From stables at usc.edu Tue Jul 8 15:37:56 2008 From: stables at usc.edu (Gordon Stables) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:37:56 +0200 Subject: [CEDA-L] Fwd: CSUF, USC date change announcement Message-ID: An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Bruschke, Jon" Subject: CSUF, USC date change announcement Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:27:34 -0700 Size: 7541 Url: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/ceda-l/attachments/20080708/67b06577/attachment.eml From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Tue Jul 15 15:17:46 2008 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:17:46 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] Tournament invitation hosted by Pepperdine Message-ID: <0F7A0F59D581459CB1CC9029F27354D0@AD.FULLERTON.EDU> Name:Pepperdine Ray Buchanan Invitational Starts:10/17/2008 Ends:10/19/2008 Hosted by: Pepperdine Contact: Sarah Stone Watt Address: 24255 PCH, Malibu CA 90263 Phone: 310-506-6804 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): False Divisions Offered: Open Policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters JV Policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters Novice Policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email. From stables at usc.edu Wed Jul 16 16:02:00 2008 From: stables at usc.edu (Gordon Stables) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:02:00 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] CEDA newsletter - Call for announcements, news and tournament schedule Message-ID: <030801c8e787$310a50e0$931ef2a0$@edu> Greetings all. I hope you are enjoying a safe and healthy and summer. The impending topic announcement (the deadline for voting is almost here) reminds us all that the new season is almost upon us. In order to make the transition to a new year easier, CEDA has decided to produce a beginning of the year e-newsletter that will contain news, job announcements, updates on CEDA rules and policies and a comprehensive (and regionally organized) tournament calendar. To make this newsletter work we need your contributions. Please email me if you have any items that you would like included, such as: - Announcements about new faculty or staff for the 08-09 season - Upcoming job announcements - Call for papers - Graduate school information for 09-10 - Other matters of professional interest to our community And don't forget to check Dave Steinberg's incredibly helpful tournament calendar at If your tournament isn't listed there, but you still intend to host and earn CEDA points you should let us know ASAP. Even if a tournament is tentatively planned, we still want to list it so folks can consider their plans. We will make specific notations for any tournament that isn't 100% finalized (i.e., hotel contract not signed, date could move, etc.), but we still want to have all options listed. In our current economic climate and with skyrocketing travel costs we all need to do what we can to streamline our travel planning. Dave has done a tremendous volunteer service with this calendar and now we all need to work together to make our organizational calendar as comprehensive as possible. Thanks. Let me know if you have any questions. The e-newsletter will be produced in a few weeks and will be linked with content on the new CEDA site http://www.cedadebate.org/ Gordon CEDA 1st VP Gordon Stables, Ph.D. Director of Debate and Forensics Annenberg School for Communication University of Southern California Office: 213 740 2759 Fax: 213 740 3913 http://usctrojandebate.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/ceda-l/attachments/20080716/d46532e3/attachment.htm From stables at usc.edu Fri Jul 18 14:12:49 2008 From: stables at usc.edu (Gordon Stables) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:12:49 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] FW: [eDebate] CEDA Voting Results Message-ID: <001501c8e90a$4556a470$d003ed50$@edu> -----Original Message----- From: edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com [mailto:edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Jarman Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:44 AM To: eDebate eDebate Subject: [eDebate] CEDA Voting Results A full break down of the results is available at www.cedadebate.org Short version: resolution 2A wins. Amendment 1 & 2 pass. Amendment 3 fails. Jeff _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate From delliott at kckcc.edu Mon Jul 21 03:18:38 2008 From: delliott at kckcc.edu (Darren Elliott) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:18:38 -0500 Subject: [CEDA-L] Failure of Conferences Proposal--a redux Message-ID: <4884000E0200009300017621@mymail.kckcc.edu> To paraphrase Robert Fulghum, ?All I really need to know about computer mediated communication, I learned on edebate?. I wanted to take a moment (between umpiring softball tournaments, having a family vacation, and researching the HS and College Topic) to take a second shot at posting my thoughts on conferences, the failed proposal, and the organizational leadership. Since my post the other day, responding to Malcolm, 2 people I consider friends and highly respect helped me view my email through their eyes. Edebate is indeed a horrible medium at times, and all computer mediated communication comes with risks of misinterpretation. Am I frustrated that the conference proposal failed? Obviously. But the two emails I received made me realize that my frustration is just as much aimed at where we can be more effective leaders as it is at the failure of the amendment. I wont publicly name these 2 friends here. They chose private communication and I respect that. One I have known since my first college tournament and if they are anything, it's passionate about this activity. But I want to thank them for helping me hopefully remember to see things through different eyes. If we, I, can be anything, I hope it's reflexive. So let me answer some concerns the tenor of my email may have raised: First, my opinion about the conference proposal was not meant to chastise either those who voted no or those choosing not to vote. It's primary focus was to share frustration. As much as I want to disagree with Jeff about some not caring about the business of the organization?I want to think everyone cares as deeply as I do?I do have to admit that when 35% do not vote at all, they perhaps see no value in voting. Perhaps part of our organizational mission should be to provide more value. Part of our job should be to encourage voting. I will