 -0400 Subject: [CEDA-L] 2009 Franklin R. Shirley Classic Invitation Message-ID: <4AC16D78.4080500@wfu.edu> The Shirley is my favorite tournament of all time. To me, it's at least as important as any family holiday. This year is especially important, as we'll be remembering the person who taught me almost everything I know about debate, Ross Smith. I'll hope you'll be able to join us for what looks to be a fantastic weekend of debating, socializing & remembering! As usual, the invitation is subject to reasonable changes. Debateresults should be open for entries if I did everything correctly -- JP Lacy lacyjp at wfu.edu *2009 Shirley Invitation Basics* Intercollegiate policy debate programs are invited to enter two teams in the 2009 Franklin R. Shirley Classic, November 21-23, 2009, hosted by Wake Forest University. Schools may enter more than two teams subject to the conditions listed below. This year's Shirley will be held in concurrence with a Remembrance commemorating the life and career of Ross Kennedy Smith, which take place Saturday evening, November 21st. *New This Year* 6 Prelims. (Not completely new.) 3 prelims followed by the Ross Remembrance Saturday. 3 prelims, & first elim Sunday. 4 elims Monday. * Ross Kennedy Smith Remembrance* We are planning a Remembrance to commemorate the life and career of Ross Smith, Wake Forest's long time Debate Coach & Director of Debate, on Saturday, November 21st. All family, friends, alumni & the debate community are invited. A reception featuring light appetizers and refreshments will begin at 6 pm with the main program beginning at 7 pm. A gathering of friends will follow at 10 pm at the Winston-Salem Marriott. *Same As Always* 1. Friendly, efficient & fun. 2. Entry process & qualifications. 3. Hospitality. There will be coffee, bagels & Krispy Kreme. There will be a Survivor's Party Monday night. 4. Scouting. 5. Frosh/Soph breakout. Any team where both partners have not completed two full years of college policy debate is eligible. We will clear at least to quarters. 6. Strict time limits for judge decisions in elims as well as prelims. Time allotted for post round discussion. We run on time. *Entries* Entries of two teams per school will be accepted until midnight October 28 on a first come, first served basis until we have reached our 150 team limit (this limit is necessary due to classroom and other facility limitations). Schools may apply for more teams by adding them to the waitlist subject to the following: As space permits, we will take additional teams, up to a total of four teams per school, as long as ALL THREE OR FOUR teams have cleared to elims in TWO varsity tournaments this fall. If both debaters on the team EITHER cleared twice this fall OR qualified for NDT in the past OR reached elimination rounds at CEDA Nationals in the past, the team is considered to have met the "cleared twice" requirement. No fourth team from a school will be accepted until all eligible third teams from other schools have been accepted. Waivers of the entry rules may be granted at the discretion of the WFU coaching staff. *Judging* Each school must provide 3 rounds of prelim judging for each of their first two teams and 4 rounds of judging for each additional team. As a normative rule, all coaches are expected to make themselves available for at least some judging and will be on the pref sheet. If you are hiring judging from outside of your school's staff/alumni, and the tournament cannot place your judges into the required number of rounds, the tournament reserves the right to: 1) adjust the judging obligations of your other judges (adding rounds of commitment to those of your judges who are easier to place), and/or 2) charge your school $30.00 per round of unmet obligation. Prelim rounds must be decided within two hours and forty-five minutes of the posted start time of the debate. The tab room will flip a coin to determine the winner when the judge cannot decide in time. Elim rounds must be decided within three hours of the posted/announced start time of the debate. The tab room will flip a coin to determine the winner when the judge cannot decide in time. Judges must vote for one and only one team in each debate and must assign speaker points and ranks in prelim rounds Fifteen minutes minimum will be allocated to post round discussion of the decision, but we must ask that the post-round cease 15 minutes after the decision deadline so debaters can move on to their next debate with adequate and fair time. *Speaker Points* A 100 point scale will be used. We'll share a graph showing the distribution of points from last year. *Caselist & Scouting* Participating teams and schools are expected to contribute to http://opencaselist.wikispaces.com and should provide their most recent affirmative and negative information by the Tuesday before the tournament at latest. Teams and schools should cooperate with Wake Forest students and staff assigned to gather material. *Audio & Video Recording* All rounds (defined as the speeches and judge critiques) are open to the public and may be electronically recorded for private educational use by any tournament participants (registered coaches, debaters and helpers, and Wake Forest tournament staff) only. Public distribution of such recordings is expressly prohibited unless prior written consent of all people on the recording is obtained and unless prior written consent of Wake Forest University is obtained. Private sharing for educational use is permitted. *Tabulation & Pairing* We will use an ordinal MPJ system run on STA. Rounds one and two preset. The other 4 prelims individually power paired hi-low within brackets. Top 32 teams clear on basis of adjusted points, opp wins, total points, twice adjusted points, ranks, random number. Brackets broken in elims. Side equalization procedure used for elims. *Frosh/Soph Breakout* Teams comprised of two debaters both of whom are still in their first or second year of debate who do not clear into the doubles are eligible to clear into the Frosh/Soph breakout. We will clear at least 8 teams. Suggestions for a name for this division are more than appreciated. * Fees* Tournament fees are $70.00 per person (debaters, coaches, judges, scouts.) This is an increase from previous years necessary to maintain the type of amenities we have provided in the past. We don't anticipate any profit from the event. *Tournament Hotel* We are very excited to be back downtown this year. This is a great property. Downtown eateries have experienced major growth recently, with a good deal of late night options available. The Winston-Salem Marriot, 425 North Cherry Street, Winston-Salem, NC 27101. 336 725 3500 Rate: $109.00 per night plus taxes and fees. All elims will be held here. Make reservations online at http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/intmc?groupCode=scdscda&app=resvlink&fromDate=11/19/09&toDate=11/24/09 The Sundance, 3050 University Parkway, Winston-Salem, NC 27105 (336-723-2911) Rate: $??? per room per night plus taxes and fees Includes wireless internet, parking, and continental breakfast daily. *Rental Vans* For vans of all sizes, ask for the Wake Forest Debate rate at Triangle, http://www.trianglerentacar.com/ *Hospitality* Krispy Kreme, coffee, juice, bagels in the mornings. Water, sodas, aspirin, snacks throughout. Lunch on Saturday and Sunday. Food Sunday night, plus the usual Survivors Party^(TM) on Monday night after the start of the final round. *Conduc*t All participants debate at the invitation of Wake Forest University according to its tournament rules as well as any rules of their sponsoring institutions. We abide by all rules and norms of CEDA and the AFA, including but not limited to CEDA's sexual harassment policy. *Miscellaneous Important Stuff *Topic: the 2009-2010 CEDA resolution, Time limits: 9-3-6, Judges should post their judge philosophy at debateresults.com, Judges should be sure all conflicts of interest are noted at debateresults.com, *Schedule -- To follow* Registration Friday 6-9 pm at the Marriott, round 1& 2 pairings released at 9 pm. Saturday: 3 prelims, followed by the Ross Remembrance event Sunday: 3 prelims & 1st elim Monday: 4 elims -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/ceda-l/attachments/20090928/747eb3d3/attachment.htm From Jacob.Thompson at unlv.edu Wed Sep 30 00:46:04 2009 From: Jacob.Thompson at unlv.edu (Jacob.Thompson at unlv.edu) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:46:04 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] UNLV RR pairings rd 1 & 2 Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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