try and embrace that. As for those who voted no, I will admit I was initially against conferences. But I heard the debate play out for an hour at NCA in Chicago. I came away convinced it was a good idea. There was very little opposition, more devil's advocate playing. Then the proposal failed. We re-hashed the ideas. Upon the encouragement of myself and Gordon Stables, the proposal was resubmitted this summer. This time, no real debate at the business meeting. Some who claimed initial opposition came forward in support. Again it failed. Part of my frustration was what Malcolm conveyed. We are so talkative, yet so few counter arguments were made. It was thought by many of us leaving Dallas, it would pass this time. But when it didn't, frustration mounted. But now, one of my good friends helped illuminate some opposing reasons. Some of them had not been conveyed before. I certainly understand why those in opposition choose not to use edebate, ceda-l, etc. But I hope through honest, back-channel means if necessary, we can come to an understanding. The reasons elucidated were enlightening to me. It gives us common ground to start from. It changes how I see the proposal and how the organization should operate. Without this person taking the time and having the courage to email me, in their own admission with trepidation, we may have no common starting point. Second, I hope the joking reference to ?JED? was not seen as a Presidential Seal in code, uncovering the ?elite? or ?out? members of the ?cabal?. If you know my relationship with Jarman, we worked together, he served as a mentor for me, and I think he is one of the best coaches in the country. But we often disagree on issues. A lot. In the end we both work hard, I think, to make the organization better. But we disagree a lot. If you are familiar with the archives, you can see where Mike Davis and I have butted heads in the past. Mike has quickly become one of my favorite people in the activity. But he too will often quip at business meetings, that if him and I agree, it is scary. So my references to them agreeing with me,?out? the Knights Templar. But to put some humor in an otherwise frustrated post. It really was shocking the 3 of us would agree and yet it could not get a super majority to agree as well. But it was definitely meant in a joking manner. Third, my statement about agreeing with Jeff that many may not care about the business of the organization, was not intended to suggest that those voting ?no? did not care. It was a saddened admittance on my part that Jeff may be right and some folks don't care and choose not to vote. Again, perhaps we need to give them more to vote for. But as one of my friends pointed out, those voting ?no? probably care deeply and have valuable reasons they chose to vote no. Those reasons give me starting points again for common ground between the belief of some of the leadership that the system is broken, business meetings fail to make quorums, and we get stalled, and those who voted no who believe the system would become worse, that the SQ serves their needs, that we failed in the proposal by putting too much burden on the membership, that it was too punitive in nature, etc. We now have a place to work from. I sincerely hope that others who voted no can share their concerns with someone in the leadership. Fourth, I agree that checks and balances are a good thing. I believe that we should not be able to move too quickly when revamping constitutions. I would like to have seen this proposal go forward. It failed. Now we have to work with what we have. And I do believe that everyone who voted no, did so for a reason and probably one that directly impacted them, their institution, or their Region. I have no reason to think otherwise. So yea, I believe they cared about the running of the organization. Please do not misinterpret my feelings that when meetings are under-represented, that I think all those not in attendance do not care. There are plenty of reasons not to attend the meetings. Families, finances, travel fatigue, etc. But I am smart enough to know a lot of those folks still care. I guess that is why it is our job to figure out how to make things better, and perhaps more accessible. Again, we have a place to work from. Finally, I indicated in my email that we would begin working with the Executive Secretary to use his authority under the Constitution to present proposals aimed at revamping the Regional structure. I honestly believe that for the purpose of effectively running business meetings, that there does need to be some work done here. However, I do not think this is a decision that should be left solely to the Exec Secretary or the Executive Council. While you did elect us, our roles in this matter should be formative. In the end, suggestions, movement, and final decisions should have the consultation of those directly effected. It would be irresponsible for us to assume to know what is in the best interest of every program. For some schools, perhaps being in a huge Region is what helps them justify funding. For others, perhaps a smaller Region is best. We need to find out. And in the meantime we need to do our job and figure out how to make meetings effectively run with what we have, and perhaps go even farther in increasing accessibility. In conclusion, I hope that people can begin to feel more comfortable in sharing their thoughts with the leadership, even if in private if understandably fearing the nature of computer mediated communication. But edebate and ceda-l serve valuable purposes too. They demand of leadership a clarity of purpose, a willingness to be open about our intentions, and the wisdom to know that in the most frustrating moments, there will be common ground from which we can start to do a better job. Sometimes we just need our friends to remind us! Humbly, chief Darren Elliott Director of Debate and Forensics?KCKCC CEDA President From stables at usc.edu Fri Jul 25 12:40:26 2008 From: stables at usc.edu (Gordon Stables) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:40:26 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] Last call for materials for CEDA newsletter Message-ID: <00db01c8ee7d$85da5460$918efd20$@edu> Following up on my earlier note, I am close to finalizing the content for the inaugural CEDA e-newsletter. This will contain a variety of material related to the new season. I would ask that our members please take a moment and send me any of the following items: - Information about your college tournaments - If you are hosting, we need to know before the season starts. If you have already adding it to debateresults or Dave Steinberg's calendar - great. If you haven't published any material and you intend on hosting, please let me know . - New coaching announcements - Who has joined your staff in the last few months? - Upcoming calls/announcements - Will you be advertising a new job? Having graduate assistantships available? Do you have a new public program that you would to let people know about? Let me know if you have any questions. 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Starts:10/10/2008 Ends:10/12/2008 Hosted by: Santa Rosa Junior Co Contact: Address: 1501 Medocino Ave., Santa Rosa, CA, 95401 Phone: 707-838-2028 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True Divisions Offered: Open Policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters JR Policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters Novice Policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters Open Parli with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos Novice Parli with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email. From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Fri Jul 25 14:12:42 2008 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:12:42 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] Tournament invitation hosted by Northern Iowa (Univ.) Message-ID: <6D53BEF46F624BAE8C64FE9DBB13A739@AD.FULLERTON.EDU> Name:UNI Ulrich Season Opener Starts:9/20/2008 Ends:9/22/2008 Hosted by: Northern Iowa (Univ.) Contact: Cate Palczewski Address: Phone: 319-273-2714 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True Divisions Offered: Open with 8 prelims, expected to clear to: Doubles JV with 8 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos Novice with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email. From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Mon Jul 28 13:27:25 2008 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:27:25 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] Tournament invitation hosted by Kings College Message-ID: <1A0A3C7E389246C39B525DB83099A95E@AD.FULLERTON.EDU> Name:Connelly-Garvey Debate Tourament Starts:9/19/2008 Ends:9/21/2008 Hosted by: Kings College Contact: Mike Berry Address: Department of Theatre and Speech, King's College, Wilkes Barre PA 18711 Phone: 570.208.5900 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True Divisions Offered: Open with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters JV with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos Novice with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email. From stables at usc.edu Mon Jul 28 23:37:15 2008 From: stables at usc.edu (Gordon Stables) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:37:15 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] Ag - Topic Committee Resources available Message-ID: <009001c8f134$c7ffe990$57ffbcb0$@edu> Greetings all. As the first effort to migrate this CEDA Topic.com to the new CEDA website, we have organized all of the research produced in the process of writing this topic. In the next few months, the cedatopic.com site will be merged with the new CEDA site. The 09-10 topic process will all be conducted on the new site at topic.cedadebate.org/ Right now you can start using the new site and review the agricultural research and analysis directly at topic.cedadebate.org/ag_research Enjoy and let us know if you have any questions. 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URL: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/ceda-l/attachments/20080728/6c5c8b09/attachment.htm From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Wed Jul 30 03:39:29 2008 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:39:29 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] Tournament invitation hosted by Whitman College Message-ID: <93FFE95B04B146C0858DD367BFB72879@AD.FULLERTON.EDU> Name:WNPT-Whitman November Policy Tournament Starts:11/22/2008 Ends:11/23/2008 Hosted by: Whitman College Contact: Jim Hanson Address: Phone: 509-527-5499 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True Divisions Offered: Open with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters Junior with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Semis Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email. From jbruschke at fullerton.edu Wed Jul 30 03:42:01 2008 From: jbruschke at fullerton.edu (jbruschke at fullerton.edu) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:42:01 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] Tournament invitation hosted by Whitman College Message-ID: <589EA49670544AA890EFD8AFCB3DD632@AD.FULLERTON.EDU> Name:NW CEDA Champs Starts:2/28/2009 Ends:3/2/2009 Hosted by: Whitman College Contact: Jim Hanson Address: Phone: 509-527-5499 On-line entry allowed: True AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True Divisions Offered: Open with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament. If so, you will be notified by a separate email. From hansonjb at whitman.edu Wed Jul 30 03:58:22 2008 From: hansonjb at whitman.edu (Jim Hanson) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:58:22 -0700 Subject: [CEDA-L] nw ceda champs: be GOLDEN 10 Message-ID: <7FC94D8D2F8C4E3585138252301590AD@whitman.edu> we invite schools to submit a GOLDEN 10 team and judge bid to participate at the nw ceda championship. schools must be at least 700 miles from whitman college. (you submit after the wake forest tournament) --$600 is given to each of these teams/judges --no fees; you just debate and judge --free food (breakfast, lunch, and dinner) provided --free shuttle (pasco or walla walla airport) provided throughout the tournament --student and coach's party --all rounds occur in one, nice building--it is well setup --the tournament occurs feb 28-mar 2, 2009--the weekend after almost all districts; perfect as a nationals warmup or for teams trying to get a second round bid --great competition especially with this new golden 10 opportunity submissions accepted shortly after the wake forest tournament. jim hanson, glenn frappier, and derek buescher evaluate quality of teams and judges. 10 chosen. announcements occur in december, giving you lots of planning time. invitation with full details at: http://www.whitman.edu/rhetoric/collegetourn/54nwceda2009.htm jim :) hansonjb at whitman.edu _______________________________________________ eDebate mailing list eDebate at www.ndtceda.com http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate